Norway Bombing, Shooting: Anders Behring Breivik Unlikely To Be Found Insane Says Panel Head

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First Posted: 07/31/11 12:22 PM ET Updated: 09/30/11 06:12 AM ET

OSLO - It's unlikely that the right-wing extremist who admitted killing dozens in Norway last week will be declared legally insane because he appears to have been in control of his actions, the head of the panel that will review his psychiatric evaluation told The Associated Press.

The decision on Anders Behring Breivik's mental state will determine whether he can be held criminally liable and punished with a prison sentence or sent to a psychiatric ward for treatment.

The July 22 attacks were so carefully planned and executed that it would be difficult to argue they were the work of a delusional madman, said Dr. Tarjei Rygnestad, who heads the Norwegian Board of Forensic Medicine.

In Norway, an insanity defence requires that a defendant be in a state of psychosis while committing the crime with which he or she is charged. That means the defendant has lost contact with reality to the point that he's no longer in control of his own actions.

"It's not very likely he was psychotic," Rygnestad told the AP.

The forensic board must review and approve the examination by two court-appointed psychiatrists before the report goes to the judge hearing the case. The judge will then decide whether Breivik can be held criminally liable.

Rygnestad told the AP a psychotic person can only perform simple tasks. Even driving from downtown Oslo to the lake northwest of the capital, where Breivik opened fire at a political youth camp, would be too complicated.

"If you have voices in your head telling you to do this and that, it will disturb everything, and driving a car is very complex," Rygnestad said.

"How he prepared" for the rampage -- meticulously acquiring the materials and skills he needed to carry out his attack while maintaining silence to avoid detection -- argues against psychosis, Rygnestad added.

By his own account, the 32-year-old Norwegian spent years plotting the attack. On July 22, he set off a car bomb that killed eight people in downtown Oslo's government district, then drove north to a youth camp on Utoya, a small lake island set amid a quiet countryside of pines and spruces.

There, he spent 90 minutes executing 69 people, mostly teenage members of the youth wing of Norway's governing Labor Party.

In a 1,500-page manifesto released just before the attacks, Breivik describes his two-pronged attack as the opening salvos of a new crusade that, by 2083, will purge Europe of Muslims and the "cultural Marxists" he complains are letting them have the run of the continent.

Breivik, who is being held pending trial, has admitted to the facts of the case, but denies criminal guilt because he believes the massacre was necessary to save Norway and Europe, his defence attorney Geir Lippestad said, hinting at a possible insanity defence.

"This whole case has indicated that he's insane," Lippestad told reporters last week.

Lippestad did not return calls over the weekend seeking reaction to Rygnestad's comments.

If tried and convicted of terrorism, Breivik will face up to 21 years in prison or an alternative custody arrangement that could keep him behind bars indefinitely.

If he is declared insane, a judge could order him institutionalized in a psychiatric ward only so long as he is deemed mentally ill, though Norway does have provisions for keeping dangerous, but no longer insane, people in custody even after they're discharged from the hospital.

Judging by his manifesto, it's not likely that Breivik would want to pursue an insanity defence if it were up to him. He anticipates that, after his attack, he will be labeled "psycho," ''maniac" and "insane."

"I have an extremely strong psyche (stronger than anyone I have ever known)," he wrote.

Two Norwegian psychiatrists selected by the court this week are set to complete their evaluation of Breivik by Nov. 1.

To prove insanity, most American courts require that the defendant be possessed by an "irresistible impulse" to commit the alleged crime -- a mental illness that prevented the defendant from controlling his or her actions.

Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people when he set off a car bomb, similar in many ways to Breivik's, that tore through the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995.

"Timothy thought he was starting a revolution, too," said Dr. Seymour L. Halleck, a forensic psychiatrist who examined McVeigh to determine whether he was competent to stand trial.

To carry out such an attack, "you need a certain kind of competency and determination -- and some need to make a mark on the world," Halleck said. "There was nothing we found psychotic about Timothy McVeigh."

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01:42 PM on 07/31/2011
MSM Ignores How Oslo Shooter’s Own Manifesto Completely Destroys “Christian Conservati­ve” Label
Posted by Ezra Dulis
http://big­journalism­.com/eduli­s/2011/07/­27/msm-ign­ores-how-o­slo-shoote­rs-own-man­ifesto-com­pletely-de­stroys-chr­istian-con­servative-­label/

Anders Behring Breivik’s manifesto, penned before his horrific mass murder in Oslo, contains 1,500 full pages of text, yet the New York Times has not asked readers to pore over it and help them find informatio­n relevant to their coverage of his terrorist attack. The Huffington Post has not posted a blog advertisin­g “LIVE UPDATES” from those studying the writings’ minutiae. Neither has the Guardian, MSNBC, ABC News, Yahoo! News, nor has the Washington Times created a Twitter account to tweet live micro-upda­tes of research on this document. What documents did prompt this fanatic scrutiny? If you guessed the emails of a private citizen during her tenure as Governor of Alaska, you’d be right.

But Breivik’s actual words completely contradict the “Conservat­ive Christian” caricature­. Below, you can see how, to save the environmen­t, he wants the world to rid itself of oil consumptio­n. You can see how he wants a one-child policy, government control of private industries­, the breakup of Rupert Murdoch’s media empire, the military support of Russia to prevent a possible U.S. invasion of Europe, and the removal of all U.S. military bases from European soil. Yes, the tea party platform through and through, folks!
01:40 PM on 07/31/2011
In Jesus Name? Not Hardly
http://wiz­bangblog.c­om/2011/07­/27/in-jes­us-name-no­t-hardly/

Large portions of his manifesto were lifted and adapted — uncredited­, of course — from the manifesto of the Unabomber, the infamous far-left eco-terror­ist.


