Occupy Movement: Vincent Mosco, Queen's University Professor, Calls Movement Most Important In Generations

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First Posted: 11/16/11 05:32 PM ET Updated: 11/16/11 10:46 PM ET

TORONTO - The Occupy protest is the most important democratic social movement of the last two generations and demonstrators who have taken over parks and other public spaces should be left alone, an expert in social movements said Wednesday.

As civic authorities across Canada and the U.S. move to end the various occupations, Vincent Mosco, professor emeritus of sociology at Queen's University, said the "extraordinary" movement had created a rarely seen coalition.

"When you see trade unionists, students, minority groups and others coming together, locking arms across sites in North America, what we have here is something unprecedented — at least in recent memory," Mosco said from Ottawa.

"It's everywhere — not just in large cities, but in small towns throughout Canada, the United States, Europe and elsewhere."

Mosco's study of social movements began outside the Pentagon in 1967 when 100,000 anti-Vietnam War protesters began changing the course of history.

Back in the 1970s, he said, construction workers beat up anti-war students in the streets of New York City.

More recently, construction workers went with their own protest signs and joined the Occupy Wall Street demonstration in Zuccotti Park.

Earlier this week, authorities cleared the Manhattan plaza, saying the protesters who spawned the global movement in September could return, but without tents or sleeping bags.

In Canada, authorities in several cities have already ended their occupations, while others are pushing to do so.

Lawyers for the city went to B.C. Supreme Court on Wednesday seeking an injunction against protesters ensconced outside the Vancouver Art Gallery.

Ben Parkin, a lawyer for the city, told Associate Chief Justice Anne MacKenzie that Occupy Vancouver is in breach of the land-regulation bylaw and said the protesters are trespassing.

"There's no dispute people have erected structures ... on the property," Parkin said. "(There's) no issue on the basic facts there is a breach."

In Toronto, the courts will hear a constitutional challenge to municipal bylaws on Friday as the city presses to evict Occupy Toronto participants from the downtown park that turned functioning mini-village after it sprang up with a few tents Oct. 15.

In Calgary, where two people were hurt in a tent fire at the Occupy site early Wednesday, protesters were under orders to leave immediately, but there was no immediate indication of compliance or enforcement.

Regina police and city bylaw officials cleared the last tents from Victoria Park early Wednesday after earlier ticketing the two remaining occupants.

In all cases, civic authorities complained the protesters were in violation of bylaws in taking over public spaces.

But Mosco, who has visited the protest sites in New York, Vancouver and Ottawa, sees it very differently.

While public areas are being "contested" everywhere, he said, most of the disruption has been the "private invasion" of such places.

"We're observing a process of commercializing and privatizing public space, and we should be outraged by it," Mosco said.

"But we don't hear about limits on public space until a genuine public movement raising significant political issues decides to make use of public space."

Mosco said he believed the movement would survive because of its significance, even if protesters end up evicted from their last remaining strongholds.

Most likely, he said, the protests would simply pop up again, either in the same places or in new ones.

At their heart, the protests around the world have taken aim at the growing gap between rich and poor.

No matter what happens, Mosco said they have already made people pay attention to issues of wealth distribution and democracy.

"That they've sparked debate is an indication that they've already succeeded," Mosco said.

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On Nov. 23, Toronto police entered a park to begin removing tents and other structures used by Canada's largest Occupy protest. Officers began to ring St. James Park just after 5:30 a.m. to begin an operation to clear out remnants of the protest that began last month

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05:42 PM on 11/17/2011
Honestly, I am laughing at the commenter's here that are desperately trying to justify OWS in Canada. But you can't justify the Occupy movement in Canada, it's a complete joke. The Occupy movement in America makes sense - they have deep problems with corporate taxes and banking regulations. But in Canada? One of the reasons why we survived the initial recession so well was because of our banking regulations.

