Canada Gang Violence: Marijuana Legalization Would Curb Violence And Create New Revenue, Experts Say

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First Posted: 10/27/11 08:22 PM ET Updated: 10/27/11 08:48 PM ET

VANCOUVER - A new coalition of high-profile health, academic and justice experts is mounting a campaign to legalize and regulate marijuana in British Columbia, arguing the policy change would reduce gang violence and convert criminal profits into new tax revenues.

The push comes as the federal Conservative government moves to pass polar opposite legislation, an omnibus crime bill aiming to toughen penalties for drug traffickers along with other law-and-order measures.

Calling itself Stop the Violence BC, the group released it first report Thursday and is pledging to issue further scientific research, poll results and hold public forums in an effort to pressure politicians towards its cause.

"To continue the criminalization of marijuana is, I think, completely out of tune with what's going on in society today," Ross Lander, a former B.C. Supreme Court judge for decades, said in an interview.

"The coalition's objects meet what I would personally want, that is stop the useless killings and the violence that attends this drug trade."

The activist efforts are emerging from a province that's well-known for its underground marijuana-based economy. The coalition noted a recent estimate by the right-wing Fraser Institute that puts the value of the illegal cannabis market at upwards of $7 billion.

Members of the group have seen the deleterious effects of such organized crime up close in their jails, courts and hospitals. They include criminology professors, medical health officers, police and a retired RCMP Chief Superintendent.

The report, called Breaking the Silence, said the ban on marijuana has not only been a failure but it has spawned violence while making criminals rich. It points to scientific and public health research in proposing that lawmakers regulate pot under a public health framework.

Police officer David Bratzer, who's based in Victoria, said he believes prohibition is "well-intentioned.

"But my personal opinion is that it has failed in B.C. and around the world,” said Bratzer in the coalition's news release.

He said the huge criminal enterprise managing the drug trade becomes more dangerous each day.

"I strongly support controlled marijuana legalization as an effective way to fight crime and protect our communities."

The report was accompanied by an Angus Reid poll that found 87 per cent of British Columbians attribute gang violence to drug trafficking, in which groups fight over marijuana profits. The poll of 800 people was conducted online over three days in early September. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 per cent.

"The time has come for all politicians – municipal, provincial and federal – to say whether they agree with public opinion," said Dr. Evan Wood of the BC Centre for Excellence in HIV-AIDS in the news release.

He said politicians must "show real leadership" on the matter by acknowledging that marijuana prohibition is a key source of gang violence in B.C.

The federal ministry of justice, however, issued a brief statement saying the government has "no intention" to decriminalize or legalize marijuana. Instead, the government is continuing efforts under its national anti-drug strategy.

"Which focuses on prevention and access to treatment for those with drug dependencies, while at the same time getting tough on drug dealers and producers who threaten the safety of our youth and communities."

B.C. Attorney General Shirley Bond echoed the feds, saying such a proposal is not being considered by the province.

The report estimates there are about 430,000 cannabis users in B.C., with a much smaller fraction using harder drugs like heroin or cocaine.

It states that scientific literature shows criminalizing pot has had the same "unintended consequences" as alcohol prohibition in the U.S. in the 1920s. It notes an estimated $2.5 trillion has been spent by North American governments on the "war on drugs" over the last 40 years, yet the drug is still "readily available."

Further, the report describes the Vancouver murder of a notorious crime leader in a downtown nightclub in 1998 and says gang violence has only increased since that time.

A bloody gang war ravaged Vancouver streets in 2009, when 43 gang-related homicides were recorded. In the same year in B.C. there was also 276 drive-by shooting incidents, many of which occurred in public spaces. RCMP say such gangs have expanded their network from the Lower Mainland to other parts of the province.

The poll showed that only 12 per cent of British Columbians support keeping the current marijuana laws in place.

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11:07 AM on 10/31/2011
Humanity will not be denied.

The 'War on Drugs' is an abject, disgracefu­­l, obscene, self-right­­eous American instigated worldwide FAILURE.

Humanity will not be denied. Be it sex, drugs, or rock n roll. The 30+ year 'War on Drugs' is not working, will never work, is a complete and utter failure.

The misconceiv­­ed and fallacious American manifested 'War on Drugs' only serves the narrow morals of a repressed few, only serves to bolster and uphold American 'military might', and the trillions spent could have fed every man, woman, child, dog & cat on the face of planet 3 times over.

Humanity will NOT be denied. Prohibitio­­n, banning, outlawing, forbidding­­, only serves to drive the economics and consumptio­­n undergroun­­d.

Humanity will NOT be denied. The 'War on Drugs' has only brought increasing­­ly unwarrante­­d, excessive, disproport­­ionate violence to our countries, our cities, our streets, our homes, our families.

End the 'war'. End the 'prohibiti­­on'. Regulate, regulate, regulate.”
05:37 PM on 11/07/2011
Agree 100%. War on Poverty, War on Drugs, War on Terror, three abject, colossol, unbelievably expensive in all ways, failures.
LBJ destroyed the black family.
Bush's "Patriot Act" nearly destroyed what remains of the Constitution. Vietnam II and III are working out quite nicely.
War on Drugs just created more viscious, more efficient criminal gangs.

Legalize. Tax. Sell at specialized pharmacies. ALL drugs.
Abuse and addiction will probably decline. Tax revenues will increase. The drug gangs will find themselves high and dry.

Crazy idea.
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antipodal2u
Just say NO to hypocrisy
11:30 AM on 10/29/2011
Refreshing to see a country have an honest debate/conversation about marijuana. One can only hope its contagious
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08:23 PM on 10/28/2011
Unfortunately Harper's fundie supporters are incapable of comprehending rational arguments such as those presented in this article. Harper is probably smart enough to know that it's immoral to throw pot smokers into jail, but his political strategy necessitates draconian measures. The religious zealots who comprise Harper's base demand that "sinners" be dealt with harshly. Also, Harper wants to emulate the American private prison model, so he promotes laws that will ensure a thriving prison industry.
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EQ8Rhomes
07:56 PM on 10/28/2011
OK, it might reduce gang violence, but what else would legal pot do? Smoking is smoking, right?
Let's start with higher laundry bills....work-site injuries....
10:17 PM on 10/28/2011
"Smoking is smoking, right?"

No, it certainly isn't in the case of cannabis versus tobacco. Marijuana is relatively benign with no deaths attributed to it's consumption - quite unlike tobacco which is directly responsible for upwards of 400,000 deaths annually in the U.S. alone.

Annual deaths in the U.S.:

Cigarettes = 438,000
Alcohol = 21,000
Marijuana = 0

U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services, Center for Disease Control
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antipodal2u
Just say NO to hypocrisy
11:33 AM on 10/29/2011
(And the tobacco and pharma companies KNOW this hence lobby and bribe elected officials to keep it illegal)
10:17 PM on 10/28/2011
THC has been found to reduce tumor growth in common lung cancer by 50 percent and to significantly reduce the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University, who tested the chemical in both lab and mouse studies. The researchers suggest that THC might be used in a targeted fashion to treat lung cancer.
In 2006, Donald Tashkin, of the University of California in Los Angeles, presented the results of his study, Marijuana Use and Lung Cancer: Results of a Case-Control Study.
Tashkin found that smoking marijuana does not appear to increase the risk of lung cancer or head-and-neck malignancies, even among heavy users. The more tobacco a person smoked, the greater their risk of developing lung cancer and other cancers of the head and neck. But people who smoked more marijuana were not at increased risk compared with people who smoked less and people who didn’t smoke at all. Marijuana use was associated with cancer risk ratios below 1.0, indicating that a history of marijuana smoking had no effect on the risk for respiratory cancers. In contrast, tobacco smoking had a 21-fold risk for cancer.
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marijobama
Prohibition is NOT an enumerated power.
10:39 AM on 10/28/2011
It looks like the Canadian politicians have been bought off by the same special interest groups that OWN the US government. As long as special interests can buy the votes they need to keep it illegal, it will be.
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Jay from Ottawa
sovereignty sale, 1.3T OBO
10:04 AM on 10/28/2011
Nice read, but we all know our cons are unphased by reality and common sense.

Cannabis related crime will likely make up the majority of our free labour in our new upcoming prison system, no way the Harper cons will give up free labour.

My friends dad was a Liberal MP who switched floors to the Conservatives when the Liberals were defeated. A conservative representative went to their house when he crossed the floor to 'welcome' them to conservatism. One of the things that made adamant, is that Cannabis would NEVER - EVER - EVER be legalized under a Harper government.

The guy's a giant tool, which makes me wonder how his MPs feel, being the tools of tools.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
10:35 AM on 10/28/2011
Emerson huh?
09:46 AM on 10/28/2011
Love it. Stop gang violence by keeping everyone stoned all the time. How absolutely Brave New Worldish!
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
10:37 AM on 10/28/2011
one of the reasons for the anti-drug hysteria generated during the Nixon era was because pot and other drugs 'opened minds' and helped people think for themselves; THAT is why they were clamped down on. Better to keep them all drunk, and sketched on nicotine, and boob-tube TV....much more easy to manipulate.
12:39 PM on 10/28/2011
With all due respect, I know and have known plenty of people who've let marijuana and other drugs play a big part in their lives, and I don't see anything that suggests their minds are more open than anyone else's mind. A little slower, perhaps, but that is another story.
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antipodal2u
Just say NO to hypocrisy
11:34 AM on 10/29/2011
All the while the cia under nixon was smuggling heroin in the bodybags of deceased vietnam soldiers. Talk about insult to injury
09:09 AM on 10/28/2011
Legalize, regulate but not just in BC.
If you do that, BC will become the base of operations and will be the only one to benefit from revenues.
Do this for the entire country and just watch what happens to tourism.

PS If this has a chance of happening, invest in poutine futures.
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EQ8Rhomes
08:00 PM on 10/28/2011
Want more tourists? Think of very popular tourist spots... better, visit one outside of resorts.
08:09 AM on 10/28/2011
Give me a break. We have known this for decades but logic apparently does not have a place in politics. Try some fear mongering! That will get you places!
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anugs
08:05 AM on 10/28/2011
Decriminalize it, regulate it and tax it. The Government will have a gold mine, just like tobacco and alcohol. The worst thing that can happen, if they smoke responsibly, is over eating and a weight problem from a munchie attack.
12:31 AM on 10/30/2011
The junk food lobby should be in on this!!!!
06:14 AM on 10/28/2011
If it is your main goal to seriously reduce gang violence one should investigate what percentage of the illegal drug market is weed. If weed is the prime revenue generator, then legalization become a very real solution option.

Weed is pretty low on the harmful drug list, but if it is NOT a prime driver of profits for gangs and we move to completely sanction weed drug use in our society will it result in the mere downsizing of gangs on temporary basis? I believe organized crime groups are not stupid and when faced with losing their weed market they will move to expand to more harmful drugs. They are business people too and no business will give up revenue without a fight.

I have no doubt that regulations on weed are going to be reduced over time, but to completely legalize weed is new line in the sand that has to be seriously thought through.
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Add In Canadia
Egotism is a weakness
06:34 AM on 10/28/2011
So you say that weed is NOT a prime driver of profits for gangs, and then you don't state what is? This isn't to mention the 'hard' drug market is a lot smaller than the one for weed. You can't blindly assume that every weed smoker is a meth or crack user as well, it's an absurd assumption. The gangs fill the demand for pot that isn't met by any other form. The demand for weed is far, far higher than any other illegal substance.

The main reason why weed is so prevalent is because of it's harmless reputation. All efforts to demonize it have failed, all efforts to illegalize it have failed. What are gangs going to do to replace the weed revenue? There's no way for them to do it. When people learn about the permanent damage other hard drugs can do most avoid it. People know that weed is typically harmless and even has medicinal uses so they are more inclined to try it.

Incidentally, it is joked now and then that the weed market in BC is bigger than the lumber industry there; that in fact that it is BC's largest economy, bringing in a lot of money into the province yet none of it is taxed because none of it is legal.
07:44 AM on 10/28/2011
You said:
So you say that weed is NOT a prime driver of profits for gangs.

I did not say that, you forgot my "IF"

I also never said "You can't blindly assume that every weed smoker is a meth or crack user as well, it's an absurd assumption­."

My comment was based on the article subject that legalizing weed would reduce gang violence. My argument is you have to see how much money is involved in the weed market relative to the total illegal drug market. Legalization may or may not be a good idea if your goal is to reduce gang violence.

IF weed sales are a prime driver of gang violence, then a argument can be made for legalization.

IF not legalization might not yield a meaningful reduction in gang violence.
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antipodal2u
Just say NO to hypocrisy
11:37 AM on 10/29/2011
Theyve been doing studies and 'thinking it through' for the last 4 decades. Enough with the BS
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mbazid
Just smile and nod
05:48 AM on 10/28/2011
Politicians are too cowardly to admit that they are wrong regarding prohibition and too narrow minded to admit that their policies are a wast of time and resources.
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mbazid
Just smile and nod
06:27 AM on 10/28/2011
oops "waste" not wast.
05:35 AM on 10/28/2011
There is absolutely no way that the U.S. will allow for Canada to legalize weed. Admittedly, having our religiously zealous national leader with a majority will ensure much more 'co-operation' with U.S. drug enforcement, but even without that cosiness, you can be sure that whatever drug legalization efforts may turn up in the various provinces it would be squashed like so many bugs by our #1 trading partner.

Obviously the BC attorney general is none too keen to be squashed like a bug, which may explain why the province is so quick to fall in line.

Just as the former Mexican president's plea to have the U.S. legalize drugs (Vincente Fox) falls on puritanical ears, so too will any effort to legalize weed up North.
04:09 AM on 10/28/2011
If we are dissatisfied with the policies rammed down our throats then go and vote! Why this short sighted, narrow minded, lobbyists wet dream is still the leader of this country is a direct result of people thinking that their vote doesn't make a difference, or that "all politicians are corrupt anyway" Get yourself educated on your representation, and make your existence count in the polls. In other countries people are willing to risk their lives to be counted as "just one".
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Nick Hatch
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
03:51 AM on 10/28/2011
Why we spend government resources fighting a drug that is less harmful than caffeine is beyond me.