What’s missing from his rantings? Any indicator that he held very devout Christian beliefs.
01:39 PM on 07/31/2011
Norwegian Ambassador­­: The Oslo Attacks And Palestinia­­n Terrorism Are ‘Different­­’
Posted by Rob Miller
http://big­­peace.com­/­robmille­r/­2011/07­/28­/norwe­gian­-amba­ssado­r-th­e-oslo­-at­tacks-a­nd­-palesti­n­ian-terro­­rism-are-d­­ifferent/

Norway, by the way, actively engages with Hamas, an organizati­­on that openly preaches genocide against Jews worldwide, not just in Israel. And according to the Ambassador­­, Israel ‘engaging’ with Hamas is a necessity.

Norway’s foreign minister wants Israel’s defensive barrier destroyed, to make it easier for homicide bombers to kill Jews.

In fact, Norway’s Labor Youth are noted for their vociferous anti-Israe­­l activities­­, with the fond approval of their elders for the most part.

Glenn Beck may have been a little over the top, but he wasn’t too far off in referring to the Utøya Island gathering as ‘kind of like a Hitler Youth meeting.”

Am I saying that the Labor Youth deserved to be shot down and murdered? Not at all. And based on his ‘manifesto­­’ the killer or killers had very little sympathy for Israel. Quite the reverse, in fact. But given that the victims of the Oslo killings and their government support groups that seek the genocide of Jews, let’s just say I’m not overly consumed with sorrow for them.

When you negate someone else’s humanity, you open up a door. And you have to live with what comes out of it.
canuckjen
A life that is lived is a life of evolution.
10:45 PM on 07/31/2011
You are seriously agreeing with Beck's equating a gathering of muticultural youth as "a Hitler Youth meeting". "And you have to live with what comes out of it" - you are excusing and or justifying a massacre of children even though like most haters, you then try to weasel out of what you have actually said. Shame on you. There is something seriously wrong with you. You are clearly bankrupt of morality.
01:39 PM on 07/31/2011
Anders Breivik T-Shirts, Anyone?
Posted by Humberto Fontova
http://big­­peace.com­/

At last count 32 year-old Anders Breivik is accused of 76 murders—to which he both confesses and boasts.

According to the Black Book of Communism, the Castroite firing squads founded and lovingly mentored by Che Guevara, murdered from 12-14 thousand Cubans. During the early months of the bloodbath, the 32 year-old Che Guevara was either delivering the coup ‘de grace to the victims’ (including boys as young as 17) skull, or was at his office window at Havana’s La Cabana prison, watching his darling firing squads at work.

And Che Guevara was no less boastful then Breivik. “Yes–certa­­inly we execute,” Che Guevara boasted while addressing the hallowed halls of the U.N. General Assembly on December 9, 1964. “And we’ll continue executing as long as it is necessary. This is a war to the DEATH against the revolution­­’s enemies!” Che’s Guevara’s image is considered the most reproduced image of the century, gracing everything from T-shirts to posters, from thong undies to skateboard­­s, from cellphones to infant “onezies.” Che Guevara also serves as poster Idol for many fervent activists against the death penalty.
01:38 PM on 07/31/2011
Makes sense. Very rarely do people carry out planned criminal acts during insanity. When a person is insane, and commits a crime, it's usual spontaneous and not planned.
01:36 PM on 07/31/2011
The lone Breivik has no support among conservatives or Christians.
The same cannot be said for the thousands of Islamic terrorists across the globe.

Still no story here at Huffpo, on the Fort Hood terrorist arrested a couple days ago .

Pretty extreme.
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gunrunner99
freedom of speech
06:18 PM on 07/31/2011
You should be used to the fact that several on here defend the muslims,and,put down the Christians,makes no sense,thought this was American and,because a mass murderer says he is a Christian or someone else says so,that makes it true right? Well,heck,I am not white,I am chinese,does that make me chinise,LOL,just shows you how some of their minds work,anything to get all riled up about.
jimbo57
ni dieu ni maitre
08:32 PM on 07/31/2011
yeah right..NO support at all. All the right wingers from FOX News on down are too busy backpedaling and denying this guy (who visited all the right wing sites and parrotted all the right wing talking points) could possibly have been influenced by their culture war progaganda or their racist anti-immigrant ravings. Glenn Beck, and just now, Pam Gellar, have said the dead kids deserved what happened. Start taking responsibility for the consequences of your words.
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Toddynho
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11:39 AM on 07/31/2011
So are all those who are anti Muslim, anti immigrant, anti socialist, pro Christian, hateful, gun-loving, pro nationalists to be considered INSANE too? Roughly, that's half of America's population.
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gunrunner99
freedom of speech
06:24 PM on 07/31/2011
Who is hateful? Thats kind of catagorizing people isnt it, Thought you didnt like that,ie: all muslims are terrorist,all libs are all the same,bla bla.Americans have the right to carry guns and be Christians and also some of those are Democrats,some dems actually do have weapons and believe in God,I learned that while mistakenly catagorizing them as all the same,(some of them), let me know that it wasnt true.
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Toddynho
I needs proof read more!
06:36 PM on 07/31/2011
You don't think that most republicans fit into what I described?
canuckjen
A life that is lived is a life of evolution.
10:39 PM on 07/31/2011
Fanned and Faved.