The Prof from Queens should not be romanticizing this movement at all - I have said this multiple times: These protestors have nothing positive to contribute, they are a bunch of idealistic hippies, with a grudge against capitalism. And looking at the events in Occupy Vancouver, and Occupy London (Ont). A significant portion of them seem to have a drug problem. Seriously, what do they hope to change by champing outside?

Moreover, why are some of them wearing the Anonymous masks? Anonymous has threatened to commit terrorism by launching a cyber attack Toronto. Shame on those people that wear that mask.

Anyways, that is my rant. Thank you for reading.
05:22 AM on 11/18/2011
My question to you is...Why does the pablum taste good to you and not to the rest of us? You think OWS has no merit in Canada? I call BS. Harper is the worst offender of understanding what a human being stands for and needs.
Newsflash to you buddy.....Canada has problems and you, as a Conservative, are clueless as usual. Call me when you have an open mind.
04:00 PM on 11/18/2011
Your calling me close minded because I come from a different perspective? You sounded a little close minded yourself their.
10:23 AM on 11/18/2011
You don't get it friend howcome, its obvious you can read. Canada is in much deeper water than USA and its not all about money. Our planet is in danger of becoming one vast mine belching smoke and choking the crows and Canada, with Wall Street help is looking more and more like a slag heap. Thank you for reading my rant.
Oh Canada Awake
03:52 PM on 11/18/2011
I disagree.
05:15 PM on 11/17/2011
The truth is crying out
And it's so loud and so clear
But most people won't even hear
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greysells2
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11:43 AM on 11/17/2011
This Occupy protest resonates with many, many people. The vast majority of people are angry and frustrated with the widespead abuse of political, institutional and economic power by the priviledged few at the expense of ordinary people. The Occupy Movement does not exactly what to do yet but they are tapping into a wellspring of powerful emotional support that is saying "ENOUGH". What the Occupiers do know how to do is use the internet, mobile phone technology and the social media for extremely effective messaging and the documentation of public demonstrations to protect themselves from institutional attacks from the police and biased messaging from the media. What the Occupiers know is how to equalize the social portest by decentralizing their own movement. This prevents the powerful forces who want to keep the goodies of the system to themselves from picking off the leadership and making an example of them to scare the others.
11:58 PM on 11/17/2011
"expense of ordinary people" Expense? What exactly is that expense? How does Joe Blow's ability to make a profit for himself and whoever he CHOOSES to share it with come at an expense of me? Or anyone? I'm far from rich but also far from being exploited by those who are. The problem with this movement is that it's mostly based on envy, which is very closely related to greed. What can be more greedy than wanting what is not yours or that you did not earn?! Much energy is being wasted on complaining about what some PERCEIVE as being wrong with life and not on actually creating something new. (Wealth redistribution and Marxism are not new)

"Ordinary people"? Who is ordinary? Who is privileged? Once again I'm far from being wealthy in terms of money and yet I'm so damned privileged and wealth in things that truly matter. This protest at it's core seems to be about money. We are left with the question: who's more obsessed with it, the wealthy or the occupiers??
10:27 AM on 11/18/2011
Dear Comfortable,
Well done on your success. Our movement lacks a certain savoir faire no? But we understand something you missed, our lifestyles are lousy and uncaring as any commercial will show you. Don't be fooled amigo!
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Creox
Life is too important to take seriously.
11:33 AM on 11/17/2011
Most people who dont understand or oppose OWS are mostly scared of change and what that means to their own standard of living.

I can't blame them for being shortsighted as that is how most of us look at the world. Doesn't make them right though.

Try to look forward if the status quo is maintained though and you will see your standard of living going down the drain regardless.

Fight for your future and get your head out of the TV guide.
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montezaro
10:29 AM on 11/17/2011
Free handouts from hard working Canadians??? And who got the biggest handouts ever? If you don't remember - banks and corporations.
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Jeffery Cuneo
11:18 AM on 11/17/2011
Corporations stand to get another handout in the form of a huge tax break once again. The tories made a HUGE deal about cutting the GST 2% over the span of years, yet in one budget they are giving corporations - already the lowest taxed of any G8 country, another 5% tax break that will remove 2 billion from the federal budget.

