Occupy Vancouver Protesters Want To Stay Despite Death, Safety Issues; Occupy Victoria Given Boot

Occupy Vancouver

First Posted: 11/06/11 04:28 PM ET Updated: 11/07/11 04:56 PM ET

VANCOUVER - Officials at the cities of Vancouver and Victoria have reached the end of their patience with Occupy protesters, but each city is trying a dramatically different tact to clear the Occupy sites.

Victoria issued official notice to protesters Sunday telling them they had until noon Monday to clear out, and that the occupation conflicts with other planned events.

"The city appreciates you vacating the lawn around the Sequoia tree to permit preparation for the traditional tree lighting," the notice states.

"Holding demonstrations and other events without a permit and erecting tents and other structures in Centennial Square contravenes the city's Parks Regulation Bylaw," the notice said.

In Vancouver, city officials are hoping to negotiate an end to the occupation.

The camping can't continue, Vancouver City manager Penny Ballem told reporters in front of City Hall.

"Given the situation that we have had a death, a very tragic death ... which I think really shook everybody up, we need to move in an expediting way to remove the part of this protest that is presenting a life-safety risk."

The body of 23-year-old Ashlie Gough of Victoria was found in one of the tents on Saturday afternoon.

The BC Coroners Service said it won't speculate on a cause of death, although there is no suggestion that the death is suspicious.

Ballem said Thursday's near death of a young man from a drug overdose and Saturday's death is what set Mayor Gregor Robertson towards finding a peaceful end to the encampment.

"We think there will be co-operation," she said.

But that wasn't as clear back at the anti-capitalism protest site in Vancouver, where the group's spokesman Eric Hamilton-Smith was hoping a judge would refuse to issue a court injunction to remove protesters.

"It's not enough to overrule our Charter rights of political expression and peaceful assembly, it is not enough just to have one person who died," Hamilton-Smith said.

"It is not enough to have one person who died," he said. "People die everyday in the (Vancouver's) Downtown Eastside and nobody cares."

He wanted a judge to instead look at the safety changes they had made and refuse the city's request to shut down the Occupy site.

Ballem said any changes, including erecting new tents, would violate an agreement the city already had with protesters.

Hamilton-Smith said they planned on putting up new geodesic tents, with fire-resistant tarps, that would comply with fire-safety standards issued by the city's fire department.

At one entrance to the Vancouver Occupy site was a growing shrine to the young woman who died. A hastily-made wooden cross reading "RIP Ashlie" was surrounded by flowers, stuffed animals and lighted candles.

One man yelled at reporters and camera people to get away and stop taking video.

"We've just lost our sister," he said. "Leave us alone."

If negotiations fail with the Vancouver protesters, Ballem said the city could ask a court for an injunction under several legal frameworks including the fire or land use bylaws or the Trespass and Public Health Act.

"We would like to find a situation where we can actually continue to support this protest, but not support an encampment," she said, noting the City of Vancouver has long supported the right to protest and for people to gather peacefully.

She said they could ask for the injunction as early as this week.

Several other occupy protests around the world have ended in violence including in the United States, Australia and Italy.

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06:57 PM on 11/07/2011
Isn't Canada, with its nationalized health care and stabilized financial system, being held up as an example for the US to follow...why is there an Occupy movement in Vancouver then?

Next question: why is this site so hesitant to say "suspected heroin overdose"?
01:08 AM on 11/08/2011
YOU ARE HERE BECAUSE YOU ARE PAID TO POST LIES SMEAR JOBS AND PROPAGANDA AGAINST OWS....99.999% ARE PEACEFUL EDUCATED FOLK FIGHTING A CORRUPT CRIMINAL SYSTEM. YOU GUYS ARE GOING DOWN.
03:58 PM on 11/08/2011
"You guys are going down"

Yeah..that sounds real "peaceful".
Could you perhaps talk to one of the educated folk before posting next time?
06:44 PM on 11/07/2011
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
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10:32 AM on 11/07/2011
Those libral canadians are closing down the squatters, eh?
hatenomor
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11:12 AM on 11/07/2011
Yep. Just like here in America, where the democratic party supported public sector union thugs (police) are are busting up these Flea Bagger Rallies all across the nation.
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10:53 PM on 11/06/2011
Thee people are having a rainbow gathering. Maybe just take it out to Crown Land?
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01:33 AM on 11/07/2011
Actually in Vancouver the art gallery where the occupy protest is happening is crown land. Also it is Salish first nations land.
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10:04 AM on 11/08/2011
Hunh. Well there you go...

Keep on keepin on...
06:34 PM on 11/06/2011
Obama has finally made an appearance at OWS in effigy form.
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670 Economists(6 w/ Nobel Prize) like Mitt's plan
10:00 PM on 11/06/2011
Where?
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06:29 PM on 11/06/2011
Unless Occupy Victoria protesters voluntarily move out of Centennial Square in the next few days, the city will seek a court injunction ordering the protest camp to leave, says Mayor Dean Fortin.
And if the injunction is granted and ignored, the city then has the right to send in police to arrest and remove the protesters, Fortin said on Friday. An injunction is an application to the BC Supreme Court for a court order to remove tents and other structures and objects.
Fortin said police cannot legally step in forcibly to move the 50 to 60 tent camp until an injunction is granted and served to the protesters -- something he says can take several days or weeks even though the city wants them out before in time to set up Christmas decorations and a public ice rink before the annual Santa Claus parade on Nov. 26.
However, he “hopes” the city and People’s Assembly of Victoria organizers behind Occupy Victoria “arrive at some sort of peaceful resolution through negotiation” before the city is forced to go the injunction route.
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06:10 PM on 11/06/2011
Governments are PART of the whole Financial/Political mess the world is in. They still don't get it! People are sick to death of being trampled on, ignored, taxed without real representation ( most of us don't want $145 Billion spent on military armaments in the coming decade) axed, unemployed or underemployed on starvation wages. The rest of us have had it with the 1% - they better smarten up while they still have some time left!
We have starving Canadians and children which is an obscenity in the richest country in the world. We have become a subservient cow following every dictat of the American military/industrial complex, Harper is a puppet as well as a fascist. We are no longer peace keepers we are now simply American wannabe war-mongers! Authorities can either learn to accept peaceful occupations and demonstrations AND meaningful CHANGE - or they may end up like Greece. It is their choice. There are a lot more of us who back the occupations than there are charlatans in power.
05:58 PM on 11/06/2011
This is no longer a protest. It has become a dirty, filthy, smelly, blight on downtown Vancouver. Lets shut it down and send the druggies on their way. When you were protesting we were with you. Now that you have disgraced yourselves with a drug overdoses, a drug death, and your filthy tents, it is no longer tolerable. On your way people. That square belongs to ALL of us.
05:01 PM on 11/06/2011
I agree with the protests, but I can see that the O'D death and the way it can be used in negative propaganda, along with the real fear of a rightwing victory in municipal elections creates serious problems for the encampment movement locally. The issue is global, since the corrupt disaster economic system is operating everywhere, but its applicability to local areas is sometimes hard to explain, especially when issues such as these crop up.
09:39 PM on 11/06/2011
I agree that it will be used as propaganda, however it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look up statistics and find out that one person on average in Vancouver dies every week of a drug overdose. Secondly, a number of people heading to OVAG are homeless and drug addicted, drawn by the security of the site, food and the general support. The organizers consider them part of the 99% as they well should and are hard pressed to turn them away. Too bad the media isn't interested in the weekly deaths on the east side due to drug overdoses, let alone HIV, Hepatitis, etc.