Tim Hudak Still The Man To Beat In Upcoming Ontario Vote

Tim Hudak

The Huffington Post Canada   First Posted: 08/03/11 08:51 AM ET Updated: 10/02/11 06:12 AM ET

The gap is narrowing, but Tim Hudak is still the man to beat in this fall's Ontario election.

A new poll by Forum Research puts Hudak's Progressive Conservatives at 38 per cent support, 10 points ahead of the governing Liberals.

Not far behind Dalton McGuinty are the New Democrats, who stand at 24 per cent.

This represents a gain of two points apiece for the Liberals and NDP compared to Forum's last poll conducted in June, while the Tories have dropped three points.

With the poll's margin of error, these shifts are not very significant. Furthermore, other data from this poll does not bode well for the Liberals.

The New Democrats lead among Ontarians aged 34 or younger, while the Tories are ahead among those aged 35 or older. Support is also relatively evenly distributed among men and women, giving the Liberals no demographic they can particularly count upon.

On issues which are most important to Ontarians, the Liberals are squeezed out by their two opponents. On job creation and the economy, the Tories are considered the best in this domain by 38 per cent, compared to 28 per cent for the Liberals.

On providing accessible health care, the PCs and NDP are tied at 30 per cent, with the Liberals are in third at 27 per cent. And on education, the Tories edge out the Liberals by 31 to 30 per cent.

But it is not all Dalton McGuinty’s fault. Though he has an approval rating of only 39 per cent (Hudak stands at 49 per cent and Andrea Horwath, leader of the NDP, at 63 per cent), he is considered the best person to be premier by 32 per cent of Ontarians. That is higher than current support for the Liberals and is only four points behind Tim Hudak, who at 36 per cent is less popular than the Progressive Conservative Party.

One potential hiccup could be the Tory leader's stance on abortion. Though he has shied away from answering questions on his own views, and has pledged not to re-open the debate, a Christian website has identified Hudak as pro-life and claimed he has signed a petition against abortion as recently as 2009.

According to this poll, however, Ontarians are plainly pro-choice. Fully 56 per cent say that an abortion should be allowed in all circumstances, while another 35 per cent say it should be allowed in some circumstances. Only 8 per cent of respondents said that abortion should not be allowed in any circumstances.

However, the Tories are still leading throughout the province, with double-digit leads in eastern and southwestern Ontario. They are also ahead in the GTA (though the Liberals hold a narrow lead in the 416 area code). In the north, the Tories are challenged by the NDP, who are within a few points of them.

Using ThreeHundredEight.com's seat projection model, this poll would deliver 60 seats to the Progressive Conservatives, 25 to the Liberals, and 22 to the New Democrats. But there are enough close races that the Tories could win only a plurality of seats and be handed a minority government. The odds are also relatively high that the NDP could supplant the Liberals and take on the role of the Official Opposition.

Nothing in this poll, however, points to Dalton McGuinty winning a third term as premier.

The IVR telephone poll by Forum Research was conducted between July 27 and 28 and surveyed 2,256 Ontarians. The poll has a margin of error of +/- 2.1%, 19 times out of 20.

Éric Grenier taps The Pulse of federal and regional politics for Huffington Post Canada readers on Tuesdays and Fridays. Grenier is the author of ThreeHundredEight.com, covering Canadian politics, polls and electoral projections.

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The gap is narrowing, but Tim Hudak is still the man to beat in this fall's Ontario election. A new poll by Forum Research puts Hudak's Progressive Conservatives at 38 per cent support, 10 points a...
The gap is narrowing, but Tim Hudak is still the man to beat in this fall's Ontario election. A new poll by Forum Research puts Hudak's Progressive Conservatives at 38 per cent support, 10 points a...
 