It's insane. Good on these protestors for doing more then I am in the face of such greed, corruption and inequality.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
11:43 PM on 11/17/2011
The autoworkers were huge benificiaries of the bailouts, and the occupy loons march hnad in hand with them.
It's absurd.
05:27 AM on 11/18/2011
Your'e right. The handouts should not have been supported by the Government. Harper is such a fascist leader and we all are disturbed by it.

OTOH, workers should not pay for bad business practices.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
09:36 AM on 11/17/2011
I have said it before and I will say it again. Since when do local by-laws overrule the Charter of Rights and Freedoms? All freedom-loving Canadians, even those who oppose what the occupation movement stands for, should be shouting in unison their absolute outrage that our rights are being trampled in the name of local ordinances. It is a travesty, and I have only contempt for those who endorse it.
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shewolf2002
EDUCATION is a national security issue.
09:09 AM on 11/17/2011
Nice article. Wish it was on the US version of Huffpo (hint, hint).
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gravescanada
07:31 AM on 11/17/2011
Freedom of speech...wow how we say we protect it. All I see are a bunch of citizens, protesting a system that keeps the wealthy, wealthy, and the poor well, poor. I am so sick and tired of conservatives whining about OWS wanting handouts. Handouts....money for nothing. So, exactly what did we give to the Banks, and Wall Street as well as Big Business in the form of tax cuts? THOSE ARE HANDOUTS! Corporate World has so many of you all twisted up inside, because "hey, screw the other guy, as long as I don't fall further down the economic ladder." See its like a shell game. They tell you if you play by the rules and follow the cups, you will get wealthier, but in the end, they already took your prize. There is nothing under any of the cups.
07:28 AM on 11/17/2011
What is it with those four "ethnic" masks? nada Why are they hiding their true identities? Are they hiding their true feelings, are they afraid to be IDd? I hate it when people do this on TV or any media. If you're going to say something, and pose for the camera don't hide--freedom of speech.

I think if the government of Canada and USA listened to the protests on the first day, heeded the message, and realized that more than 50% of the country is suffering financially...it wouldn't have gone this long. Come on you two, listen up and create and action to secure the financial future of the more than 50% of the population.
09:10 AM on 11/17/2011
The masks are from the movie V for Vendetta representing anonymous social uprising.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
09:37 AM on 11/17/2011
Because in a corrupt society where our rights are trampled upon we MUST identify ourselves for retribution???
10:41 AM on 11/17/2011
People who face off see each other's faces. This isn't a war or battle where you should where protection. Not showing your face would mean that you're afraid that when this is all over, and by showing your face, they know who you are and someone will seek revenge against you.

