Canada Post Back-To-Work Bill Stalled By Record NDP Filibuster

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First Posted: 06/24/11 06:38 PM ET Updated: 08/24/11 06:12 AM ET

THE CANADIAN PRESS — OTTAWA - Neither rain, nor snow, nor sleet, nor hail can keep postmen from their rounds but apparently hot air will do the trick.

Members of Parliament have already broken the record for non-stop debate on back-to-work legislation, and they could still be talking a week from now about the Harper government's attempt to re-start postal service.

Legislation that would end the lock-out of thousands of postal workers remains tied in procedural knots as the NDP filibusters what it considers a Draconian bill that tramples the rights of organized labour.

Both the NDP and Conservative government say they're willing to discuss amendments to the legislation that might yet break the parliamentary impasse. But there was little evidence of any progress on that front Friday.

After tying up the Commons in procedural wrangling most of Thursday, debate on the actual bill barely got started late that night before it was cut short by NDP Leader Jack Layton. He moved a motion to delay debate for six months.

With every one of the NDP's 103 MPs determined to speak to their leader's motion and use up all their allotted time, bleary-eyed parliamentarians continued to debate the motion throughout the night and all day Friday.

At a rate of about four speakers per hour, the government calculated Layton's motion should eventually come to a vote at some point after midnight, finally allowing debate on the legislation to resume early Saturday.

With luck, a second reading vote would take place on Sunday or early Monday.

But there are still plenty of legislative hoops the bill must jump through: clause by clause examination and consideration of amendments by the Commons sitting as "committee of the whole," report stage, and third reading, all before it can be sent on to the Tory-controlled Senate for approval.

If New Democrats insist on taking the maximum time allowed each MP at each stage, they could drag out debate until next weekend.

According to the government, the old record for debating back-to-work legislation was 27.5 hours, set in 1989.

"There's still no postal delivery in Canada right now," said Labour Minister Lisa Raitt, laying the blame squarely on the NDP.

"We know that small businesses want it to happen. We know that charities are waiting for it to start again. We know that residents know what's going on here and they want this bill to pass.

"And our concern is, quite frankly, we're still in a situation where the bill isn't even close to being passed."

Raitt said the government has a "strong mandate" to force an end to the postal dispute. And she said Tory MPs "are here to sit until the legislation passes so that Canadians can get their mail, so that the economy can continue to recover."

Layton insisted his party also wants to get the mail moving again but not if it means passing the legislation as is. He said the NDP — which strenuously objects to provisions that would impose a wage hike lower than Canada Post's last offer and set stringent arbitration guidelines — has drafted amendments.

"Literally, as we speak, there are proposals being put together and being offered to the government," he told reporters as he briefly celebrated St-Jean-Baptiste Day in Gatineau, Que., before returning to his seat in the Commons.

"We think there are real problems with this legislation. On the other hand, we want to get the padlocks off the doors that (Prime Minister) Stephen Harper put on the postal service and we're looking for solutions here."

Raitt said she's had discussions with NDP labour critic Yvon Godin but, as of shortly after noon Friday, had seen no concrete proposals from the NDP for breaking the parliamentary impasse.

"We had general discussions about principles, really ... and it didn't amount to anything."

Liberal Leader Bob Rae blamed both the government and NDP for playing to their respective voting bases and creating a needless impasse.

"What we're seeing is a classic case of shambolic behaviour by two ideological parties, the Conservatives and the NDP," Rae said, explaining that shambolic "means ritual pawing of the ground that is actually a sham."

He said a compromise — wherein postal workers would "return to work, no strikes, no lockouts" and both sides would commit to "less constricted" mediation and arbitration — should have been possible. Instead, the Conservatives' "sledgehammer has found the perfect rock" in the NDP.

The bill was introduced Monday after Canada Post locked out workers following a series of rotating strikes, which began June 3. Talks between Canada Post and the union collapsed late Wednesday.


