U.K. Riots: Social Media May Be Disrupted As Cameron Vows To Crush 'Culture Of Fear' (VIDEO)

First Posted: 08/11/11 09:35 AM ET Updated: 10/11/11 06:12 AM ET

LONDON - Prime Minister David Cameron on Thursday promised vigorous and wide-ranging measures to restore order and prevent riots erupting again on Britain's streets — including taking gang-fighting tips from American cities.

Cameron told lawmakers there would be no "culture of fear" on Britain's streets, as police raided houses to round up more suspects from four days of rioting and looting in London and other English cities. He said the government was "acting decisively" to restore order after the riots, which shocked the country and the world.

"We will not allow a culture of fear to exist on our streets," Cameron said. "We will not let a violent few beat us."

Lawmakers were summoned back from their summer vacations for an emergency session of Parliament in the riots as government and police worked to regain control, both on the streets and in the court of public opinion. Calm prevailed in London overnight, with a highly visible police presence watching over the capital, but tensions remained high throughout the country.

Cameron promised tough measures to stop further violence and said "nothing should be off the table," including water cannons and plastic bullets.

He said riot-hit businesses would receive help to get back on their feet, and promised to look to the United States for help in fighting the street gangs he blamed for helping spark Britain's riots.

Cameron told lawmakers that he would look to cities like Boston for inspiration, and mentioned former Los Angeles and New York Police Chief Bill Bratton as a person who could help offer advice.

He said the government, police and intelligence services were looking at whether there should be limits on the use social media sites like Twitter and Facebook to spread disorder. Authorities are considering "whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminality," he said.

Meanwhile the number of people arrested in London rose to 922 since trouble began on Saturday, with 401 suspects charged.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stephen Kavanagh said raids to round up suspects began overnight, and more than 100 warrants would be executed. Hugh Orde, head of the Association of Chief Police Officers, said there would be "hundreds more people in custody" by the end of the day.

The violence has revived debate about the Conservative-led government's austerity measures and sparked debate from all parts of the political spectrum about its cause. But, Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said the "sociological debate" about the origins of the violence was for the future.

"Right now it's important that people are reassured that their streets are made safe, their homes are made safe and society is allowed to move on," Clegg told BBC radio.

The London police said it would keep up the huge operation — involving 16,000 officers — for at least one more night.

There was a brief outbreak of trouble in Eltham, southeast London, where a group of largely white and middle-aged men who claimed to be defending their neighbourhood pelted police with rocks and bottles. Police said the incident had been "dealt with" and a group was dispersed.

There were chaotic scenes at courthouses, several of which sat through the night to process scores of alleged looters and vandals, including an 11-year-old boy.

The defendants included Natasha Reid, a 24-year-old university graduate who admitted stealing a TV from a looted electronics store in north London. Her lawyer said she had turned herself in because she could not sleep because of guilt.

Also due to appear in court were several people charged with using social networking sites like Twitter and Facebook to incite violence.
Other cities where looters had rampaged earlier this week also came through the night largely unscathed, though for the first time minor disturbances were reported in Wales.

Tensions flared in Birmingham, where a murder probe was opened after three men were killed in a hit-and-run incident as they took to the streets to defend shops from looting.

Chris Sims, chief constable of West Midlands Police, said a man had been arrested on suspicion of murder. Police on Thursday were given more time to question him.

The Conservative-led government's austerity measures is slashing 80 billion pounds ($130 billion) from public spending by 2015 to reduce the country's swollen budget deficit.

Cameron's government has slashed police budgets as part of the cuts. A report last month said the cuts will mean 16,000 fewer police officers by 2015.

Cameron said the cuts would not hit front-line officers.

He said that "at the end of this process of making sure our police budgets are affordable we will still be able to surge as many police officers on to the streets as we have in recent days."

But London Mayor Boris Johnson — like Cameron, a Conservative — broke with the government to say such cuts are wrong.

"That case was always pretty frail and it has been substantially weakened," he told BBC radio. "This is not a time to think about making substantial cuts in police numbers."

Scenes of ransacked stores, torched cars and blackened buildings have frightened and outraged Britons just a year before their country is to host next summer's Olympic Games, bringing demands for a tougher response from law enforcement.

Soccer authorities announced Thursday that Tottenham Hotspur's season-opening match against Everton on Saturday was being postponed following Saturday's disorder in the Tottenham neighbourhood, which sparked trouble across England.

Officials said there were ongoing safety concerns in the area around the north London club's White Hart Lane stadium, which has seen police resources stretched.

A Wednesday match between England and the Netherlands at London's Wembley stadium also was cancelled.

Britain's riots began Saturday when an initially peaceful protest over a police shooting turned violent. That clash has morphed into general lawlessness that police struggled to halt.

