Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver Chides European Union For Discrimination Against Alberta Oilsands Crude

Joe Oliver

First Posted: 10/23/11 02:27 PM ET Updated: 10/23/11 02:40 PM ET

OTTAWA - Canada's natural resources minister is taking the European Union to task over its proposal to discriminate against crude from the Alberta oilsands.

Joe Oliver has written to union energy commissioner Gunther Oettinger to complain about a plan to differentiate oilsands products from other sources of heavy crude.

The proposal stems from complaints that the oilsands have a greater greenhouse gas footprint than conventional production.

Oliver's letter says other oil sources produce the same or even greater amounts of greenhouse gases, but aren't singled out for special treatment.

He says discriminating against Canadian heavy crude could violate the European Union's international trade obligations.

Canadian exports of oilsands crude to Europe are low, but Oliver says he takes the proposed discrimination seriously.

In his letter, he says Canada is open about greenhouse gas production, while other countries hide or fudge their data.

"We object to being treated less favourably than other crude oil sources simply because Canadian industry provides more detailed data on oil sands emissions," he said in his letter.

"It is not sufficient for the European Union to fail to address these data issues and base its directive on incomplete information."

He said Europe should base its policies on scientific data and look at all its sources of heavy crude, not just oilsands production.

Oliver plans to speak to his European counterparts about the matter next week.

THE LETTER:

Dear Commissioner Oettinger:

I am writing to you regarding the proposed treatment of Canadian crude oil under the European Commission's proposed implementing measure for the Fuel Quality Directive (FQD).

The European Commission has recently proposed an implementing measure that differentiates oil sands crudes from all other sources of crude oil. Yet there has not been a comprehensive scientific study of the greenhouse gas (GHG) intensity of crude oils currently used in the European Union, some of which we know have similar or higher GHG emissions than oil sands crude. Any proposed implementing measure that provides separate, more onerous treatment for oil sands derived crude oil relative to other crude oils with similar or higher GHG emissions intensities is discriminatory, and potentially violates the European Union's international trade obligations.

The proposed implementing measure asserts that oil sands crude should be treated separately from other sources of crude oil because it is a different "feedstock". There is no credible scientific course that differentiates oil sands as a "separate feedstock" and such categorisation is unrelated to the GHG intensity of the crude - heavy crude is heavy crude. Rather than being a separate feedstock, oil sands crude is a heavy crude oil with GHG emissions and chemical properties similar to other heavy crudes found and produced throughout the world and currently used in Europe. Treating oil sands derived crude oil differently from other crude oils, based on anything other than actual GHG emissions intensity, does nothing to further the FQD's goal of reducing GHG emissions in fuels.

The credibility of the FDQ depends on the quality and reliability of its data on life cycle GHG emissions. However, not all sources of crude oil provide the same quality of data and transparency and countries that fail to provide such information are assumed to have low GHG emissions. As drafted, proposed implementing measure actually penalizes countries and companies that provide transparent, independently verifiable data. The proposed implementing measure therefore discourages less forthcoming sources of crude oil from providing better data or becoming more transparent. While Canada offers detailed data on GHG emissions from the production of crude oil, other oil producing countries often have less stringent oversight, are less transparent, or simply lack data concerning their oil sector's GHG emissions.

We object to being treated less favourably than other crude oil sources simply because Canadian industry provides more detailed data on oil sands emissions. It is not sufficient for the European Union to fail to address these data issues and base its directive on incomplete information. Furthermore, it is illogical for the European Union to defer any attempts to address these issues until 2015.

Canada believes that the proposed implementing measure is ineffective in meeting the FQD's policy goal and is discriminatory. Canada calls upon the European Union and its Member States to propose an effective implementing measure for the FQD, one which properly assesses all sources of crude oils used in Europe and ensures any differentiation is based on life-cycle GHG intensity.

Holding the third largest proven reserves in the world, Canada is a stable, reliable, democratic, and an environmentally responsible supplier of oil in a global market that is otherwise subject to a range of risks and uncertainties. Any policies that impede the free flow of global oil supplies are detrimental to our collective energy security. Implementation of the
current FQD proposal could have significant and unintended consequences to the world oil supply to the extent it introduces discriminatory and non-science based impediments to global energy markets.

Canada objects to policy measures that ignore evidence-based approaches to meet the stated goal of the FQD, in favour of what appears to be an asymmetrical and arbitrary proposal. If unjustified, discriminatory measures to implement the FQD are put in place, Canada will not hesitate to defend its interests.

