Ontario Liberal Platform Leak: Commuter Trains And Tax Credits

Ontario Premier Dalton Mcguinty

First Posted: 09/04/11 07:40 PM ET Updated: 11/04/11 06:12 AM ET

TORONTO - Ontario's governing Liberals hope all-day commuter trains and a new tax credit to help immigrants will "stop the Tory hat-trick" Prime Minister Stephen Harper suggested was imminent in the Oct. 6 provincial election.

Details of the platform Premier Dalton McGuinty hopes will deliver a third majority Liberal government in Ontario were obtained Sunday by The Canadian Press, a day before the party was to make the platform public.

The embarrassing leak has exposed the fact that even top Liberal insiders are concerned about some of the policies outlined to party strategists during a conference call Sunday.

An audio recording of the Liberal conference call was heard by The Canadian Press, in a leak the Progressive Conservatives said was proof the Liberals have some serious internal problems.

"It’s embarrassing that the Liberals, after keeping their platform secret for so many months, had all the details leak, said PC campaign spokesman Jason Lietaer.

"Clearly, there are even Liberals who don’t want to see four more years of Dalton McGuinty."

The New Democrats said the leak shows Liberals are jumping ship.

"There are people close to the (Liberal) party, I think, that are jumping ship and they're bringing their numbers with them," said NDP critic France Gelinas.

"None of this sounds like a well-prepared campaign, ready to bring changes that people need."

The Liberals declined to comment on the leak and said all Ontario residents can hear the full platform when McGuinty releases it Monday.

Part of the Liberal plan is "a strong voice for a strong Ontario," which could be "subtitled stop the hat-trick," McGuinty's policy guru Jameson Steeve said during the briefing.

Harper made the hat-trick comment at a recent event hosted by Toronto's Mayor Rob Ford in an effort to bolster the chances for new Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak in the Ontario vote.

If Ontario's Tories form the government in the fall vote, Conservatives would lead in all three levels of government in Ontario.

The Liberal document is long on talk about defending the party's record on health care and education, but is marked by neither sexy nor expensive promises.

All-day trains along existing corridors of the provincially run GO Transit service, an expansion from rush-hour only service, is expected to be a big hit in the vote-rich suburbs surrounding Toronto.

"This will probably be well accepted and good politics in the 905 area," Steeve is heard to say on the phone call, which included such notable Liberal insiders as former health minister George Smitherman and strategists Bob Richardson and Andrew Steele.

People who hire an immigrant for their first job in Ontario would be eligible for a tax credit on the first $10,000 of costs associated with the hiring, a plan that raised some concern on the Liberal conference call.

"It reminded me a little bit of the potential blow back that we could see by positioning it from the opposition as an affirmative action program," said Steele.

The Liberal platform puts another $60 million into more support workers to buy three million more hours of home care for seniors.

If elected, the party would also create three new undergraduate campuses at universities across the province, but the Liberals won't specify locations because they don't want candidates saying they'll be fighting for those spots.

The Liberals promise to make permanent the Northern Ontario Heritage Fund and the Eastern Ontario Economic Development Fund, raising concerns with Smitherman that jurisdictions such as Hamilton which haven't asked for similar funds soon will.

"Just highlighting a danger," said Smitherman.

The Liberal platform includes 68 promises, 45 of them new, and would cost about $1.5 billion by year four. By contrast, the Liberals say the Progressive Conservative platform would cost $4 billion by the fourth year and the NDP's plan about $2.6 billion.

The Liberals believe they've been successful in convincing people there is a $14-billion shortfall in the PC's platform numbers.

"The $14-billion hole is basically just our excuse to say that he (Hudak) is going to go after health care and education, because that's the main message we want to drive," said McGuinty strategist Alicia Johnston. "You know you can't trust this guy with our health care and education systems."

The Liberals want to emphasize to voters the importance of sticking with the party and the leader people know during challenging economic times.

"The main theme of this platform is that it is a serious plan for serious times," said Steeve.

The source who made the audio recording of the conference call available to The Canadian Press requested anonymity, and said it was a Liberal who was the "fundamental source" for the file.

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09:18 PM on 09/07/2011
It's also way too late for those engineers and other professionals who came here between 2001 and 2003 and couldn't find suitable work- those skills have a shelf life, just like those of a fresh grad who can't find work in their profession.
09:16 PM on 09/07/2011
This is bad public policy, plain and simple. We have no labour shortage, especially not for professional positions- we have a shortage of firms willing to hire and train new people, whether those new people be those recently laid off from an industry in decline, or fresh grads of our own universities, or fresh immigrants. Successive recessions taught them that this was no longer necessary.

Until very recently we had an economic immigration system with NO linkage whatsoever between the supply of particular professional immigrant skills and the actual measured need for these skills in the local economy. Rather, it was presumed that Canada had some kind of bizarre generalized "shortage of skilled workers", as if it were still the 1950s and we didn't have enough universities to generate the number of graduates we needed in each profession. For three years straight (2001-2003), more immigrant engineers settled each year in Toronto alone than we graduated from ALL of Canada's universities combined. THAT, rather than some crisis of "credential recognition" or a cabal of racist, xenophobic employers excluding the "foreigners", is the reason you find so many Indian engineers driving taxis in Toronto and cursing this country for luring them here.

Instead of doing anything to spur job creation, this policy merely creates an unfair fight between fresh grads and fresh immigrants for the same, inadequate number of entry-level jobs. And it does it by donating my tax money to profitable businesses. It's utterly wrong-headed.
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dread
05:17 PM on 09/05/2011
His platform is simple. Lie and promise anything to get elected then renege. Check his last 2 campaign platforms if your doubt me.
12:47 PM on 09/05/2011
My Tax Dollar$ going to work to make Canadians disadvantaged in seeking employment.

Something is Very Wrong.
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elizlucinda
a mind is a terrible thing to waste
12:30 PM on 09/05/2011
If someone asks for anonymity after leaking information why should that person be trusted when he says a "liberal|" was the fundamental source of the material. Its disingenuous at best to try and say there are divisions in the party based on the fact someone is dishonest enough to leak a platform
11:35 AM on 09/05/2011
Seriously we are headed for Greece's future with the spending platforms of All the Parties.

You keep digging a deeper hole in debt for my grandchildren.

I thought we needed all the 700 000 immigrants a year we let in.

Time to wake up and smell the Tea Ontario.
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Runey
religion is why we can't have nice things.
03:09 AM on 09/06/2011
Tea Party BS is the last thing we need.
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rickthaluddite
What noisy cats are we
09:20 AM on 09/05/2011
I bet voters are going to become enamoured with Andrea Horwath over the next 4 weeks-- It won't be like Bob Rae's sweep, but the NDP could win up to 30-35 seats. Not here in Guelph tho', we're sending the green party to Toronto this time.
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spinnerator
08:56 AM on 09/05/2011
A $10,000 tax credit for companies hiring immigrants? Are you serious? Do you people even read the local news? We have a Youth Unemployment problem in this province, the kids who are our future are being ignored and marginalized and you'd throw money at jobs for immigrants? This is political pandering at it's most vile. I know dozens of decent, born in ontario kids who can't find meaningful work, and they cover the whole spectrum, white kids, black kids, east indian kids.

I'm the son of immigrants who went through hell to make a decent living here. My father was a professional engineer but could only find work as a Postal Worker. So I know the immigrant story, but I want my tax money going to something sustainable and until you solve the youth unemployment problem you will have a ticking time bomb of social upheaval waiting to go off.
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elizlucinda
a mind is a terrible thing to waste
12:33 PM on 09/05/2011
Spinnerator..If you want to become a truly effective "spin doctor" try reading the story.....It's not a $10,000 tax credit..It's a tax credit on the first $10,000 worth of cost associated with the hiring.....There is a difference!!!
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Runey
religion is why we can't have nice things.
03:11 AM on 09/06/2011
not much of one.
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Sam Huston
Fair, Balanced and Informed
07:37 AM on 09/05/2011
Buying votes with taxpayer’s money.

I agree that all political parties do it but liberal/progressives always seem to excel at throwing excessive amounts of money at unsustainable feel good projects and causes that don’t produce any long-term benefits to the economy or taxpayer.
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elizlucinda
a mind is a terrible thing to waste
09:47 AM on 09/05/2011
Sam huston: Perhaps you could enlighten us and tell me specifically what the unsustainable feel good projects are.
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Sam Huston
Fair, Balanced and Informed
07:03 PM on 09/05/2011
If you can't figure it out this late in the game you're already biased against commonsense so I won’t waste my time trying to explain.
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Runey
religion is why we can't have nice things.
03:13 AM on 09/06/2011
I'll give you an example to nibble on.
Masquerading $10,000 towards affirmative action as a type of job stimulus, when really it is a form of disadvantage for the rest of workers trying to get those positions, because the jobs will look at their bottom lines and realize they will have $10,000 in savings for each immigrant they hire. Period.
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Runey
religion is why we can't have nice things.
06:21 AM on 09/12/2011
Sam it's seriously hard to look at this 'big picture' when the weeds grow 10 feet tall in the tories' yards.
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SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
03:40 AM on 09/05/2011
I dont see anything all that terrible here. What's the problem?
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elizlucinda
a mind is a terrible thing to waste
12:34 PM on 09/05/2011
I agree......This is not exactly controversial stuff.....