Joan Bryden, The Canadian Press

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05:35 PM on 06/25/2011
Is Layton thanking the Fallen Soldier for his right to filibuster?

I'm just curious.
05:19 PM on 06/25/2011
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/06/25/canadian-soldier-dies-in-afghanistan_n_884580.html

Please go here and pay your respects.

Without these Warriors we have nothing.
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03:49 PM on 06/25/2011
like the post, politics needs a reality check. a filibuster is a stalling engine. everyone knows snail mail volume will fall as it has since the internet. junk mail is not sustainable and wastes hours of time putting canadians in debt with silly offers.
why not look to Germany and Japan? Both partially privatized their post offices to operate as well as a bank for clients. makes sense with secure buildings all over the country, even in small hamlets.
Japan Post, now a bank as well, became the world's largest financial institution. Google it. As well it is Japan's largest employer and promotes savings accounts that help quell householder debt issues.
German Post, now a bank as well, has become the world's largest logistics group. For those who don't know logistics, it's things like shipping routes, timetables to optimize cost and benefit for moving everything from mail to commuters to cargo. It is also a huge employer in Germany, and why not let the gov in on a piece of the 'bankster' financial Bail out threat syndrome threatening pensions and health care?
Why not restructure Canada Post to be a solid bank with minority stake held by the gov? Where is the vision for the strike solution?
NDP! Promote a Canada Post Bank platform now. If a worker can postmark a letter and fill our a registered mail tracking form they can surely learn how to stamp a withdrawal and fill out a bank transfer form for clients.
04:03 PM on 06/25/2011
There are millions of Canadians who want the government to take care of them.

How else can you describe it?
03:14 PM on 06/25/2011
"Nearly one in three Canadians depends directly on government for a living and millions more are deep in the trough. It’s easy to grumble about the cost. But what would you do differently if you were finance minister?"

This just out today.

If Canadians don't think that we as a people are in trouble, reread the paragraph I quoted.

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PortlandZoo
Wait... what?
03:47 PM on 06/25/2011
link?
04:03 PM on 06/25/2011
One sec.............
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03:09 PM on 06/25/2011
When I manages a group of employees in three cities in Canada, my company gave me 4% of my salary bill as a figure to use in awarding pay raises. I divided that in ways that those who deserved more received more. The person who sat on his/her butt and went through the motions received a lower raise than the one who gave his/her best at every turn. That is called awards for merit. That is why we have gold, silver and bronze medals. Nowadays we have a society in which everyone receives a trophy. It ain't right! So no, I do not want to see postal workers get huge raises when they have done nothing to deserve them. Nor give them benefits because they feel they are entitled to them.
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03:10 PM on 06/25/2011
Should have been managed.
03:15 PM on 06/25/2011
Government workers are on a permanent vacation.

95 percent could never survive in the Private Sector where reward and punishment is the way.
04:36 PM on 06/25/2011
By that logic and grossly inaccurate stat, Soldiers, police officers, firefighters, coast guard members can't survive in the private sector as well then. Because obviously of their cushy government jobs
Jivan
Leap and the net will appear
02:52 PM on 06/25/2011
Will you guys please settle your strike? I have a business here in Florida taking care of people's homes while they are up North for the summer. I have a lot of Canadian customers who can't send me their checks, however, my bills keep needing to be paid. Help, please!
03:02 PM on 06/25/2011
LMAO. How many of those Canadians hate the USA?

80 percent? or maybe 90 percent.

Either way, Canadians by the millions go to a Country they pretend to despise.

The ignorance is plenty.

I'll be back in Siesta Key for October.

See you soon.
Jivan
Leap and the net will appear
03:14 PM on 06/25/2011
My business is in Sarasota! Siesta Beach #1!
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PortlandZoo
Wait... what?
03:50 PM on 06/25/2011
are you a citizen of any country?
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haselcheck
Had enuff...Get active....
12:24 PM on 06/25/2011
Reminds me as to how governments and politicians confiscate my wealth and redistribute it to their friends...
01:34 PM on 06/25/2011
Couldn't be said any better!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:06 PM on 06/25/2011
I work in the Private Sector as a small business owner.

