Adbuster's Co-Founder Kalle Lasn Criticizes Energy, Coverage Of Occupy Canada

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First Posted: 11/26/11 11:48 AM ET Updated: 11/26/11 01:51 PM ET

TORONTO - Protesters hail it as a life-changing experience while pundits acknowledge it as a driving force in the national conversation, but the man who helped launch the Canadian incarnation of the "Occupy" movement says his adopted home country didn't execute his vision the way he hoped.

Kalle Lasn, co-founder of the Vancouver-based magazine that touched off the international campaign, said the protest against fiscal imbalance and corporate influence suffered from media misrepresentation and a comparative lack of energy during its first month on Canadian soil.

Canada's activists first took to the streets on Oct. 15, three months after Adbusters Media Foundation published a provocative ad exhorting readers to "Occupy Wall St." They were a month behind protesters in New York who took that call to heart by setting up camp in Manhattan's Zuccotti Park. While protesters from Halifax to Vancouver emulated their global counterparts by pitching tents in public spaces and brainstorming ways to challenge the status quo, Lasn said the efforts he witnessed lacked some of the passion that characterized rallies in the United States.

"I must admit, there is something kind of special about Canada," Lasn said in a telephone interview. "Somehow I found that many of the things that were happening in the U.S., there seems to be more vigour and spunk in some of the occupations there."

Lasn's impressions of the comparative lassitude stemmed from visits to the Occupy site in his adopted home town of Vancouver, which _ along with other urban campsites in Toronto, Montreal, Quebec and Edmonton _ was forcibly shut down by city authorities earlier this week.

While the site attracted its share of energized, politically engaged youth who the Estonian-born Lasn describes as "the new left," he also noted a stronger presence from fringe elements that has given left wing movements a bad name in the past, he said.

"I just had a feeling that there was a little bit too much of the loony left there," Lasn said. "I had a feeling that we needed more of the young, new-left spunk that I felt was happening in Zuccotti Park. I didn't see all that much of it here in Vancouver."

Lasn is quick to lay much of the blame on mainstream media, who he accuses of depicting the protesters as lawless rebels and their camp sites as dens of iniquity.

By zeroing in on incidents of drug use and crime _ which take place in staggering numbers every day _ Canada's news outlets failed to communicate the key message at the heart of the "Occupy movement," he said.

"The Canadian media really dropped the ball on this one," Lasn said. "Instead of seeing it as a movement of young people fighting for a different kind of future, which is so beautiful and so valid, they basically saw it as a pesky irritation that had to be got rid of."

That negative coverage may have motivated authorities to crack down on occupation sites in recent weeks and forced protesters themselves to lose focus as they fretted about when eviction notices would be handed down, he said.

"It's been a bit of a dismal few weeks for the movement, especially in Canada," he said. "In Zuccotti Park and other places there's still a lot of positive feeling, but here in Canada, somehow we did lose the high ground. . . . we finished up defending ourselves against people who didn't like us."

Protesters themselves concede that putting an end to the urban occupations may revitalize the dialog at the heart of the movement.

Jamie Klinger, who spent a month producing works of art at the Montreal protest site, said many of his fellow activists had to devote their time to ensuring the camp site was sanitary and stocked with food.

Now they're free to refocus their efforts, and Klinger said they've put together an extensive to-do list.

"This is just the beginning, I can't wait to see what happens a month from now. Occupy Montreal is going to be everywhere," Klinger said.

Klinger's enthusiasm was widely echoed among the youth who Megan Boler encountered during the week she spent at the Occupy site in Toronto.

The University of Toronto media studies professor surveyed protesters across North America as part of a project analyzing young people's engagement with social movements and found similar sentiments on both sides of the border.

Half the protesters she interviewed said they have become deeply engaged with politics for the first time in their lives, saying the movement was the cause they'd waited a lifetime to support, she added.

"I actually felt there was a very similar sense of commitment and spirit and analysis of the impact of globalization and corporate greed," she said. "The 'I've had it" feeling is quite similar between the rallies I attended in Toronto and the rallies I attended in New York and San Francisco."

The Canadian protesters were motivated by issues unique to their country such as rising levels of student debt and concerns for those who have fallen through the social safety net, she said.

