Option Nationale: Quebec Sovereigntist Movement Fragments Further With Creation Of Another Party By Jean-Martin Aussant

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First Posted: 09/19/11 02:16 PM ET Updated: 11/19/11 05:12 AM ET

MONTREAL - The Quebec Liberals' slim four-seat majority will come under pressure this fall with an Opposition-led effort to weaken party unity during a corruption scandal.

Premier Jean Charest's opponents have made it clear they will seek to sow divisions in his famously tight-knit caucus as soon as the legislature resumes sitting on Tuesday.

Parti Quebecois Leader Pauline Marois announced she would immediately table a motion the following day calling for a public inquiry into corruption in the construction industry.

In essence, she encouraged a Liberal mutiny.

In a public message to Liberal backbenchers, Marois warned that they have two options: either protect the interests of Quebec voters, or those of the Mafia and the Liberal party.

Marois is challenging Charest to hold a free vote on her motion while also appealing to Liberal backbenchers to join the popular movement demanding an inquiry.

"I am asking Mr. Charest ... to act like a democrat, to liberate the Liberal members from the code of silence that he imposes on them," she told a Quebec City news conference.

"I am imploring the Liberal members: You have to act with full freedom."

Charest's Liberals have up to two years left in their mandate because they were re-elected in late 2008; but that term could be cut short if Charest's party, which has seen several senior members quit recently, loses more members and sees its majority disappear.

The premier appeared to have weathered the worst of the corruption scandals that have been raining down on his province over the last two years.

But his task was complicated last week when an explosive internal report by a government anti-collusion task force was leaked to the media.

It describes a "clandestine universe" well beyond the scale previously imagined, rife with corruption and ties between organized crime, the construction industry and political parties.

Charest has spent the last two years dismissing the need for a public inquiry, arguing that the matter was best left to police.

Last week's revelations were not enough to sway the premier. He brushed aside the idea of holding an inquiry even before having read the task force's report.

Despite his current woes, Charest won't be easily dislodged. His party has maintained near-total unity during eight turbulent years in power.

Chief Government Whip Lucie Charlebois said she doesn't expect that to change following the release of the corruption report.

She dismissed Marois's description of a caucus held in check only by Charest's iron fist. She said the premier allows disagreements behind closed doors, which she said makes it easier for members to toe the party line in public.

"We have our discussions in caucus, we have our exchanges in caucus, everybody has a chance to express their opinion," Charlebois said in a recent interview.

"When we finish our discussion it's like a family. A couple can't agree on everything but at a certain point you have to come to a consensus."

Currently the Liberals have 64 seats in the 125-seat legislature, though that includes speaker Jacques Chagnon who only votes in case of a tie. With one seat vacant, the most the opposition can must muster is 60 votes.

There's another, perhaps bigger, challenge for Marois: maintaining unity on her own benches.

Her troubles were underscored Monday when she called a news conference to attack Charest's troops — then cut it short after she faced two awkward questions about the PQ.

The province's sovereigntist movement continued to splinter Monday as a former Parti Quebecois member announced the creation of yet another political party.

With that gesture, the PQ's summer of discontent dragged on into fall. The PQ has been mired in existential debates since five high-profile members quit, ostensibly over Marois' handling of the Quebec City arena file.

Their move appeared to trigger a series of manifestos from sovereigntist fellow travellers calling for an overhaul of the independence project, and with it Quebec's entire political culture.

By the end of summer, around 400 disgruntled sovereigntists had gathered to form their own group, while criticizing the PQ and its leader. That group stopped short of turning itself into a distinct political party.

On the eve of the legislature's return, however, former PQ finance critic Jean-Martin Aussant announced he was forming his own political party, saying sovereigntist voters deserved a stronger vehicle.

"I came to the conclusion that another party was needed to send a clear message to Quebecers that we have to take our future in our hands, that we must become masters of our own destiny again," Aussant, a onetime rising star in the PQ, told a Quebec City news conference.

Aussant's party has been provisionally dubbed "Option nationale."

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Jack Canuckski
Canadian Observer of the passing scene
11:43 PM on 09/19/2011
As far as I'm concerned, the more the merrier.

As a left wing anglophone federalist Quebecker, its always been frustrating to me that elections in Quebec involved a center left Quebec nationalist party and a center right federalist party.

If a few more parties appear on the nationalist side, than perhaps it will be safe for a Quebec provincial NDP to rise without fear that splitting the federalist vote will give the victory to the separatists. I've beenb waiting to see this happen for a long time, and I had almost given up hope that it was possible, but now that hope is revived.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
11:09 PM on 09/19/2011
Jean Charest must really be enjoying his time.
10:40 PM on 09/19/2011
Vomit.
07:51 PM on 09/19/2011
Much of this goes back to Harper saying NO to the Quebec Arena, this sent a shock to the system, its like the first time a kid is told "no, they cant have some candy", temper tantrum and shock.