I get no pension and no vacation time. I get no sick days and no paid holiday's.

I bankroll the lavish salaries and pensions that government workers receive.

I don't get a PENSION.

If I don't get a Pension than why should YOU?
12:13 PM on 06/25/2011
You should get a pension, too. That's what labour organizers have been trying to do. That's the battle that is being fought and lost right now. So, you will never have a pension and neither will public servants, nor (soon) will organized labour. Then who will keep the economy going?
12:20 PM on 06/25/2011
Buddy, how can any country pay out Pensions to everyone if they only work 25 years?

Do the math.

Invest your own money for your own retirement and quit living off the dole.

I get no Pension, either do you.

After all, I bankroll Government workers.
12:15 PM on 06/25/2011
How can a person take a Pension from the people who don't get one?
12:27 PM on 06/25/2011
Good question. The problem is that the people who collect pensions, or pay into pension funds, are and will be the people supporting small businesses. Wages in the public sector should be adjusted and pensions should be universalized. The wealth needs to be spread equally. Of course, this is not in keeping with the entrepreneurial spirit that supposedly drives this economy.
I guess another question to consider, a question that will be asked by the wealthy classes: Why should we support small businesses when they complete with our conglomerates?
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03:44 PM on 06/25/2011
Who will your customers be if old people are begging in the streets or living off the pitiful wages that their children and grandchildren will earn in your ideal system?

If you think of money as the blood that must circulate around the economic system, people like you are the ones who would tie a tourniquet tightly around the neck to deal with a bleeding hangnail.
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Cameron Hodge
"Liberal Elitist" ;)
11:16 AM on 06/25/2011
People are such dupes it's sad. I bet they think things like "weekends" and "living wages" exist because of the magic capitalism fairy.

This government and the corporate interests that paid for it have declared war on organized labor, an important step for the ruling class in ridding themselves of the pesky middle class..
12:17 PM on 06/25/2011
Big Difference between Government Unions and private sector Unions.

One has a representative at the table, and one doesn't.

Until the taxpayers can approve Government Union contracts, then none should be signed in the future.

The people who pay the damn pensions deserve to have input.

Until taxpayers are allowed to vote on contracts, then the corruption will continue.
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Cameron Hodge
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02:04 PM on 06/25/2011
Wow, what a suprising opinion from someone who considers Harper a socialist.

This government had back to work legislation ready for Air Canada while the company itself was still bragging that their service had not been interrupted.

Nope, their anti-worker agenda is clear. Modern Conservatism is about gutting the middle class and leaving our rulers to all out Corporate Feudalism.
01:44 PM on 06/25/2011
Well said, Cameron.
f/f
02:30 PM on 06/25/2011
It was so well said.

Government Unions are not workers.

They don't have any chance of ever being fired.

That's not a job. It's a permanent vacation.
10:29 AM on 06/25/2011
Jack Layton is going to need a break soon for a massage.
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Just keepin it real........
11:17 AM on 06/25/2011
But it's Harper who's gonna get the happy ending in this debate.
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Wait... what?
11:43 AM on 06/25/2011
when he retires, which will be sooner than later.
12:08 PM on 06/25/2011
Jack Layton is a pervert.

If I got caught with my pants down in a rub and tug I would go right to jail. Not become a millionaire.

Layton is all that's wrong with Canadian Politics.
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10:05 AM on 06/25/2011
Keep on going NDP. You are simply cutting into your Summer vacations, while at the same time achieving nothing. You will lose in the end.

One bright spot, you NDPers can charge more living and eating expenses on the taxpayer buck.
09:55 AM on 06/25/2011
If the NDP keeps on like this, their term as the official opposition will be a short one.
09:54 AM on 06/25/2011
Personally, I think both parties are in a pretty tough position here, but I think the Conservatives will probably win out. They have the majority, and they will have the votes when it comes up for it. I can't see them backing down to the NDP on their first major disagreement. That's not Harper's style, and his party follows him on that. However, that will likely play into the hands of the NDP in the future, since they'll continue to cast the Conservatives as a group of thugs who don't listen to other parties and trample the rights of workers in favour of big business.

On the other hand, the NDP are pretty much obligated as the leftist party to defend the interests of the UCPW, even though that might not be such a popular stance. It's unquestionably part of the NDPs ideology and mandate to defend collective bargaining rights and support workers against the interests of big business/government. On the other hand, most people see the postal workers as fairly spoiled. After all, they start at $24 per hour. For taking letters to people's houses, that's a damn good salary, plus they have full benefits, vacation time, and mandatory raises. Oh, and they can retire with full pensions after 30 years of service. People look at that and say the UCPW doesn't have anything to complain about and they should be happy to receive such a generous amount of money for work that basically anyone can do.
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11:04 AM on 06/25/2011
"After all, they start at $24 per hour. For taking letters to people's houses, that's a damn good salary, plus they have full benefits, vacation time, and mandatory raises."

And that's what the strike was about. The Corporation wanted new hires to start at $18 an hour. At a time when the price of food is climbing steadily and no one on minimum wage can even afford an apartment, businesses have been forcing wages lower and lower. When Safeway pulled this stunt about 10 years ago and the union accepted it, they promptly began giving the better paid long-time workers worse and worse hours to force them to quit. Many stores will start cutting hours of employees as soon as they've reached the 2nd or 3rd scheduled raise, even the very good employees that the customers ask for and that have talents that could increase business.
01:54 PM on 06/25/2011
I don't think $18 per hour is an unreasonable salary for a letter carrier.
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09:47 AM on 06/25/2011
I am disappointed that Mr. Rae seems to feel that taking on the NDP is more important than protecting collective bargaining rights of Canadians, and that tells me that the Liberal Party still doesn't 'get' what happened in the last election.

The NDP has essentially no other option than to fight those parts of the bill which will hurt their constituents and will undercut the rights of all Canadian workers. Even though they may not even win the tiniest of victories, the NDP still must fight this battle (and the Liberals surely should be with them on this) - a fight is not solely about winning.

In this case, it is about who is willing to stand up for a principle, and what those principles are.
11:43 AM on 06/25/2011
I had mixed feelings about the demise of the Liberal party after the last election. Not any longer. Good riddance.
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11:58 AM on 06/25/2011
I hear you. It's a sad point in Canada's history, but I beleive that - if we can weather this next four years - the political landscape will improve.
08:45 AM on 06/25/2011
Conservatives love to tell us that paper mail isn't essential - there are numerous ways to get around it. This is also the best argument for letting the collective bargaining process be left to itself. Instead - as soon as Canada Post claimed they lost money the government was right at their side.

Harper has a way of twisting issues so that he appears to be on the moral side. I call it picking low-hanging fruit. Crime, the long gun registry, supporting the troops and the Canada Post dispute all seem pretty clear cut - on the surface. When one looks deeper into the postal situation it is plain that he is telling Canadians (especially those that are represented by unions) that he won't support them trying to protect their standard of living. Much the same path that the US was put on by Reagan - and we can all see how well that turned out. The best part is that it will be wrapped in the moral high ground of doing what's best for the Canadian economy.

If Canada Post didn't have big brother on its side, the negotiations would be more effective and there may have never been a strike.
01:17 PM on 06/25/2011
"When one looks deeper into the postal situation it is plain that he is telling Canadians (especiall­y those that are represente­d by unions) that he won't support them trying to protect their standard of living."

And by extension, Harper is telling all working Canadians that "he won't support them trying to protect their standard of living."

This will soon manifest itself in the inevitable conservative attack on social services in Canada. Stay tuned.