Bob Hackett, professor of communication at Simon Fraser University, said that could help account for the more mellow mood Lasn sensed.

The political polarization and economic turmoil that helped galvanize the movement south of the border is lacking here, Hackett said, adding Canadians have more political options and likely feel less disillusioned as a result.

"I don't think the same degree of alienation exists here politically, and I would say the same economically," he said. "You don't have millions of people losing their homes because of the regulations in the banking system and other strengths of the economy."

That comparative calm has its bright side, Hackett said, adding none of the Canadian urban occupations descended into violence as they did in U.S. locales like New York and Oakland.

Lasn himself had previously said he anticipated the Canadian "Occupy" movement would be more low-key than its U.S. cousin, which has begun to spawn concrete policy changes that show no sign of gaining traction here. Seattle city council unanimously passed a resolution to revisit its municipal banking practices, while Occupy protesters joined in a large-scale push to defeat anti-union legislation in Ohio earlier this month.

Still, Lasn has no doubt that the Canadian movement has done great good by stimulating debate and forcing a new generation of citizens to think critically about the world they live in.

"It's thrown a curve ball into the young psyche of Canada," he said, adding the people who slept in parks this month will spend the winter brainstorming to launch the movement's next phase in the spring.

Klinger agreed.

"Whether it physically occupies in tents or does it in some other manifestation isn't relevant _ it's our message that's relevant."

_ With files from Sidhartha Banerjee

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Tony frm Banff
Search for truth,not spin
10:35 PM on 11/30/2011
The problem in Canada is the press as its in the pocket of this con government.
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TwoZeroOZ
10:43 AM on 11/28/2011
""I don't think the same degree of alienation exists here politically, and I would say the same economically," he said. "You don't have millions of people losing their homes because of the regulations in the banking system and other strengths of the economy.""
Couldn't have said it better myself.
OWS should stay in countries that have the income gap problem.
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Nancy Daniel
God is Love
11:53 PM on 11/27/2011
If this Kalle Lasn is acknowledg­ing that he is the leader and instigator­,of these clowns protesting­.The government and businesses should sue him for the cost of police use,clean up and the income these businesses lost !
www.thegeekwork.com
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fatuglynerd
Be careful ... You are what you pretend to be.
02:38 PM on 11/28/2011
Maybe the most moronic statement I've read all month.

Maybe.
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DWAYNE CORREA
Eh heh...oh.
09:43 AM on 11/29/2011
"Moronic" is too kind of a word in this case. I would add "Robot Zombie".
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DWAYNE CORREA
Eh heh...oh.
09:47 AM on 11/29/2011
Moronic it too kind a word. Robot Zombie is more like it.
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dclintn648
Conservatism is dread
07:21 PM on 11/27/2011
Until the public stops worshipping and idolizing the rich for doing nothing more than being rich, nothing will really change. We'll see a few bones thrown to the poor and middle class by politicians to paper over the problem, but they will keep their inordinate power over the political and financial system until the 99% threaten to revolt. We're almost there now...
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DWAYNE CORREA
Eh heh...oh.
09:46 AM on 11/29/2011
Seems like the "system" is dysfunctional and appears to be falling on it's own.
02:22 AM on 11/27/2011
When unions stepped in, protest went downhill and lost original message.Think most of the thinking protestors were gonzo after the first couple of weeks.
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tmaxPA
02:22 PM on 11/28/2011
I kinda think it was more the pepper spray and the police. And I'm not sure if you know quite what "gonzo" means: these protesters were gonzo from the get-go. If that idiot Hunter S. could have held on a couple more years, he'd have been happy to see this.
12:35 AM on 11/27/2011
"The Canadian protesters were motivated by issues unique to their country such as rising levels of student debt and concerns for those who have fallen through the social safety net, she said."

Horse feathers ! - they were looking for any reason to protest - pure and simple . I would not doubt if they were also involved in the hockey riots in Vancouver - monosyllabic anarchists without any idea about how to have an intelligent conversation .

They are the 21st Century version of Luddites - wailing away as the unfortunate casualties of human evolution. Their efforts were be recorded in footnotes of history as 'simpleton reactionaries'.
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dclintn648
Conservatism is dread
07:35 PM on 11/27/2011
BULL PUCKEY! You cannot deny there is growing inequality and that this generation doesn't have the same level playing field and opportunities that the last generation had! It is simply a FACT!

But now that these people have ENJOYED all the benefits and social safety nets that their parents' generation set up for the benefit of future generations, instead of paying it forward, they want to screw the next generation. It's shameful.

So instead of blaming them for being hooligans, you should blame their parents for being greedy and irresponsible. Just look at the world they created.
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DWAYNE CORREA
Eh heh...oh.
09:49 AM on 11/29/2011
Right but that Robot Zombie and other drooling morons doesn't want to look at anything but his blinking idiot box.
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tmaxPA
02:26 PM on 11/28/2011
That kind of vehemence coupled with that level of inaccuracy can only come from serious projection. You are a simpleton whiner with zero social conscience.
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basinr
The truth and nothing but the truth
11:51 PM on 11/26/2011
Adbuster's Co-Founder Kalle Lasn should be sued for the money we the tax payers are spending to have police presence and the cost of maintenance of the parks !
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dclintn648
Conservatism is dread
07:42 PM on 11/27/2011
You should be sued for your share of the money we taxpayers have had to pay as a result of your party's fraudulent, dishonest conservative policies! Conservatism is based on fear. We need courageous leaders, not fearful liars.
11:50 PM on 11/26/2011
Occupy has been a successful protest. Declare DEC 22nd, "Winter Solstice", a victory celebration day and then shut down all outdoor activities. . Use the winter to plan and organize the 99% Movement in the Spring. Declare startup day as Mar 20th on the "Spring Equinox".
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Charles the Great
Canadian/Israeli Goy in Alert,Nunavut
01:41 PM on 11/27/2011
So could someone show us the revolution then? The occupy did not even have the 99% behind them just the far left saying they are the majority when they are not
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dclintn648
Conservatism is dread
07:49 PM on 11/27/2011
You honestly think the only people who support the movement are the ones who had the ability to camp out there? That's where you conservatives are wrong. So far, the media has done nothing to communicate their message yet they have a TON of support. Now that they have made the initial point, they are not going to just leave it at that.

They've already changed the political conversation from austerity to income inequality, and opened a lot of people's eyes to the political corruption (not the ones on the right who have their hands over them, of course), and they've done it with NO media support or financial backing. And the reason it has done so well is that what they are saying is factually and provably TRUE.
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fatuglynerd
Be careful ... You are what you pretend to be.
02:41 PM on 11/28/2011
Keep thinking in cahoots with the 1%ers.

You'll be the one saying you're sorry in the near future.

Do you even care about the future generations of this planet?
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tmaxPA
02:27 PM on 11/28/2011
I like that idea. I hope it catches on.
10:33 PM on 11/26/2011
Further to what the above article touches on, this is a must-read article. Especially those who resort to overly simplistic superficial criticisms. This very thorough analysis backed up by factual information should be reason for most reasonable people, regardless of their entrenched views, to see this movement in a new light:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/nov/25/shocking-truth-about-crackdown-occupy
03:32 PM on 11/27/2011
I would look forward to a reasoned response which takes exception to the thesis presented in the linked article. I do not, unfortunately, expect to see one.
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DWAYNE CORREA
Eh heh...oh.
09:54 AM on 11/29/2011
Truth is hard to take when you've been hoodwinked by decades of propaganda.
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dclintn648
Conservatism is dread
07:56 PM on 11/27/2011
Naomi Klein is a brilliant journalist, and her book "The Shock Doctrine", along with her articles, like this one, have brought much of the complex web of global political and corporate corruption to light in a way that the general public can understand it. I'm starting to fear for her life, and I'm not saying that lightly...
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DWAYNE CORREA
Eh heh...oh.
09:55 AM on 11/29/2011
...Wolf.
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Artamentous
Workplace Democracy!
10:04 PM on 11/26/2011
What are wrong with Unions exactly? They sure are imperfect, but aren't the corporations as well? I swear, humans love to be sheep. Those who criticize unions are like serfs praising their king. Poor ignorant saps don't know any better.
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butchcliff
The future is unwritten
08:05 AM on 11/27/2011
As one sap to another...will the unions, like rats fleeing a sinking ship, now help cover the cost of the cleanup?
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dclintn648
Conservatism is dread
08:05 PM on 11/27/2011
The protestors have already offered to help pay for the cleanup! But don't let us distract you from your right wing talking points...
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Miranda Wrietz
Yes, it is a mandate.
03:52 AM on 11/28/2011
Russell Simmons has offered to pay for the clean-up at Zucotti, Oakland and other Occupy sites. Really? It is about the sanitation? Seems like the flimsiest smokescreen you folks have. But you parrots love your talking points.
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Charles the Great
Canadian/Israeli Goy in Alert,Nunavut
01:43 PM on 11/27/2011
They also focus on their political pet projects and use the money of the worker for their political agendas at the same time not even helping workers in the work place
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dclintn648
Conservatism is dread
08:04 PM on 11/27/2011
That is simply NOT TRUE. Their "political pet projects"? What are those pet projects that don't help workers? Take a look at this chart: it shows that, as union membership decreases, so does worker pay and benefits. http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/01/20/173738/report-incomes/

Besides, the protestors have already offered to help pay for the cleanup anyway!
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Artamentous
Workplace Democracy!
08:52 PM on 11/27/2011
I agree, Unions should have radically different agendas. But what you described is what the other side does as well.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
07:35 PM on 11/26/2011
Another union funded fiasco...
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08:40 PM on 11/26/2011
"Another union funded fiasco... "

- says a SUN News junkie who polls have shown to be less literate on politics than those who are apolitical in general.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
09:47 PM on 11/26/2011
You weren't aware the unions were funding these?
And that much of the money disappeared?

You should get out of the house more, and get yourself a wider source of information, not just the listen to the hacks at the CBC.
02:20 AM on 11/27/2011
Worst performance Sid Ryan,that inbred ,and his parrots at Occupy Toronto when the place was being cleaned up. Cheap Photo Opp!
06:18 PM on 11/26/2011
Part of the problem is the derivative nature of the protests, even though it was a Canadian group which got the Americans going. The fact is that the US is the core of capitalist exploitation and the Canadian version, up to now, is more benign in some ways. Canada has the same problem of the corporate press, and they were able to exploit petty crime, etc, to create the unwashed down and out threat exploited to divide the movement from its potential supporters. Some sort of opposition momentum needs to be retained. We still have the serious problem of the Harper regime, which wants to lower Canadian standards to those south of the border, and almost is acting to create a sort of Vichy France model of collaboration with the hated regime south of the border.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
07:34 PM on 11/26/2011
Did a lot of acid in the 60's?
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
05:59 PM on 11/26/2011
Canadians are a very complaint people. Look at our electoral system and political system for instance, or our standard of living and relative ease that we just give up on improving it.
When the Honourable Pat Martin dropped his 'f bomb' tweet lost in the media storm was his question of what other democracy would tolerate this? Nobody, and unlike the people of western Europe (even France and Germany!) where protests are a fact of life the vast majority of us would just let things be. We're in a kennel, but the kibbles and bits are all we want. Gilded cage is still a cage and all of that...
It's rather embarrassing really.
shakesome
Freedom. Not corporatism, not socialism.
05:40 PM on 11/26/2011
Yeah, the Adbusters thing is part of the formation of OWS but in reality it started even before that. I was told mid-summer that this would be coming in the late fall. I was also told then name of the radical SEIU activist who was one of the major planners. Wonder where the seed money came from? And the foot soldiers are under the delusion that this is an organic movement. ha! The planners haven't been out in the cold for one night.
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tmaxPA
02:43 PM on 11/28/2011
I don't think anyone is under the delusion that nobody planned the Occupation. But since the foot soldiers just showed up to keep things going because they thought it was a great idea, that does make it an "organic" movement. So keep going with your lame attempts to dismiss the Occupation. It's nice when the worst of the sheeple announce themselves like you do.
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DWAYNE CORREA
Eh heh...oh.
10:10 AM on 11/29/2011
FYI the organizer of OWS is Patrick Bruner. He and others have not only been out in the cold but given eloquent talks and interviews. Ordinary citizens contributed $ after it began. It seems you, shakesome, are projecting illusions.