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03:42 PM on 10/24/2011
I am trying to digest all of this. our oil is ethical in fort mac. but in the middle east it isnt because of government leaders. Our oil is tarry theirs is sweet. our natives are paying a price health wise and we as a nation are over in the middle east helping topple governments. We are telling the native people here get lost and we are killing men women and children(lets throw in the odd rape) there that they have to understand that killing a % of them is just collateral damage for their good. We pay 1.29 a litre and they pay 14 cents a litre. I am confused but i have a question. If for whatever reason we as a nation ever say no to certain countries that want our oil could we see our nation or leader go through what iraq and libya went through.God I hope not!!
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CarlyQ
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10:45 PM on 10/23/2011
He would be lying when he says other oil sources produce equal or greater amounts of greenhouse gases. There is no comparison.

And the environmental damage is out of this world.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
01:22 PM on 10/24/2011
Actually you would be lying.
Nigerian oil has a much higher carbon footprint because of the huge amounts of natural gas that they flare.
And that isn't the only one.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
07:22 PM on 10/24/2011
I'm Jack's inability to concentrate on Canada vs the EU.
10:13 PM on 10/23/2011
I don't get it. Would the EU prefer oil mined in politically and socially turbulent areas or places where the oil could cause even greater damage as a result of spills? Which I think that the States proved last summer does happen?
08:12 PM on 10/23/2011
So much misconception. Most Oils Sands are extracted underground now. The landscape is restored afterwards on he above ground extraction. Are The Euros more happy to get their oil from Nigeria, where there are reported to be 2000 spills dotting the country and all the natural gas that escapes is just burnt off? Maybe they like to get their oil from a country that executes apostates and forbids women from showing their faces? Maybe they prefer the oil from Sudan , that has a measurable mount of blood in each barrel due to Chinese backed ethnic warfare? No, let's go for the easy target, Alberta. A place where truck drivers earn 100K plus a year, a woman is the Mayor of the main municipality, the largest aboriginal employer in Canada by a large margin. You think a foreign oil worker in Saudi shares any of the wealth?

The Euros have their oil supply now that the drones took out Gaddaffi I suppose. Might as well try to shut the tar sands down.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
01:23 PM on 10/24/2011
Facts and science don't matter to emotional liberals.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
07:21 PM on 10/24/2011
I'm Jack's latest talking point
07:37 PM on 10/23/2011
Apparently the EU's main problem with the tar sands is carbon. Carbon dioxide is considered a greenhouse gas but it is a huge leap to think that any gas that is less than 400 parts per million can cause global warming. As much as the UN's IPCC would like everyone to think it does there has been virtually no global warming in the last 15 years and politicians and environmentalists now talk about climate change instead of global warming still hoping the public will link the cause to carbon dioxide.
Water vapor is the most prevalent greenhouse gas at about 96 percent and the sun provides almost all the heat on the surface of the earth. The IPCC computer models do not do water vapor or solar so the major factors of heat on the surface of the earth are ignored leading to inaccurate and misleading conclusions which have been sold as solid science.
Carbon dioxide is the greenest gas we have and without it there would be no life on earth. The Europeans (and everyone else) need to rethink their fixation with carbon (dioxide). Their cap and trade efforts have been a disaster. Maybe they should look after their own problems first.
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FearlessFreep
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10:07 PM on 10/23/2011
"There has been virtually no global warming in the last 15 years." Call it a matter of faith.
10:11 PM on 10/23/2011
From what I've heard from IPCC scientists,
1) They do account for water vapor, and it is one of the most important greenhouse gases.
2) The effect they worry about is a cascade effect: more heat trapped by CO2 means more heat to evaporate water, which will increase water vapor in the atmosphere, which will heat the planet etc.
3) Carbon dioxide is the trigger for this cascade.
4) Carbon dioxide is important because it blocks the right kind of rays in a way other greenhouse gases don't. It's not a matter of how much there is, but how well it heat the planet. It's like smoke. It doesn't matter that there is only a little bit of smoke in the room, you can see it. It obscures your vision a tiny bit.
5) This tiny change matters. The climate is a very delicate balance, and a tiny change, like a more smoky/CO2-ey atmosphere can change that balance for the worse.
6) Carbon dioxide is a naturally occuring greenhouse gas, and usually very helpful, but at the rate humans expell it, it has sped up it's natural fall and rise beyond what is natural.

