Rogers Admits It May Be Throttling Games

Rogers Throttling Video Games

First Posted: 09/06/11 11:25 PM ET Updated: 11/06/11 05:12 AM ET

Rogers has acknowledged that World of Warcraft is not the only online game or application that may be inadvertently targeted and slowed down by its network.

However, the slowdown or throttling would only happen under specific circumstances, Rogers said in a written response submitted last Friday to questions posed by the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC).

Rogers admitted in March, following complaints from gamers, that equipment used to slow down some kinds of internet traffic and prioritize others could negatively affect World of Warcraft. The company has since fixed the problem.

However, the Canadian Gamers Organization, a group representing Canadians who play online games, told the CRTC that the game Call of Duty: Black Ops also seemed to be slowed down on a Rogers connection. That prompted the CRTC to ask Rogers whether other games or applications might be affected, whether it has tested those games and applications, and whether it had informed users about the World of Warcraft problem and how it was fixed.

Ken Thompson, the company’s director and counsel for copyright and broadband law, wrote back that other games and applications could be affected if:

- Other peer-to-peer applications are running at the same time;

- The game or application was misclassified by network traffic management systems, as in the case of World of Warcraft; and

- All the applications classified as peer-to-peer traffic have a combined bandwidth of 80 kilobits per second or more – the threshold that trips the network traffic management system.

Thompson said World of Warcraft and other games run “well below 80 kbps.” He did not say how likely it was for games to be misclassified as peer-to-peer traffic when other peer-to-peer applications are running. Nor did he offer any possible solutions to the problem.

However, he noted that the internet traffic management policy on Rogers’s website informs customers they may experience problems if they run peer-to-peer applications as the same time as other applications, including games.

He added that internet slow-downs can also be unrelated to the internet traffic management system and said Rogers would be pleased if Jason Koblovsky, the co-founder of the Canadian Gamers Organization, “would allow our technicians to help him find solutions."

Koblovsky, however, was not impressed by that suggestion.

"Rather than fixing the issue and actively whitelisting gaming systems to ensure they are not affected... Rogers is continuing to rely on consumer input and complaints rather than put forth the active testing needed to ensure compliance with CRTC policy," he said in an email. "We believe this approach is inappropriate under these circumstances."

Thompson said the network traffic management systems are provided by Cisco, which tests them with 800 of the most popular internet applications and protocols to ensure traffic is classified properly.

It is also tested by Rogers. In particular, Thompson said, “Rogers conducts specific tests on those games and applications that are the subject of customer complaints."

He added that the company monitors online forums for problems and any issues are "thoroughly investigated."

Gamers dissatisfied

In general, Koblovsky was not satisfied with Rogers's response.

“Most games nowadays require much more speed than 80 kilobits per second to run smoothly,” he said in an email.

Teresa Murphy, the group’s other co-founder, told CBC News Tuesday that many games can run at lower speeds, but that limits what users can do — for example, they may not be able to play with as many other people at the same time.

Users can get around that by not running peer-to-peer applications at the same time. But Koblovsky doesn’t think it should have to come to that.

“It is Rogers responsibility to become compatible with their customers’ needs,” he said. “Their customers should not be tailoring to Rogers.”

Murphy acknowledged that users who aren’t satisfied with the rule can go to other internet providers.

However, she thinks Rogers will soon be forcing independent cable ISPs to use the same traffic management system as Rogers itself, resulting in the same problems for customers of those ISPs. She added that she personally doesn’t want to use a non-cable internet provider such as Bell, because the DSL technology Bell uses means a customer’s internet speed can be relatively slow if she doesn’t live close enough to the internet provider’s equipment.

"We want to be able to play our games," she said. "It’s just becoming difficult."

Murphy said her group is currently filing an application to the CRTC asking for a new law requiring companies such as Rogers to have a formal way for customers to report complaints. The system would also require ISPs to update customers on the status of the problem they reported.

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eurisko67
02:43 PM on 09/07/2011
Games? This uproar is over games? Please. People use the internet for far more important things which require speed, gaming prioirties should be at the bottom of the list.

And I wonder why Koblovsky won't let Rogers investigate his network problems. Likely, as they've said, he's using peer-to-peer pirating programs he doesn't want them to know about.
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Whistlejackett
Hey stop doing that
04:44 PM on 09/07/2011
Pirating programs are good.
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eurisko67
04:47 PM on 09/07/2011
Regardless of personal ethics. One should not complain about speed, when they themselves are the source of the problem.
06:06 PM on 09/07/2011
What business is it of yours what people are using the internet for?
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CommonWealth-SinglePayer
Walk on the Right, VOTE on the LEFT
11:50 AM on 09/07/2011
Rogers wants to start a Bank, would you trust your money with these highway robbers?
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eurisko67
02:45 PM on 09/07/2011
Highway robbers? Move to Bell. See how much loot they wish to remove from your wallet.
10:46 AM on 09/07/2011
this is a joke. The providers supply HDTV services which they want you to buy.
This takes up enormous bandwidth and download capacity. Are they going to
charge their customers extra for HDTV? Well..duh..they have the means and the
capacity they just want to control it all and make more dollars
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Domo Tronic
Digital Magician
10:39 AM on 09/07/2011
"May be"?

It is or it isn't.

What a joke.

Anyone going to get their new credit card?
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eurisko67
03:06 PM on 09/07/2011
Did you read the article? Yes, network speeds "May be" affected when gamers are also running programs such as peer-to-peer clients. Using P2P "it is", not using P2P "it isn't", see the distinction?
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greysells2
grey cells matter
10:22 AM on 09/07/2011
It is like a toll road. You pay to drive on it. You can then drive 55 or 70 mph. Your choice. You can drive straight through or stop for lunch or take a snooze. Your choice. The providers want their cake and eat it tot.
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john frodo
armchair expert
08:57 AM on 09/07/2011
Stop the monopoly
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eurisko67
02:55 PM on 09/07/2011
Yes! Stop the monopoly! Since Bell ExpressVu, StarChoice, Bell Mobility, Fido, Telus, Wind, Primus, Net Zero, Distributel, Mobilicity, PC Mobile, Shaw, Cogeco, Virgin Mobile, and SimplyConnet are all figments of the collective imagination. There's nowhere to go but Rogers. Oh dear.
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john frodo
armchair expert
03:26 PM on 09/07/2011
Its an illusion of competition
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03:37 PM on 09/07/2011
What service do all of these providers offer in your neighbourhood? Seems like you just threw a bunch of telecom company names at the screen and hoped that it would silence the critics. Unfortunately you are talking about a couple different services...

Rogers and Bell are the only real high speed internet choices (they control the lines to your house). You can go to a reseller like Teksavvy, however Bell and Rogers aren't interested in competing on providing better cost or service basis. They want to put in place roadblocks to ensure that these resellers need to provide service which is as poor as their own.

Rogers, Shaw and Cogeco do not directly compete. In the 80s and 90s they colluded to split the country so that they do not offer services in the same regions.

We are starting to see competition in the mobile data and voice arena and I am eager for the new players to start to force the big players to compete on price and service as opposed to running to their flunkies in the CRTC to help them crush the competition.
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Cael
10:45 PM on 09/06/2011
Why isnt this illegal? You pay for a service, you pay extra for faster speeds, so if they don't give you what you pay for, they owe you a discount.