Just look at the irrational K beck behavior with NDP, Bloc, PQ, even the Liberals who should be at about 10% in the polls will likely get reelected when the vote is split between 6 or 7 parties.
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ethrop
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08:16 PM on 09/19/2011
Cretinous analysis.
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canadianperspective
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09:10 PM on 09/19/2011
Cretinous indeed. What can you expect from a guy that once posted that the Champlain Bridge was a French problem because it was designed by a French Architect, when it was actually an anglophone engineering firm who designed it...
Jack Canuckski
Canadian Observer of the passing scene
11:54 PM on 09/19/2011
Let'sKeepitSimple's analysis is Simplistic Nonsense. This is the result of years of frustration amongst Pequistes who have lost patience waiting for their independent Quebec.
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Jesse P. Steinberg
est un habitant.
07:43 PM on 09/19/2011
The sovereignists' should keep splitting the vote. All I know is, if they lose the next election they will blame the english for their problems and not each other.
Jack Canuckski
Canadian Observer of the passing scene
11:58 PM on 09/19/2011
The problem for the separatists is that even many nationalists have ambivalent feelings about Canada. On the one hand, they dream of an independent Quebec, on the other, they can't help feeling a certain measure of pride and attachment to Canada.
07:41 PM on 09/19/2011
In a public message to Liberal backbenchers, Marois warned that they have two options: either protect the interests of Quebec voters, or those of the Mafia and the Liberal party.

Simple choice, the Liberal Party
Jack Canuckski
Canadian Observer of the passing scene
12:00 AM on 09/20/2011
More nonsense. The Mafia has its tentacles in both major parties, and most likely in the Action Nationale as well..
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gx5000
Life's too short, be happy..
09:11 AM on 09/20/2011
Corruption knows not left or right...
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DidiM
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06:49 PM on 09/20/2011
My posts are being erased again!! What's going on moderator?? Muzzling our voices - the truth from being posted? That is NOT what Huff Post is about - and you know it.
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DidiM
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06:34 PM on 09/20/2011
There she goes - with the "Protect the interests of Quebec voters".. Utter bull - the same 40 year long - rant and rave - that really means - "Erase ALL Non Francophones Off the Quebeck map".. It's rah rah rah - for the illegal - illegally enacted - ethnic cleansing language loi's - and boot stomping Gestapo like - Language Police.. she's promoting. It's sheer evil 'HATE' Hitler style - she's preaching and that Charest & his French only PC Liberals are carrying out!
03:22 PM on 09/23/2011
Gross exageration.
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Steve Karmazenuk
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07:20 PM on 09/19/2011
I laughed when I read this...the separatist movement has become so fractured it cannot hope to be taken seriously anymore.
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canadianperspective
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05:09 PM on 09/19/2011
As a federalist quebecer, I sure hope that those in the ROC who wish separatists in Quebec to be imprisoned will reserve the same fate for some of their citizens when they create some kind of secession movement. These movements are alive and well in Newfoundland, Alberta and Ontario (see link below). Or will there be the inevitable double standard?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ontario#Secession_movement
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canadianperspective
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04:50 PM on 09/19/2011
As a federalist quebecer, this is good news for the country. Another separatist party that will split the vote of the separatist movement. The movement will never die, but will gradually fade. Look at what happened to the BQ. The PQ is looking at the same fate. Separatists are nervous.

Having said that, I think federalists still need to stay sharp and not fall asleep at the wheel.
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ljkcan
I don't let geographical borders limit my thinking
09:36 PM on 09/19/2011
Many years ago my son had to do a paper on his favourite relative and he picked my uncle in Montreal.

My uncle said " I an English and have been happily married to a French Canadian for over 40 years, and we get along because there are no politicians telling us who we should and should not like".

We need a strong federal leader who will inspire Canadians in every province to stand united and accept our differences not exploit them.
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canadianperspective
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10:02 PM on 09/19/2011
I agree. We had Jack Layton who I think embodied that spirit. We need more like him. At the end of the day, I think there is a lot more that unites us than that separates us. Aside from language, Quebecers and Canadians have much more in common than what the media is telling us.
03:25 PM on 09/23/2011
Well said. There are too many people playing up the French / English tensions for their own benefit. Don't believe the hype, people!
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Adrian31
60% of the time, it works everytime...
03:57 PM on 09/19/2011
Yada yada and the beat goes on...these clowns don't really want a sovereign Quebec because they know full well it'll NEVER happen. They just want to be involved in politics because they like the spotlight and then collect a lovely CANADIAN pension when they retire.
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valar84
04:19 PM on 09/19/2011
Québec opted out of the CPP and has its own pension, the Régie des Rentes du Québec. Furthermore, this politician in particular has never served in Ottawa, and thus any pension for his work as a Parliamentarian will only come from Québec City, not Ottawa.