When you're doing the right thing, what do you have to be afraid of? This is all I'm thinking about. Good luck to the protesters.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
10:50 AM on 11/17/2011
Uh, you are clueless if you believe that. Scott Olsen is still in the hospital from the would he suffered at the hands of the police. Thousands of Americans have been pepper-sprayed already (which masks can protect against). The police swing their hard batons with great abandon in video after video I have seen. If you don't think this is a war you really do not understand what is happening. Maybe one day you will figure it out, and probably feel stupid that it took you so long.
07:26 AM on 11/17/2011
Quoting "When you see trade unionists, students, minority groups and others coming together, locking arms across sites in North America, what we have here is something unprecedented — at least in recent memory," This is what scares the power structure, they will no longer be able to exert control and will lose their economic power as well. So we should expect them to use all means (..and I mean all means) to surpress OWS.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
09:39 AM on 11/17/2011
Yes, and this is why the movement has no leaders and refuses to define a list of goals for the establishment. With details comes division, so we keep things general and focus on the big picture. The more they attempt to suppress us, the stronger we get. We are like Obi Wan Kenobi...strike us down and we will become a million times stronger. You might as well hold up a dry towel to stop a tsunami.
07:22 AM on 11/17/2011
I was going to say...the Occupy movement is in some ways like a union but on a grander scale. I support their cause...if they're truly fighting for what they say: the wage gap. Anonymous behaves in a terrorist sort of way and to be connected to Occupy will only hurt their cause.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
09:39 AM on 11/17/2011
The movement is NOT about the wage gap. That is one of many issues that arise from the central one...too much corporate control over government. From that the rest naturally follows.
03:17 AM on 11/17/2011
A bunch of never wases,old hippies and homeless living in a dirty campground. Might have had some impact in the States.Gotta love the Occupy Regina that ended last night I am protesting that terrible 4.6 unemployment rate in Saskatchewan or that bozo in Toronto who has his panties in a knot because he actually has to pay his student loan.Why do you think they call it a loan,Einstein!
04:05 AM on 11/17/2011
Do you make the same as the posters in the states? $0.05 a post?
12:00 PM on 11/17/2011
Wish I did. So, every time someone disagrees with you they get paid. You are making a lot of people richer and helping the economy.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
09:41 AM on 11/17/2011
Old hippies, old ladies, veterans, union workers, unemployed, underemployed, employed but unappreciated, students, teachers, firemen, weirdos, homosexuals, minorities. Of course I call them people, or the people. You call them THEM, OTHER, what you wish you were not, but still are. You can think you are different, or better than us, but you are not. You might not even be as good as us.
10:44 AM on 11/18/2011
I am an old hippie, an ex union member, a veteran, broke, ignorant and fed up! How about you?
01:56 AM on 11/17/2011
1000 people camped out in every city is hardly a movement. Just a bunch of blind followers.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
09:42 AM on 11/17/2011
Blind followers of a leaderless movement that has no goals, according to people like you. How does that make any logical sense...or do you guys just throw words out until something resembling sense comes out. Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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greysells2
grey cells matter
12:04 PM on 11/17/2011
To paraphrase your comment sgillhooley, "Blind followers of a movement led by others whose goals are to allocate the rewards of society to a few powerful and established elite and screw the rest. How does that make any logical sense? Or do you guys just throw out talking points until something resembling sense comes out? A broken clock does not tell time and is never right."
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Runey
religion is why we can't have nice things.
01:12 AM on 11/17/2011
As Mario Savio famously said:
"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all."
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sdgreen
01:05 AM on 11/17/2011
Wow, what strange folks these University Professors are! All I saw was a bunch of druggies and riff raff looking for more free handouts from hard working Canadians.
01:15 AM on 11/17/2011
SAYS THE R.EICH WING F.ASCIST
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DocManhattan
02:00 AM on 11/17/2011
Maybe you should stop dismissing all those who don't see the point of the movement in such a trite manner. The Occupy movement has been demonstrating and speaking out for weeks, and have not be able to get behind one single coherent idea. Not only have they not achieved anything - they haven't been able to decide what they're trying to achieve.

Some of us observing from the outside are also outraged at the abuses of the financial system, at corporate corruption and political ineptitude, but are busy working full-time jobs to pay our bills, keep a roof over our heads and feed ourselves and our families. Why should we support a protest movement that doesn't even really know what it's for?
02:03 AM on 11/17/2011
DocManhattan:

1) THEY HAVE MANY IDEAS WHICH ARE ALL VALID. SO MANY THINGS TO FIX. YOUR ARGUMENT IS WORTHLESS.

2) MOST IN OWS HAVE JOBS WHICH TELLS ME ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE CLUELESS. THOSE WHO DO NOT ,WANT ONE. THEY WANT THE RICH TO GET OUT OF GOVERNMENT.

3) YOU ARE PART OF THE ENEMY AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE OF YOUR COMMENT HISTORY.
04:06 AM on 11/17/2011
Another nickel earned with that post?