As far as they see it, that's why carbon dioxide is a problem.

Do you think carbon dioxide will not have this kind of cascade effect?
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CanadaStan
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01:32 PM on 10/24/2011
The effect of C02 is logarithmic, and the level at which there is any apreciable effect from increasing it has long been passed.

Doubling it now would make no difference.
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BCSLAVE
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07:16 PM on 10/23/2011
"Canada objects to policy measures that ignore evidence-based approaches to meet the stated goal..."

I thought that was a plank of the Harper Government to ignore evidence-based approaches to policy.
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CanadaStan
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01:25 PM on 10/24/2011
Nigeria spills more oil than BP did, every year.
They flare so much natural gas that their oil has a higher carbon footprint than oil sands oil.

Now, the big question is, will you ignore these scientific facts?
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
07:25 PM on 10/24/2011
Canadians can't control Nigeria, only Canada. If the least you can do, you can't even do, then that is criminal against the environment. Please tell your supervisor that you need to try harder. Work on your rhetorical questions a bit more.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
06:22 PM on 10/23/2011
We don't even use this much ourselves. Tarsands production could stop tomorrow and 2/3rds of the country, from Ontario going East, don't even use the stuff.

Sure, it would cause economic hardship because of so much investment in its production, so it's not exactly viable but that's more reason to do something else and transition to something else more meaningful ie grid connected vehicles, and not be dependent on sludge. Or celebrate sludge or try to convince others that they should also love sludge.

We have to be able to look into a mirror. We are not having that conversation in Canada, it is illegal to talk sensibly and with rationality because Big Oil trumps ordinary Canadians.

Anything Europe can do for force that mirror is a good thing.
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10:08 PM on 10/23/2011
Fanned and faved.
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Maria Korovessis Sewell
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01:24 AM on 10/24/2011
F&F We really do need to have the conversation...
05:53 PM on 10/23/2011
There has never been a Canadian government so shadey, so unethical and so contrary to the interests of people in canada and throughout the world as the Harper government. Ethics commissioners have had to retire to speak out about the lack of ethics in the government, the problem of Tony Clement taking fifty million dollars to help his riding and the auditor general being unable to note this, the bullying of baird, the flying around the country in government jets to get to holiday destinations the horrific sale of our values to the highest builders. If christians are what Harper is then we have been seriously fooled. Harper steps on the press, Steps on rational ways to deal with crime and begins the descent into debt for military toys while refusing to pay for very earlky education which will further reduce crime and save money. I really want to cry every time I hear of yet another Harper government move. Mr.H I beg you read the New Testament and see that you should give to the poor, visit the sick and those who are in jail. As half the world lives in squalor with dirty water and little food, the Harper government is subsidizing the oil companies which are destroying Canada. And there is precious little in it for Canada since Mr. Harper wants to have the filthy, immoral oil refined in Texas. The pipeline will jeopordize the waters of the land it crosses.
HopeWFaith
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05:42 PM on 10/23/2011
Blight is too kind for describing the results we'll see if tar sand mining is continued.
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05:20 PM on 10/23/2011
Please read the article after this section. There is nothing clean about the tar sands. They will be the blight on Canada that Mountaintop removal mining is to the USA. It is a form of surface mining that requires the removal of the summit or summit ridge of a mountain in order to permit easier access to the coal seams. After the coal is extracted, the overburden (soil, lying above the economically desired resource) is either put back onto the ridge to approximate the mountain's original contours or dumped elsewhere, often in neighboring valleys destroying the ecosystem surrounding the mountain.

The water-based extraction process uses enormous water inputs, requiring between two and four barrels of water for each barrel of oil produced, according to Woynillowicz. The oil sands industry also uses large quantities of energy and produces massive amounts of waste water, known as “tailings.” Already, two toxic tailings dumps from Canadian oil sands mines are said to be visible from space with the naked eye.

http://www.worldwatch.org/node/4222
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CarlyQ
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10:48 PM on 10/23/2011
And yet...it's ethical.

Go figure.
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CanadaStan
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01:27 PM on 10/24/2011
Go look at the pictures of the reclaimed land...if you like facts...
04:23 PM on 10/23/2011
If the EU does not listen to reason,and implements a thoroughly discriminatory policy ,then Canada
has the right and the obligation to take them to task at the World Trade Organzation.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
06:16 PM on 10/23/2011
that's funny. You had me at "listen to reason".
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BCSLAVE
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07:29 PM on 10/23/2011
I didn't know that the Harper Reform Government believed in the WTO? Isn't that an alien organization?
01:31 PM on 10/24/2011
No, It's where all member nations go when they believe that a trade action is discriminatory, and should be changed.
04:20 PM on 10/23/2011
What did this Royal Merchant of Global Destruction do before this PR job for Big Oil? My guess - used car salesman because they are well-known for their ability to lie through their teeth to customers who are more vulernable to being ripped off. He obviously doesn't care about the 23 foot rise in world sea level when his CO2 melts the Greenland ice sheet - Alberta won't be flooded (but won't have any fresh water when the Rockies' glaciers all melt).

Dirty oil plus his royal government's policies to export death to the poor in third world countries while proclaiming asbestos is totally safe means that if the world's poor don't die of asbestosis, they'll drown - all thanks to Canada. Makes me sooooo proud to be a Canadian.I can hardly wait to hear what King Steve has found to kill more innocent poor people around the world - all for more profits for his corporate supporters.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
03:08 PM on 10/23/2011
"Canada will not hesitate to defend its interests"

what does that even mean? We will fight people? Harper's Government in Ottawa is utterly far gone to ever be reasoned with anyone based on science or environmental intentions. Delay and Deny. That's all we are now and all we aspire to ever be until Harper's Government is replaced.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
03:03 PM on 10/23/2011
It's tarsands. It's tar inside sand. It's not oil inside sand. Otherwise they'd not need to add more hydrocarbons to it in order to make it oil-like after boiling it out of the sand. Bitumen is brown clumpy goo and would be a more accurate description. Tar-ish.

But "Oilsands"? No, that's all about PR. Along with the "ethical oil" nonsense.

There are not enough resources left to use all the tarsands in Alberta. It's not about running out of oil. it's about running out of the ability to get to it.

Tarsands doesn't scale.

Europe is in a great position as they do not import any significant amounts. This sends a signal to investors to leave Alberta and is the only reason why Harper's Government in Ottawa gives a hoot.
03:11 PM on 10/23/2011
When I hear the Minister speak, it sounds just like an "ethical" oil lobbyist. I wonder if anyone has done any research into who is paying for all these Adverts about clean oil that Canadian's are subjected to and where they trace back to.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
03:35 PM on 10/23/2011
that apparently is an exercise left up to the reader, since we no longer have a media who used to do this sort of thing
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
03:39 PM on 10/23/2011
Don't have a TV anymore, so can you tell me more about their advertising? Also, are they on CTV affiliated stations, or is it everywhere? Cheers
08:38 PM on 10/23/2011
There are so many things wrong with your post I don't even know where to begin. You're like the far-left version of the far-right. You claim to know what you're talking about, but you have absolutely no idea. Here's a few in point form:

- Tar is not bitumen. They have two very distinct compositions. Just because two things look the same, that doesn't mean you call them the same thing. Chloroform is not water.
- Bitumen is not a brown, clumpy goo. It is black, smooth, and very viscous at room temperature.
- Bitumen is not boiled during upgrading. It is warmed and mixed with caustic.
- You don't "need" to add hydrogen to bitumen. One process of upgrading breaks down complex hydrocarbon chains into simpler ones, leaving behind coke (carbon) at the end. Another process adds hydrogen while cracking, so you're not left with the carbon.

You're here calling the term "oilsands" a PR campaign when, in fact, it is just simply the correct terminology. You call "ethical oil" nonsense, when it is well known what atrocities occur in many other oil-producing countries around the world.

It was depressing to read your post and realize that some people actually think what you do.
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CarlyQ
Without followers, evil cannot spread.
10:51 PM on 10/23/2011
Just because unethical atrocities are occurring in other oil-producing countries does not mean what's happening in Canada isn't unethical.
01:39 AM on 10/24/2011
I find the destruction of the environment and endangering the water supply of indigenous communities to be "unethical." Also there is no way the Tar Sands is a long term solution and replacement for foreign energy resources unless we figure out a way to lower energy usage while finding new and more efficient sources of energy.
02:56 PM on 10/23/2011
"Canada objects to policy measures that ignore evidence-based approaches." I applaud the sentiment and ideals of reason and science embedded in that statement, but it is very curious that some people (and political parties and governments) seem strangely incapable of seeing their own hypocrisies and the negative effects those hypocrisies have on the world taking their own 'noble' sentiments seriously.