So yeah, you fail, doubly.

What's worse is that you and a lot of Canadians just can't wrap your head about the fact that the sovereignist movement is truly based on principles, not mere desire for cash and fame. I guess it's true that we tend to project our own personality onto others.
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ljkcan
I don't let geographical borders limit my thinking
09:38 PM on 09/19/2011
You are right it is the QPP, in defense of the writer I think he was referring to Federal politicians from Quebec like the members of the BQ who get the hefty indexed federal pensions.
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notb observer
Technically it's a micro auto-bio...
11:10 PM on 09/19/2011
Actually, if you do the math you'll find that your own analysis misrepresents reality. If you consider the ratio of federal transfer payments to Quebec compared to its contribution, you'd realize that the province is (and has been for some time) a NET RECIPIENT of federal funds. In other words, the "richer" provinces (Alberta, BC and less and less Ontario) have been subsidizing Quebec. Quebec nationalists will deny this reality until they keel over, and never a word of this grim fact would ever be mentioned to the population. So whatever form the province's pension plan takes, it IS being subsidized by Canadians. As far as principles, you fail to appreciate the persistent propaganda campaign that has been waged in Quebec for decades and has created 2 generations of young people who cannot hope to find a job outside the province because they can't speak a word of English... The good news is that the younger generation is finally waking up to the sham. And ask Bouchard why he thought his kids should be educated in English in the US while the rest of the province didn't have the choice.
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ethrop
micro-bio-tic
04:23 PM on 09/19/2011
What pension? The one they paid for? A little education might do you some good.
03:02 PM on 09/19/2011
Quebec is like the Texas of Canada; rally and unify the troops around secessionist nonsense, knowing full well that it will never come to pass. And if it did, all that aid from the other states/provinces and federal gov't would disappear, and they'd be left high and dry looking for some preferential treatment from their neighbors.
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ethrop
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03:11 PM on 09/19/2011
Not quite, pickle. Quebec is a solidly social democrat province no matter where you stand on the separatist question. Ask Texas about that. Re: equalization payments, give it a rest. Quebec ranks behind four province for per capita benefits right ahead of Ontario. I don't hear you bitching against them... why not?
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04:00 PM on 09/19/2011
Nobody criticizes the other provinces who receive equalization payments for one main reason: They don't whine about every little thing, constantly demanding more and more. Have you ever heard of that saying "Don't bite the hand that feeds," Quebec needs to quit peeving off the rest of Canada, at least until they can support themselves.
07:47 PM on 09/19/2011
I guess because Ontario just started collecting and is collecting approx 3% of what Quebec is getting with a larger population. In additonal Qubeec rigs the standard of living calcs to get more.
Rents lower, electricity lower, more money worked under the table, restricted hours in retale(few jobs),$7 daycare, make for a higher standard of living relative to others based on similar earning nbrs
I see it, have lived in Quebec for 5 yrs, own a duplex and the rents are really low, my tenent(controlled by regis) pays $620 a month, 5 1/2 walk to metro. Similar in Toronto would be at least double. (lived in Toronto area for 20 years so I know and electrucutty double...
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Jon Jony
04:09 PM on 09/19/2011
Ummmm wrong...

Alberta is a better analogy..

and btw separatist sentiment is alive and well (unfortunately) in Quebec.. and it is foolhardy to dismiss the idea that it is unlikely that Quebec might separate (even in the near future).
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Jon Jony
04:12 PM on 09/19/2011
rather it is foolhardy to dismiss the idea that Quebec might separate...
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Shahanshah
Liberalism is destroying western civilization
02:57 PM on 09/19/2011
They should be imprisoned for advocating secession.

oh well, glad this sovereign garbage is dying once and for all.
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turkeylurky
Just keepin it real........
03:04 PM on 09/19/2011
It'll never die. Too much money to be made/extorted by keeping it alive..
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Jon Jony
04:10 PM on 09/19/2011
Well I do not know about never... but basically you are right... as long as some people can feed the beast - they will just keep doing it.
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Jon Jony
04:11 PM on 09/19/2011
its not dying... it is simply resting.
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gx5000
Life's too short, be happy..
09:23 AM on 09/20/2011
'it's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This party is no more!
It has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the parliament 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARTY