Health Accord: Ottawa And Provinces Set To Begin Talks For Post-2014 Deal

Health Accord 2014

First Posted: 11/21/11 03:39 PM ET Updated: 11/21/11 10:49 PM ET

OTTAWA - The federal government will officially begin discussions on the next health- care accord this week — talks that will define the fiscal and social-policy relationship between Ottawa and the provinces for years to come.

Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq is to meet her provincial counterparts in Halifax on Friday for their first formal talks on how to reform and pay for health care after the current agreement expires in 2014.

"This will be an opportunity to talk about what's working and begin to talk about what principles will guide upcoming decisions about health care," said Steve Outhouse, a spokesman for Aglukkaq.

Billions of dollars and the quality of hospitals, medical treatment and prevention measures are at stake, as is the very nature of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's relationship with the provinces.

The federal government is providing $27 billion to the provinces for health care this fiscal year, an amount that is set to rise by six per cent a year for the next four years even as Ottawa struggles to balance its books.

But the provinces provide the bulk of the funding — often at the expense of other programs and their general fiscal health.

They are desperate to find ways to wrestle down costs and that process is well underway in many provinces. Ontario, for example, has pledged to hold health-care increases to just one per cent a year. And other provinces are poised to cut outright.

"How do we, facing the challenges that we face now as a country, ensure that we don't break the bank, but that we continue to have a system which ensures healthier Canadians?" asked health-law expert Maureen McTeer, who leads a Canadian Nurses Association task force.

McTeer says the federal and provincial ministers need to find a way to preserve an acceptable acute-care system based in hospitals and complement it with much better and more efficient primary care based in communities.

But the formal beginning of the health-care talks this week is a soft launch.

The ministers are only devoting an hour to the topic during their meetings.

"There are still more than two years until the health accord expires and it's important to point out that work is underway on a number of topics that affect the health of Canadians," said Outhouse. "These initial discussions will be one of several agenda items this Friday."

The health ministers don't plan to tackle the thorny issue of who will pay for the mounting costs. That will be left to finance ministers.

Critics fear the fiscal squeeze will mean cuts to health care or privatization and they plan to make their concerns known loudly from the margins of the meetings.

But the tough decisions are still a ways off. The recent round of provincial elections means most of the provincial health ministers are new to their jobs, and not yet ready to plunge into serious negotiations.

And Ottawa has taken off some of the heat by promising to continue six-per-cent annual increases in funding for two years beyond the expiry of the current accord in 2014.

Plus, the federal government has made it clear it does not want to conduct the kind of crisis-fuelled negotiation that former prime minister Paul Martin conducted earlier this decade. Conservative insiders say that kind of atmosphere led to long-lasting, but poor decisions, with little accountability.

While ministers have only just begun formally setting out their bargaining positions, officials at both levels of government have been preparing the groundwork for almost a year.

At the same time, a range of professional groups and researchers have conducted their own cross-country hearings and investigations into the state of health care.

There seems to be a consensus that the long-time focus on acute care in hospitals is insufficient, said McTeer. But there is also a realization that to expand publicly funded health care beyond its current realm would require finding significant reforms and savings elsewhere.

But where those efficiencies can be found and whether or not governments can afford them as the population ages are open questions. At the same time, calls for more home care, better palliative care and a national pharmacare program are growing constantly louder.

McTeer's task force and others call for a national, consensus-building conference next year to give governments a solid basis to build upon.

At this point, the policy makers and the experts are talking past each other, noted economist Don Drummond said in a recent report.

"Many analysts and health-care stakeholders have been sounding the alarm: Canada's health system is unsustainable. But their alarms are not being heard by the public and government action is slow and incremental," he said.

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11:11 AM on 11/23/2011
The government isn't incorporating all health costs and liabilities in their discussion. I haven't heard anything from Health Canada informing the provinces that the mechanism linking radio frequency EMFs to adverse health effects has been reported by government trained electrical professionals. The result is Wi-Fi and smart meters will affect human health, neurological function plus much more.

Safety Code 6 is the law on exposure for humans and because the code didn't include human electrical information. You can't bathe humans, pacemakers, health monitoring equipment and patients in a power density, they aren't protected from it or compatible electrically.

Right now BC Interior Health, hospitals, doctors, insurers, etc and taxpayers pick up the costs for health. At the same time the BC government and the energy department are taking EMFs to people's home where it will interfere with humans as well as health monitoring. What a health contradiction?

Has the health accord figured a base cost for bombarding populations with these frequencies when Health Canada says it can cause nerve stimulation? Do we compensate people for their lost reproductive capabilities.

Here is a response to the energy minister in BC, he has no idea about health costs. http://www.thermoguy.com/blog/index.php?itemid=76

This is the result of a government getting political on a health issue.
07:53 AM on 11/23/2011
perhaps if the gov't purchased much cheaper re-worked f18s instead of 30 billion on f35s that don't work, we wouldn't have a budget shortfall when it comes to healthcare, something that affects all canadians
11:36 PM on 11/22/2011
the only thing coming is the bait and switch... they have no intention of privatizing our healthcare system, that would be political suicide for any political party. But they do want something else... and the easiest way to get what they want is to paint the most terrifying picture for you, so when they ask for it, in exchange, you wont think twice about giving it up. I only wonder what it is...
05:26 AM on 11/22/2011
There's actually only one decision we should be talking about - do we continue to let a cartel of private businesses (AKA 'banks') create and control our money, thus raking in windfall profits of tens of billions per year - or do we do what any sane and sovereign democratic government would do - take back this money creation and control power into democratic hands? Over the last 30 years, the governments of Canada have paid some two trillion ('t' correct - trillion) dollars in "service charges" on money created by private banks, when not a penny of that two trillion need have been paid had the government been controlling "our" own money (yes, much of the current debt is to pension funds and things, but the point is, that borrowing should never have been done, if the government was managing 'our' money in the interests of the people of Canada, rather than allowing commercial banking interests to manage it in their favor.) Much else, too much to get in to a short comment - more here - What Happened http://www.rudemacedon.ca/what-happened.html .
05:14 PM on 11/21/2011
They say Canada's health care system is unsustainable but we've got money for jets and prisons we don't need.
Come on governments. Get your priorities straight!
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06:29 PM on 11/21/2011
Not to mention moving beds for foreign leaders and eletctical work. I don't even want to get into Clements unauditied spending spree.
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11:32 PM on 11/21/2011
the crimebill is going to lock thousands more up and costs hundreds of millions more just for guards and running them constantly. hopefully here we will see even old people who are conservatives split form the party, once again plunging it into the dark abbyss of a forgotten party from whence it came.

THe conservatives are moving us back socially (marijuana laws) economically (taking credit for liberal policies and blaming europe when things turn sour now, but more importantly the oil sands represents a continued commitment to a dying resources. the biggest problem isn't even when we run out, its the fact that when we do run out the stuff will keep being produced and the shortage of goods will only happen far after its too late.. no more plastics.. what is our world going to rely on now?

i think we have this illusion that simply because the past knowledge has built on other knowledge to get to this point in time, but only now do we actually ahve the ability and means to plunder and poison our world so bad.

We should start looking at our planet more as an organism. and the oceans, the lands, the swamps all fulfil their parts and act like organs helping the system as a whole work together to function. they all work in sync to keep this entity going its almost like its a living working thing then something dead.