While the rioters have run off with goods every teen wants — new sneakers, bikes, electronics and leather goods — they also have torched stores apparently just to see something burn. They were left virtually unchallenged in several neighbourhoods, and when police did arrive they often were able to flee quickly and regroup.

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12:56 PM on 08/11/2011
Shut Down the social media sites?

Yes, that cuts to the heart of the problem.

If they start using the phone, we will shut down the telephone system!

If they start passing notes, we will outlaw Pencils!

If they use word of mouth, we will break their jaws!

The various modes of communication are not the problem if the message is resonating with the people. You need to figure out what is responsible for the underlying motivation for this behavior and address it.
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Jake Thomas
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12:18 PM on 08/11/2011
"culture of fear"?
I think the bankers created that long before these "rioters".
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Jeffery Cuneo
03:55 PM on 08/11/2011
It's amazing how swift and decisive Governments are when it comes to combatting people who are committing acts of vandalism and the looting of goods totalling what? A few hundred bucks? But when BP spills oil into our waters and when banks loot us for billions of dollars, nobody goes to jail.

This flagrant two-tier justice system is entirely reprehensible. Ah well.
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lizr
goofing off here
06:57 PM on 08/11/2011
and when the Banksters steal our pension plans and all our tax dollars? hey, no problem.
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patrickwwalker
12:09 PM on 08/11/2011
"Authoritie­s are considerin­g "whether it would be right to stop people communicat­ing via these websites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminalit­y," he said.

That wasn't Hosni Mubarak, Bashar Al-Assad, nor even the Chinese politburo. Chilling words.
04:42 PM on 08/11/2011
Don't forget vowing not to "let any phony concerns about human rights get in the way". Cameron's obviously a gem. Dark days indeed.
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lizr
goofing off here
11:03 AM on 08/11/2011
think the kids of England might be a tad pissed off about their futures being handed to the Banksters to bail out their gambling spree? I hear Goldman Sachs was burned in Effigy in Greece. The Europeans know who is having the party, and who is paying.
11:01 AM on 08/11/2011
Hmmm, let's try this again, seeing as how it didn't get posted last time.

Blaming social media for the violence and riots in the UK is utterly ridiculous. But I guess it's much easier for the UK government to attempt to shut down or interrupt Facebook and Twitter service than it is to address the real problem, which is the high level of socio-economic inequality and very high youth unemployment in Britain. The UK is beginning to look remarkably like Egypt or Syria in their response to this.
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arkymorgan
Nobody knows the trouble I've been...
11:15 AM on 08/11/2011
It does not look good.

But I am hoping cooler heads will prevail. Cameron's government is in charge only by the grace of the LibDems, and while Clegg seems not merely willing but eager to prostitute himself to the Tories for momentary and largely illusory political power, I suspect many of his fellow-party members may be less sanguine.

It is to be hoped that once this situation is less present as an ongoing crisis, those cooler heads may prevail, and rather than curtail rights, they will at least attempt to examine the root causes of this distress.

Indeed, it may even occur to some MPs that decades of denying even the faintest hope of a decent future to million of young people and minorities may have built up into an enormous pile of emotional brushwood, requiring only the most irrelevant of sparks to ignite it.
11:33 AM on 08/11/2011
I'd say that for the first day of riots in Tottenham, socio-economic disparity may have had some weight as to why they were torching their own neighbourhood. (which i'll never understand).
The following days have been nothing but opportunistic, me-first raids, led by all kinds of people, and not just the perpetually oppressed.
It's become a joke.

God Forbid the government respond to thousands of its idiot citizens burning, pillaging, looting and murdering.
Also water cannons are not the same as tanks and guns.

I see what you're going for, but you miss the mark.
12:13 PM on 08/11/2011
I'm certainly not saying that they shouldn't respond to the violence and arrest and press charges against everyone who is participating in that violence. That is an absolute must. However, shutting down social media services is not a valid response to all of this. It will take away the thousands of viable reasonable uses of that technology from millions of innocent people. And once that power has been placed into the hands of the authorities, trust me, it won't be given back anytime soon. It sets a dangerous precedent; some day people will wake up and realize that all of their personal freedoms have been taken away, all because the government wanted to "keep them safe". There were out-of-control riots long before there was social media being used to organize them. You need to address the issues that cause these riots; and using the techology of social media services to help in the cleanup and arrest of the participants is a much more reasonable solution.
01:03 PM on 08/11/2011
Maybe they don't see the neighbourhood as theirs.
10:40 AM on 08/11/2011
Haha, that's right stop the peasant uprising, send your elite knights and armies to destroy the messenger (FACEBOOK, TWITTER, etc).

Sarcasm........
10:31 AM on 08/11/2011
Social media could be used positively too. For instance in reporting fresh outbreaks, warning shop-owners, even emergency services or citizens. Can also be used to clean up. Photos of looters can be posted, that is social policing....the platform can be used for good, people just like to talk nonsense on it
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I can't spell. I blame msn.
11:09 AM on 08/11/2011
media makes a big deal about social media. maybe it is best to say it can be used for good or evil. young people are angry and disenchanted with the world they live in. often when your young that emotion can turn to random acts of violence. there is a lesson in the folly of the eye for an eye justice in our economic fortunes. it is just too dam expensive. MAD is too expensive. in 10 years you will need to provide some sort of identification to use the web, phone or email. national security, greater good... now I a sound like a lunatic.. muahahah.. I am I am
09:35 AM on 08/11/2011
is it just coincedence or are the governments in europe up to something...
09:55 AM on 08/11/2011
Like what?
10:07 AM on 08/11/2011
honestly i dont knw but i think this is what the aztecs were tlking about...
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lizr
goofing off here
11:04 AM on 08/11/2011
no different than what OUR government is up to..

handing over our $$ and all our resources to the rich,

impoverishing the rest.
09:16 AM on 08/11/2011
This is the part where we learn that a civil society requires the consent of all its members, not just the rich ones.
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arkymorgan
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11:19 AM on 08/11/2011
A lesson that seems to need repeating every fifty years or so.

The wealthy and the powerful seem to be incapable of passing on the lessons of the past to their heirs.
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Siva Nathan
09:13 AM on 08/11/2011
Good job Cameron. Rioters/looters should be dealt with.
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lizr
goofing off here
11:05 AM on 08/11/2011
how about Bankster /Looters?

should they be dealt with?
11:28 AM on 08/11/2011
What is a bankster/looter?
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Duane Hurt
11:45 AM on 08/11/2011
I understand these people having protests. However, how can you POSSIBLY defend these violent attacks on innocent people. I've seen the horrors when I was living in France in 2006. I watched a woman get burned to death on a bus and there was nothing anybody could do. They threw gasoline on her and torched her with fire. That's something we should defend? Sure the Banksters should be dealt with. But that doesn't make what the rioters and looters are doing justifiable. Anybody who thinks otherwise is only trying to justify a sense of individualism that is not good for any society.
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patrickwwalker
09:08 AM on 08/11/2011
"He said the government, police and intelligence services were looking at whether there should be limits on the use social media sites like Twitter and Facebook to spread disorder. Authorities are considering "whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminality," he said."

Anyone else surprised it took them this long to go after instruments of democratic resistance? I keep thinking back to FTAA in Quebec City and the G8/G20 in Toronto and all those Black Bloc thugs in their police-issued safety boots. The full-court press to label this entirely as criminal is unsurprising. What is surprising is the traction it's getting in the lame-stream media.
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dread
09:07 AM on 08/11/2011
Why are the cops covering their faces. Maybe we are seeing why there is unrest.
09:58 AM on 08/11/2011
Fail
10:55 AM on 08/11/2011
Double Fail. Why are the rioters covering their faces?
Maybe the police dont like getting spat at, or having objects thrown at them?
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lizr
goofing off here
11:06 AM on 08/11/2011
or maybe they need to hide what they do
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dread
11:16 AM on 08/11/2011
That is what the glass visor on the helmet is for. You only hide your face if you are doing something that you don't want to be identified with as in the Toronto police during the G8 summit.
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Miserable Swine
08:57 AM on 08/11/2011
If Facebook and Twitter were `shut off` (or at least disrupted), it would give people a chance to snap out of the soporific world of `social media` and reclaim their lives. It`s great for a while, but the sheer volume of inane drivel coming out of Zuckerberg`s monstrous creation, Facebook, induces further bouts of virtual logorrhea: what I had for breakfast; who s*****d who after getting blind drunk(etc etc etc). Result: tons of chatter gobbling up people`s lives.

It was great when nasty dictatorships had to face the Arab Spring via social networking, but technology doesn`t make distinctions between `good and `bad`.
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09:43 AM on 08/11/2011
Well said. However it's unlikely that this will happen because the majority of people who are not the offenders would not take kindly to having their freedom intruded upon like that. It's an impossible task as well. Facebook is run by bots, not people so having FB cooperate in anyway wouldn't happen.
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lizr
goofing off here
11:41 AM on 08/11/2011
actually Facebook cooperates constantly with the NSA, FBI, CIA so dont go thinking your communications are private.
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thegirlnextdoor
11:13 AM on 08/11/2011
I have the good fortune to live and work in an arts community that uses facebook so differently. We share info about shows and ideas and fun stuff. It may work for us because we are out doing things together in the real world a lot of the time and not isolated with our comupters and smart phones.
But it is important for me to be reminded that in fact, it can be used so very differently.