Canada-U.S. Price Gap: Pyjamas, Pantyhose, Pillows Among Items That Cost More In Canada

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First Posted: 09/11/11 07:00 AM ET Updated: 11/11/11 05:12 AM ET

MONTREAL - It's a fact of consumer life that buying in Canada means paying more than you would south of the border, with a so-called Canadian premium on everything from running shoes to hockey skates, from pyjamas to pantyhose.

Even the stronger loonie hasn't been able to overcome obstacles that include import tariffs ranging as high as 18 per cent, a number of higher fixed costs and, admittedly, the fact that retailers in Canada can simply get away with charging more.

"The people who should win from a stronger Canadian dollar are consumers," said BMO's deputy chief economist, Douglas Porter. "They don't feel that way."

"We have been above parity for basically all of 2011 and when you get to those levels it makes the price comparisons very straightforward and it's frustrating for consumers," said Porter, who has been tracking price differences between the two countries since the loonie soared in 2007.

Hockey parents have noticed that equipment is cheaper in the United States and some are finding ways to bring it back to Canada unnoticed.

"It depends on the equipment, but it can vary from 20 per cent to 45 per cent cheaper in the U.S.," said one parent. "When you get into the high-quality products, the price difference is higher."

Some U.S. retailers such as Hollister, the California surfer clothes chain, are upfront about advertising their two-tiered policy, listing both Canadian and U.S. prices on their price tags.

Others, like American fashion retailer J. Crew, charge an average of about 15 per cent more in Canada compared with its U.S. stores and website.

A Senate committee plans to study the price gap, a process that will take time and could run into 2012, which would miss the holiday shopping season.

Tariffs on most goods between Canada, the United States and Mexico were phased out under trade deals signed in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

But there are still import duties paid on some goods not covered by these trade agreements as well as a range of clothing and sporting goods that come into Canada from Asia, Europe, South America and other countries.

There's also the cost of doing business in Canada, which adds to the price of goods — from bilingual labelling to transportation, payroll taxes and real estate, said marketing professor Ken Wong of Queen's University in Kingston, Ont.

"The other part of it is quite simply what the market will bear," Wong added.

"So, to a certain extent, there is an element of artificial inflation of some Canadian prices. From a consumer perspective, you could say it is gouging. From a manufacturer's perspective, I would guess you see it as smart business."

Cotton clothing such as T-shirts and track suits, women's and girl's ski jackets and overcoats, pillows, cotton bras, towels and bed linen face import duties of between 14 and 18 per cent, according to the Retail Council of Canada.

These items aren't out of the ordinary, said Anne Kothawala, a spokeswoman for the council, which would like to see the tariffs removed.

"Clothing and sporting equipment are the particularly egregious areas," she said.

Federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has conceded that removing such tariffs might be one way the government could help, but he wants the Senate committee to take a thorough look at the whole issue.

A bright spot for Canadians is consumer electronics, such as TVs and laptops, because the price difference between the two countries usually isn't significant, according to Christopher Bennett, spokesman for Best Buy Canada and Future Shop.

"It could be $50 more or it could be $50 less in Canada or the U.S.," Bennett said.

Technology is getting cheaper and being mass produced and is resulting in ever lower prices, he said from Vancouver.

"The up and downs every month of the dollar in the U.S. or Canada won't drive your excitement," Bennett said of consumers buying consumer electronics.

Meanwhile, Kothawala said there was "no question" Canadians would see a reduction in prices if import tariffs were removed.

"However, because of the time lag in the supply chain and the time it takes to place an order for products, that will not be able to happen overnight," she said.

Kothawala also noted that Canada retailers are typically charged more by multinational suppliers than their U.S. counterparts, making goods more expensive.

And, she added that Canadians shouldn't expect to see absolute parity on consumer goods even if tariffs are removed.

"Our fixed costs are in Canadian dollars — they're not coming down because the Canadian dollar has gone up," she said.

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MONTREAL - It's a fact of consumer life that buying in Canada means paying more than you would south of the border, with a so-called Canadian premium on everything from running shoes to hockey skates...
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kenl77
10:31 AM on 09/13/2011
"And, she added that Canadians shouldn't expect to see absolute parity on consumer goods even if tariffs are removed."

Absolutely not! There's no hope in hell that retailers pass on any "lower-tax savings" to consumers. Any such will simply be pocketed by the retailers
09:56 PM on 09/12/2011
I'm pretty sure EVERYTHING cost more in Canada vs. the US.
04:27 PM on 09/12/2011
People are also quick to forget the wage difference between the U.S. states vs our provinces. Everything is relative. Ontario's minimum wage is $10.25/hr, Michigans is $7.40/hr. Go to Minnesota and its $6.15/hr. of course alot of things are going to be cheaper. Canadians have been quick to point the finger and blame the retailer and government. Maybe everyone complaining should take a visit to Australia, where the minimum wage is NSW is AUD $15.00/hr. I am sure on your return trip, you'll never complain of Canadian prices again.
06:05 PM on 09/12/2011
Have you factored in the US income tax rate versus Canada??

At my bracket, the upper portion of my wage is taxed 39% just on income tax alone. Then we factor in the HST if we ever spend that money at all, which adds another 13%.. then there is property tax, CPP/EI(which i will probably never get back considering the deteriorating condition of the program and all the baby boomers getting old) this tax that tax, by the time you are done calculating, 50-60+% of my salary went into taxes
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oxjr
12:08 AM on 09/13/2011
Canadians do not pay much higher taxes than the average American. It is a myth.
http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/Do-Canadians-pay-taxes-investopediawp-3993417512.html

And Americans have to pay about $4000 or more to properly insure themselves on top of their taxes.
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William Muller
01:08 PM on 09/12/2011
Wouldn't it be easier to list the items that are cheaper here? Should take about 5 seconds.
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GeneralDisarray
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02:26 PM on 09/12/2011
d.umb de du.mb dum.b
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Whistlejackett
Hey stop doing that
12:35 PM on 09/12/2011
Canadians pay a lot less for health care and other necessities. The other stuff is crap
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Runey
religion is why we can't have nice things.
02:29 PM on 09/12/2011
depends what you mean by necessities.
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06:48 PM on 09/12/2011
The only reason we pay less for healthcare is because the govt controls it. When the "free market" is left in charge, price gouging happens. This is why 99.999999999% of consumer good are more expensive in Canada. They charge more because they can get away with it.
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AC Fraser
bend before you break
12:11 PM on 09/12/2011
How can this even be narrowed down? Canadians pay more for virtually every consumer good - from books to cars to Starbucks merchandise - even when the Canadian dollar is at parity or above.
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Jonny Boy
10:37 AM on 09/12/2011
Having moved from US to Canada recently I have to say almost everything is cheaper in US compare to Canada. Most items that I found are expensive in Canada are Booze (about 2-3 times higher), Gas price, Auto Insurance (almost 4 times higher). Seafoods (fish, lobester) and uncoocked fruits and vegetables are however cheaper in Canada than US and let's not forget the Health Care...
03:31 AM on 09/12/2011
The problem is that the stuff coming from Asia is junk, and not worth the money consumers are currently paying. There is zero quality control in production, and the market place could care less, they still charge an arm and leg. Basically they sell a $2.00 shirt made in China or India, for $25 and laugh all the way to the bank. If someone complains, they just give them another shirt!

The whole sense of quality has gone out the window. Canada, the UK, the US use to have a thriving textiel industry, and quality mattered. You would be properly fitted, shoes would be a precise size for your foot; not any longer; one has to live with utter crap.

Sad really, but blame it on the stupid corporations whose profit margins are way more important than quality and repsonsibility. Walmart and the like have destroyed North American textile industries.
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CarlyQ
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10:52 AM on 09/12/2011
And they disguise the poor quality by throwing out new styles/colours/bling/useless "must have" features correlating to when the items are scheduled to wear out - fooling the consumer into thinking it's about product updating when the consumer would have had to replace it soon anyway.

Worse, companies claim to be "green" while they're producing essentially disposable products.
02:08 AM on 09/12/2011
prices paid by the consumer will not go down if the tarrif is removed....just like consumer gas prices have not been lowered as barell prices fall. The bottom line is that corporations want greater profit margins, and Harper's government has no interest in the extraordinary added costs any item purchased in Canada has attached to it. I see no reason to pay more for the everyday junk I purchase, and do not feel that supporting Walmart and it's part time, minimum wage work force in Canada as opposed to across the border makes me a better Canadian or more socially responsible. If the product is made in Canada or the US, I have no issue paying retail. Otherwise, I will drive for American sale prices, followed by an American priced tank of gas any day.
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tokenblackman
11:55 PM on 09/11/2011
But where would you rather live right now?
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Louis Bernardi
I live in a treehouse!
10:22 PM on 09/11/2011
Everything's more expensive in Canada
03:32 AM on 09/12/2011
Including Government!
10:06 PM on 09/11/2011
Everything is cheaper in the U.S., including their principles.
09:33 PM on 09/11/2011
Nice try...I shop frequently across the border (I live in Vancouver) and everything and I mean "everything" is cheaper in the states. The only question is how much cheaper, that's all. The price gap on some items are sometimes staggering. For booze, we are talking Canada is 2.5-3.0 times more expensive. Even when we're talking the same store like Costco. Last week, I bought a Brita dispenser from Costco in Bellingham, WA for $US 18.99. Two days later I saw exactly the same dispenser at Superstore for CAD41!!! go figure!
One other thing to keep in mind, you get more variety South of the border. I don't mind paying 20% for Canadian goods but unfortunately, the difference is bigger than that for most goods.
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dread
09:02 PM on 09/11/2011
How about gas, comes from Canada and is cheaper in the US, cars and trucks made in Canada and sold cheaper in the US, Canadian lumber sold for less in the US, and on and on and on
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duwawu
08:31 PM on 09/11/2011
Almost everything in America is cheaper then in Canada
09:16 PM on 09/11/2011
Including life for the average joe!
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dtrobert
07:17 AM on 09/12/2011
Except health care, that is. And college education. Not small ticket items, those.
10:31 PM on 09/12/2011
That's why so many Americans opt out (by choice or not) of those two items.