Canada Has Tools To Deal With Recession Says Central Bank Governor

Euro European Debt Crisis Imf Mark Carney

First Posted: 09/24/11 12:05 PM ET Updated: 11/24/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Canadian financial policy-makers ended two days of meetings Saturday expressing some confidence that European authorities have been seized with the urgency of resolving their sovereign debt crisis.

In a briefing with Canadian reporters, Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney said he was "somewhat encouraged" by the stance of European officials at the Washington meetings.

"There's some progress, but I repeat in the end it's about actions. Actions will have to be taken in a timely manner."

The central banker's remarks echoed those of International Monetary Fund managing director Christine Lagarde after the fund's policy-setting committee, of which Canada is a member, issued a new call to action on the European debt crisis and other challenges faced by the global economy.

The plans are there, she said, and the need now is for "implementation, implementation, implementation."

Carney made it clear that Europe's debt woes extend beyond Greece, a reference to debt overhangs that Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Italy also face. And he stressed that if those issues aren't resolved and quickly, the ensuing whirlwind hitting the global economy would be difficult to corral.

Canada — sound fundamentals, notwithstanding — would also feel the punch.

"In the absence of effective resolution (in Europe) one could expect a deterioration of financial conditions globally that would have spillover effects on major economies, including Canada," he said.

"The point is this is an addressable issue, they have the capacity, they have the resources," he said of the eurozone's 11-trillion euro economy.

Carney said earlier European authorities should put up close to one trillion euros into an emergency fund to keep the debt contagion from levelling European banks. That is more than twice the current 440-billion commitment — still unmet — made June 21 by the 17 nations in the grouping.

In part, the two days of meetings at the IMF and World Bank meetings were geared to convincing European leaders they need to move swiftly on approving and expanding the European Financial Stability Facility.

Many hope final ratification will be made before the next G20 leader's summit in November, and that this weekend's assurances will be enough to calm market jitters until that happens.

Already the markets have exhibited lack of confidence in policy-makers by dropping the value of equities about seven per cent in Toronto and New York last week.

Finance Minister Jim Flaherty, along with his U.S. counterpart and others, stressed the need to impress markets with their resolve by urging eurozone leaders to "overwhelm the problem" with a massive bailout fund, as the U.S. did in 2008 in passing the near US$750-billion rescue package known as TARP.

"They need to overwhelm the problem in order to get ahead of the markets," Flaherty said Friday night. "The sooner the better, uncertainty and delay are the enemies."

On Saturday, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner also urged European leaders to work with the European Central Bank to enhance the eurozone's emergency bailout fund, but gave no specific number.

Carney and Flaherty said they did not expect a recession in Canada, but admitted growth is already much slower than predicted earlier in the year, prospects going ahead are dimmer, and the risks are greatly elevated.

If the deterioration happens, Carney stressed Canada has the same tools it used in 2008 to keep the economy from tumbling too precipitously. Then the Bank of Canada dropped interest rates to virtually zero and injected liquidity into the system to ensure banks continued to lend. Ottawa passed a two-year stimulus program that it estimates, with provincial participation, pumped $60 billion into the economy.

"These tools are all there as options," he said. "The ability to keep core elements of the financial markets functioning is there if we were to need it. We're not in the situation at this point in time."

For his part, Flaherty said if the global situation deteriorates, "we'll be pragmatic and we have the flexibility to adapt," suggesting that Stimulus II is on reserve at Finance Canada.

That would scupper Ottawa's four-year deficit elimination plan, but Prime Minister Stephen Harper made clear in the past week that jobs are the government's top priority.

In her closing news conference, Lagarde also expressed some confidence that the Europeans understand what they must do.

"There was clearly common recognition," she said. "There was no denial, no fingerpointing. It was about support."

Asked if the emergency fund needed to be enlarged — although there was no mention of Carney's one trillion euro figure — Lagarde skirted the question, saying it was important as a first step that the 17 European countries already committed to the facility actually implement it.

The IMF committee's plan of action Saturday was a virtual copy in terms of specifics of the surprise G20 communique issued late Thursday night after ministers had met over dinner on the eve of the formal discussions.

It stressed that members have "agreed to act decisively to tackle the dangers confronting the global economy."

The communique continues to recommend that advanced economies adopt policies to bring their fiscal houses in order over the medium term, but leaves open that some further stimulus might been required in Europe and the U.S.

The IMF committee's chairman, Tharman Shanmugaratnam of Singapore, did not utter the word recession, but called the situation "grave." He said the global economy faces the prospect of a short-term shock due to the sovereign debt crisis, followed by longer term stagflation in advanced nations.

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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
10:20 PM on 09/25/2011
What are the tools Mr. Carney? Q'uest-ce que les outils M. Carney?
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
06:55 AM on 09/25/2011
Instead of throwing more money on the fire in an attempt to put it out, maybe its time to consider some radical ideas.I heard one economist on BNN talking about a "Global Reset". His point was so much of this wealth or debt is just numbers on a speadsheet. It has no physical proprties untill its printed on paper.Yet people around the world are made to prosper or suffer as these numbers are shifted from one balance sheet to another.We expect growth to save us from our economic malaise yet we know in our hearts that growth is going to be the end of us.This thing called capitalism appears to have run its course.Its worked great for the last couple of hundred years but its really showing its inability to provide solutions for a global economy that has evolved beyond anything the economic models of yesterday can factor.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
10:20 PM on 09/25/2011
Interesting comment.
12:47 AM on 09/25/2011
Can you "FAN" the HuffPost headline writer who wrote: "Canada Has Tools To Deal With Recession"? It perfectly the describes the tools in carge from the Bank of Canada Royal Governor who starts everyday with his Wall Street mantra "Screw the little people" to the Royal Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Prince of Royal Pork, ending with Steve, the Royal King of Canada. "There'll never be a Canadian recession. Federal deficits will never happen again. I won't abolish Income Trusts. Federal elections will only happen on fixed election dates." After these tools, I feel well screwed.
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01:11 AM on 09/25/2011
awesome.

well put.

f/f
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
12:38 AM on 09/25/2011
You really wonder if the European Union and common currency was the best decision. It's like the have and the have-not porvinces. Is there in the US the have and the have-not states? Maybe they should have been cut lose. you might not agree Obviously Canada kept it together since the haves are now almost the have nots and the nots are the haves. So no one should be calling the kettle black. Germany must be in a real quandry now.
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SimonLeigh
09:58 PM on 09/24/2011
Surely Canada will help in this huge crisis. Our economy is strong and we're supposed to be peacekeepers. If Europe collapses there'll be total war.
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mravka
The world has gone completely mad.
12:54 AM on 09/25/2011
Our economy is not strong, it's for the most part a resource and service based economy that's heavily dependent on exports. Exports which plummets the minute the global economy cools, let alone tanks.

What is strong, however, is our social safety-net and our relatively low debt to GDP ratio.

I'm inclined to agree with one thing; if the global economic and financial system isn't completely overhauled quite soon, we might once again be faced collapse and/or a general_senseless war.
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SimonLeigh
08:37 AM on 09/25/2011
If our economy's not strong, whose is? Our banks are not in danger of failing, which could happen in Greece, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, Spain--though not in Belgium, which luckily has no government. My point was that we have a responsibility to help, but you seem to disagree. Does anyone agree, or are we too worried the price of our gas might go up?
08:12 PM on 09/24/2011
Yes, Canada has the tools, but its likely that those tools will be used to benefit Bay St. while leaving the rest of the economy to wither away. We have been hearing from Ottawa since 2008 how strong the economy is, how the economy is growing.

Well, if you are in the financial sector your economy may be growing, but if you go out into the manufacturing sector or the service sector you will find nothing but stagnation or decline since 08. Just because the banks make so much money that it results in a overall growth in the economy does not equate to having a healthy economy
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
12:41 AM on 09/25/2011
Tim Horton's profits have surpassed their earlier records. True Walmart has declined. The banks have done very well. Manufacturing has lost out to foreign goods.
01:16 AM on 09/25/2011
True what you say about Timmy's, but they hardly reflect the state of the service sector and any gains they are making are only coming out of losses to others in the industry, not from greater discretionary spending among the public in general. What I have seen around me has been a steady erosion of jobs, good middle class jobs in particular. Whatever job losses in the manufacturing or resource sector have been made up, those jobs have been replaced by part time jobs at Tim Horton's.

Thanks for your feedback
04:46 PM on 09/24/2011
I am sure that the realization that serious economic problems lay ahead was the major reason harper engineered the election to occur when it did.
04:36 PM on 09/24/2011
Martin and Chretien were liberal communists that wanted more regulation and social spending because they believed people are best taken care of by the government instead of taking responsibility for our selves. And banks are businesses let them flourish or fail, keep government and God out of it.
04:51 PM on 09/24/2011
I couldn't have said it any better.
05:42 PM on 09/24/2011
And yet because of Martin and Chretien, Harper and his leprechaun were able to take credit for the semi-sound economy during the last recession.

I wonder why you are not attacking Harper for he is responsible for Canada's largest deficit. And, under his watch, he could have applied your "economic theories".
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Russg
08:10 PM on 09/24/2011
Let's face it.

You and Dragonwood are both complete cranks who throw out words like Marxist and Communist in every sentence without having any idea what those words actually mean.

So, in truth, I think you could have said it just as well.
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haddanuff
Progressives think 'We' while cons think "Me"
06:40 PM on 09/24/2011
And Canadians enjoyed the prosperity created by said liberals.
You are welcome to contact them and thank them personally.
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Lost Rights
Wine Glass Wealth Distribution, 20% have 82%.
04:27 PM on 09/24/2011
"finance ministers and central bankers from the world's big economies meeting here are trying to hammer the right policy mix to soothe markets and keep credit flowing in support of the economy."

Of course it is only the heads of the thieving firms figuring out how to extort more money from the taxpayers, so that Goldman Sucks wont lose too much. Just like Gietner did with his demand for more money for the IMF. Parasites, IMO.
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Lost Rights
Wine Glass Wealth Distribution, 20% have 82%.
04:24 PM on 09/24/2011
"U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Saturday morning that European leaders must work with the European Central Bank to enhance the eurozone's emergency bailout fund."

Does Timmy believe the same for US banks?
04:51 PM on 09/24/2011
Timmy is so stoned he don't know what day it is.
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patrickwwalker
09:18 PM on 09/24/2011
Wonder if that's why he forgot to pay his taxes when he was at the IMF? Too much coke and too many hookers?
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patrickwwalker
09:19 PM on 09/24/2011
Basically, translated into reality-speak, it's "governments need to soak their taxpayers to transfer funds to private bankers that made a mess of things at their end or else everything will explode." It's economic terrorism in a soft voice.
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Brian Novotny
What happened to Democracy?
03:22 PM on 09/24/2011
We have tools here in America too, and they are called the Tea Party, if you know what kind of tools I mean!
05:42 PM on 09/24/2011
Ours are the HarperCons...
02:02 PM on 09/24/2011
HARPER STOP SPENDING MONEY ON MILITARY .. USE IT ONLY TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS EG (ARCTIC) .. GET OUT OF FOREIGN COUTRIES NOW... OUR POOR TAX MONEY!!!
04:52 PM on 09/24/2011
LOL.
08:00 PM on 09/24/2011
Oh, come on now. If we don't spend untold billions (Harper never tells us what the true costs of his policies are) subsidizing the American MIC with our F-35 purchase we will be wide open to invasion. My God, without those fighters how could we ever hold off the only two nations with the resources to invade us? As long as we get those fighters we will be safe from the Russians and the Americans
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rickthaluddite
What noisy cats are we
01:38 PM on 09/24/2011
Thank God we had Paul Martin and Jean Chretien to regulate our banks before Harper got there.
01:59 PM on 09/24/2011
Now that's funny.

What regulations are you talking about?

How specifically are Canadian banks from American banks? Specifics please.

The only issue different in Canada are the continued low interest rates.

Once the rates rise, the Canadian banks will only be worth half of what they're worth today.

There is no private sector driving the economy.

The government and public sector handouts are driving the economy.
02:03 PM on 09/24/2011
by your tag name .. i suggest you go there
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rotary
canucklehead
02:30 PM on 09/24/2011
They operate slightly differently (Canadian parent company model vs US holding company model), but those differences weren't what saved them. Canadian banks held securitized assets but they all sold them off well before the real estate bubble burst, so they had much less exposure to subprime mortgages than those in America. Our banks also have a much lower leverage ratio, 18:1 vs 26:1. Canadian high risk mortgages are also backed by the Federal Government, so they're essentially risk free for our institutions.
annyp
A Canuck, eh!
09:53 PM on 09/24/2011
The banks were regulated back in the 1930's. Martin was one of the best finance ministers we ever had. Not such a great Prime Minister. I like the fact that Canada has a Finance Dept that looks after the finances of the country. I prefer to the US model.