 
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03:04 PM on 09/27/2011
I was very shocked while watching t.v. with my son and I seen this idiots(a polite way of saying it) commercial come across the t.v. He voted against full day kindergarden,voted to have minimum wage frozen,to work full 60 hours a week and this is the one that really got under my skin....he voted against the child tax benifits!!! It really upsets me that someone so cold and heartless would vote against these things. Thousands of families depend on the child tax benifits and if that was taken away, the amount of families that would be on assistance and going to food banks and using food stamps would increase,so he should put himself in the shoes of a low income family and see how he likes it! He should ask his mother if she had child tax benifits while raising him,and I can almost bet you she did. Knowing that he is planning to do such horrible things and making broken promises just makes me more angrier!!! This guy needs to take a good look in the mirror,and he will see the reflection of hitler.
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stanschurman
09:01 AM on 08/04/2011
Mike Harris in a Michael Keaton mask.
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Spartan Ideal
12:41 AM on 08/04/2011
The article title is quite apt-Hudak definitely could use some sense knocked into him.
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Pax333
12:49 PM on 08/04/2011
Oh my, I thought approximately the same thing, why wait for an election....beat him now.
11:19 PM on 08/03/2011
Hudak is a better looking version of Harper. Harper would have deregulated our banks if he had had a majority and Canada would have been in the same mess as the US single payer health care means canadians live longeer than americans and pay half of what Americans pay for helath care. Education is still affordable. Women still have freedom of choice. I am tired of religious freaks running things. Hudak wins it will be fine for children to go hungry while endorsing and supporting the wealthy. Why not vote for the pope. Write him in.
11:08 PM on 08/03/2011
It is about time we put an end to these ultra-liberal agenda.
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Pax333
12:56 PM on 08/04/2011
Could you differenti­ate that from say the gay agenda, the neo-con agenda, the religious right agenda, pick a media you hate agenda, the agenda/age­nda? With a new agenda du jour I find specifics helpful.
07:04 PM on 08/03/2011
coming dark days for ontario
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tnanimation
05:58 PM on 08/03/2011
Mike Harris 2.0
Not gonna happen.
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PoliticalJunkie65
"Buzzinga!"
10:38 PM on 08/03/2011
From your lips to God's ears.
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mrsmdressup
100% snark
05:51 PM on 08/03/2011
I won't be voting for him. There is something so creepy about him...he frightens me. Of course, I haven't voted for anyone under the conservative banner since I lived in St. John's and voted for Danny Williams when he first ran for office.

Danny will be known as the last great conservative in Canada.
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PoliticalJunkie65
"Buzzinga!"
10:38 PM on 08/03/2011
Lord Tundering Jaysus, you voted for him? :-D
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CommonWealth-SinglePayer
Walk on the Right, VOTE on the LEFT
05:12 PM on 08/03/2011
Last kick at the can for the the far right looney right in Canada.

The Conservative movement is losing it's votes because most of it's ideas are stale and proven nasty and brutish at best.

The best Timmy can muster is Buck-A-Beer, very similar the Harris Nightmare and Photo Radar and or Harper Reform Party's GST down grade, which actually hurts working people.

We will see just how far the Harper gets in a Majority and it's early days for the Ford Twins to melt down and prove their silver spoon upbringing can't help them now.

I wouldn't mind the old Progressive Conservatives, they helped with Single Payer Health Care which has saved untold Generations of Canadians from Medical Bankruptcy, and they under stood their is responsibility to all with wealth created or "noblesse oblige" and giving back to the community.

Unlike the current crop of Conservatives who think they deserve to screw the next person and call it being an Entrepreneur.
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Leslie James Dalzell
One day at a time
05:12 PM on 08/03/2011
Oh for Pete's sake! If people are already having buyers remorse over Ford well a vote for Hudak is a vote for Ford like policy. History really does keep on repeating itself! Please if you don't want to see Hudak in power VOTE!! Everybody!!
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Sam Huston
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05:10 PM on 08/03/2011
First Rob then Stephan and now Tim, the leftist movement has finally lost its momentum.
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tnanimation
05:59 PM on 08/03/2011
Don't bet on it.
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Kristopher Leang
training to take down the elite
11:24 PM on 08/03/2011
lost its momentum? the left is spread out over 3 parties (some would say four if you include the bloc) but who vary economically, socially, culturally in so many different ways its impossible to represent them in one party. if you add lib, ndp and and green you have more than 50% not even including bloc in Quebec. the cons had to unite to finally win again or does everyone forget history? i was born in 1990 and i remember :0 probelm with that though is, most canadians do not want an american style two part plutocracy. and we are going to have to take drastic steps very soon to unravel corporate and politics. why? because government is supposed to do what is the will and interest of the people. . corporations are supposed to make the most money the easiest way and look out for their own interests and their shareholders. conservatives have actually made it so unlawful misappropriation of funds is just overlooked by our media.
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rickthaluddite
What noisy cats are we
07:56 PM on 08/06/2011
Fanned. Make sure you and all your young friends make it to the voting booth on election day.
04:01 PM on 08/03/2011
gross, sounds like mandatory HJ's
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Moose Luck 99
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03:51 PM on 08/03/2011
HUDAK LOVES THIS!!

Canada Set to Become Globalist Bully

June 4, 2011
McKay.jpg(Left, Canada "Defense" Minister, Peter MacKay)

Canada is negotiating with seven countries around the world to establish military bases: Kuwait, Germany, Jamaica, Senegal, Kenya, Singapore, and South Korea.

by Henry Makow Ph.D.

If ever we needed more proof that our political leaders serve the Rothschilds, and our democracy is a charade, this is it.

Despite the fact that the majority of Canadians want less "defense" spending, Canada is embarked on a military-spending spree "unlike anything experienced since the Second World War. In just 10 years, our annual defense spending has more than doubled -- from $10 billion in 2000 to $21.8 billion today -- and is just getting into its stride."

Canadians are being asked to cough up $30 billion for F-35 fighter jets that won't be ready until 2016 and another $40 billion to replace navy ships over two decades.

"A Canadian general is heading up the UN-sanctioned NATO mission in Libya, and Canada was among the first with boots on the ground in Haiti devastating earthquake there over a year ago.
Canada is negotiating with seven countries around the world to establish military bases: Kuwait, Germany, Jamaica, Senegal, Kenya, Singapore, and South Korea.

Notice how NATO never attacks anyone its own size?

Canada's "mission" in Afghanistan cost $30 billion and is hugely unpopular.
Now they're planning more such Invasions. Libya was never debated in parliament nor during the recent election campaign.
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Sam Huston
Fair, Balanced and Informed
05:18 PM on 08/03/2011
The Libs got the Canadian forces into Afghanistan and later moved them from the relative safety of Kabul to the meat grinder called Kandahar. If the socialist parties didn't see fit to challenge Harper on Libya in parliament or the elections, it just goes to show that they either supported it of are very incompetent. Either Way Harper’s rocks.
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PoliticalJunkie65
"Buzzinga!"
10:40 PM on 08/03/2011
I disagree, Harper sucks.
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Jesse Wright
08:43 AM on 08/04/2011
I don't believe that challenging Harper shows incompetence. The last election went basically unchallenged because Canadians are politically lazy. They didn't want another election (which the Libs should have realized and not acted) and then they voted that way. They voted in the safest majority because they knew only a couple more votes and Harper would finally have majority and keep his government thereby 'saving' Canada from another vote for 4 years. That's not political incompetence, it's lazy politics.
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Sam Huston
Fair, Balanced and Informed
02:34 PM on 08/03/2011
First Rob then Stephan and now Tim, sanity is finally breaking out in Canada.
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02:41 PM on 08/03/2011
If you had said insanity, then the majority of the Confederation would have agree with you.
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Sam Huston
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02:44 PM on 08/03/2011
Socialism doesn't work. They have run out of other peoples money.
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Sam Huston
Fair, Balanced and Informed
02:24 PM on 08/03/2011
He's got my vote.

No more green nonsense.
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ProgressiveCDN
A Progressive Moderate
02:33 PM on 08/03/2011
Fail.
So let's replace "green nonsense" with Republican nonsense... These guys are American-style politicians with no sense of direction.
Their answer to governing well is to create less governing... I would be curious to see the ratings for FAUX News in Ontario.
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Sam Huston
Fair, Balanced and Informed
02:39 PM on 08/03/2011
Socialism is a thing of the past, look what's happening in Europe and the US. You will get over it when you get a real job and earn some money.