NDP Leadership: Despite No Permanent Leader, Party Eyes Next Election With Gun Registry Ad

Ndp Leadership Gun Registry Ad

First Posted: 11/28/11 08:37 AM ET Updated: 11/28/11 03:41 PM ET

UPDATE: The Globe and Mail is reporting that the NDP is revamping its upcoming ad campaign after learning it features the wrong gun.

A senior Conservative staffer contacted The Huffington Post to point out that while the text of the ad says the gun is a Ruger Mini-14 semi-automatic the image actually portrays a Ruger Mini 14 Tactical Rifle.

The Ruger Mini 14 Tactical Rifle is a restricted weapon and will remain registered even after the Tories scrap the long-gun registry. Owners will still need a restricted firearms licence to purchase the gun.

The Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle is the semi-automatic version of the weapon. The weapon is not restricted and owners will be "de-registered," the senior staffer said.

The Globe's story states the party is changing the billboard ads to reflect the image of another military-looking gun the Steyr HS .50.

The NDP may not have a permanent leader but that isn't stopping it from already planning for the next election.

“Preparations for the next campaign are already underway,” Brad Lavigne, the principal secretary to interim leader Nycole Turmel told The Huffington Post Sunday.

“Four years, is not that long when you size up the challenge before us. We've secured 31 per cent of the vote, we need to find another large group of Canadians who either voted for another party or didn't vote in the last election campaign for us to reach our ultimate goal, which is to form the next government.”

“The next election will be starting a lot sooner than four years from now. Planning is already kind of underway. So we have no time to spare in terms of it,” he added.

The NDP is preparing to launch a new billboard ad campaign attacking the Conservatives for their decision to scrap the long-gun registry and destroy its records, the Globe and Mail reported Monday.

The outside-election-cycle ad features the image of a Ruger Mini-14 semi-automatic, a weapon that was used by both Marc Lépine in the 1989 Montreal Polytechnique massacre and by Norwegian Anders Breivik during his horrific July killing spree. The tagline: “No More Safeguards. Is that why you voted Conservative?” is intended to reinforce the message that the Tories are using their majority to instigate policies Canadian voters didn’t expect, the newspaper reported, and imprint that idea in the public's mind in a fashion similar to how the Conservatives used ads to define Liberal leaders Stephane Dion and Michael Ignatieff ahead of the last two elections..

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Tuesday, Lavigne will be in Sydney, Australia, signing a memorandum of understanding with the country’s Labour Party — the first formal international partnership in the NDP's 50-year history.

“We have a tremendous amount to learn from our colleagues and we want to put those lessons into place as soon as possible,” Lavigne told HuffPost, noting that agreements are also being sought with U.K.'s Labour Party and potentially Ireland and Italy's Labour parties.

International linkages will help the NDP learn from parties with experience governing, Lavigne said, what it took for them to get there and how that can be put into practice in a Canadian context.

Will that undoubtedly mean the New Democrats move closer to the political centre?

Yes, Lavigne suggested.

While he prefered talking about the party moving forward rather than horizontally, and cautioned that strategies and messaging that worked elsewhere won't necessarily translate in Canada — "We have a different political culture” — Lavigne said the DNP will have to continue to broaden its appeal. He stressed, however, that “Obviously, the next leader chosen by our members in March is going to set the direction for where we need to go."

"We've gone from less than a million people supporting us less than 10 years ago, to 4.6 million" the NDP veteran noted.

"There's no question that what we've been doing for the last number of years has made the party more relevant to the electorate. That work must continue, and will do so," Lavigne said.

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  • What does this new bill on the gun registry do?

    We keep hearing about scrapping the long-gun registry, but really what we're talking about is scrapping the requirement for people to register their rifles and shotguns - that's what Bill C-19 aims to do by making amendments to the Criminal Code and Firearms Act. Once passed, people will not have to register their non-restricted or non-prohibited firearms. It also provides for the destruction of existing records in the Canadian Firearms Registry for those firearms. <em>With files from CBC</em>

  • What exactly is the registry?

    It's a centralized database overseen by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police that links firearms with their licensed owners. It contains information about all three types of guns that must be registered - non-restricted, restricted and prohibited. (All firearms must be registered.) To register a firearm, you have to have a licence to possess it.

  • Does the bill make any changes to licensing requirements?

    No. Canadian residents need a licence in order to possess and register a firearm or ammunition and that won't change. There are a couple of different kinds of licences because of various changes to laws and regulations over the years.

  • What are long guns?

    There are three types of guns under Canadian law: non-restricted, restricted and prohibited. Most common long guns - rifles and shotguns - are non-restricted but there are a few exceptions. A sawed-off shotgun, for example, is a prohibited firearm. A handgun is an example of a restricted firearm. Different regulations apply to different classifications of firearms.

  • How many guns are we talking about?

    As of September 2011, there were about 7.8 million registered guns. Of those, 7.1 million are non-restricted firearms.

  • Why does the government want to get rid of the long-gun registry?

    The government says it is wasteful and ineffective at reducing crime and targets law-abiding gun owners instead of criminals, who don't register their firearms.

  • Who wants to keep it?

    Police and victims' groups are big supporters of the registry. Police say the database helps them evaluate a potential safety threat when they pull a vehicle over or are called to a residence. They also say it helps support police investigations because the registry can help determine if a gun was stolen, illegally imported, acquired or manufactured. This year, the RCMP says police agencies accessed it on average more than 17,000 times a day.

  • When will the registry cease to exist?

    The government has passed the legislation and the registry no longer exists. Except for in Quebec, where an ongoing court challenge means the owners must still register their guns in the province.

  • Why does the government want to destroy the records?

    The government is doing this to ensure that no future non-Conservative government can recreate the registry. Public Safety Minister Vic Toews has also made it clear that if any province wants to set up its own registry it would get no help from the federal government. The Conservatives are so fundamentally opposed to the existence of the records, because they say they focus on law-abiding citizens instead of criminals, that they don't want them available for anyone to use.

  • How much does the registry cost?

    The registry cost more than $1 billion to set up in 1995 and the cost was the source of much controversy. Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said on Oct. 25 that the government's best estimate is that it costs about $22 million a year to operate. That's the entire registry, not just the long-gun portion, but he noted most of the guns in the registry are long guns. He said he didn't know how much money scrapping the requirement to register long guns would save the government. Conservative MP Candice Hoeppner says there are also "hidden costs" that are borne by provincial and municipal police agencies to enforce the registry.

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UPDATE: The Globe and Mail is reporting that the NDP is revamping its upcoming ad campaign after learning it features the wrong gun. A senior Conservative staffer contacted The Huffington Post to ...
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01:30 PM on 02/24/2012
Of course it goes to far. For one it is a LIE as there are plenty of safeguards and the LGR never was one to start with. Second, to imply that the LGR keeps guns out of the hands of those that would do harm to others, commit murder, beat their wives, or otherwise terrorise or criminalize innocent VICTIMS is incorrect and therefore criminal, slander. The LGR targets citizens who are licensed, screened, and 1/5th as likely to commit homicde than NON (licensed) gun owners. The entire premise behind this attack add is to note that your average hunter, farmer, or sport shooter is the next maniac homicidal killer and that anyone who votes Conservatives is somehow anti-victim.

SHAME ON YOU NDP

Its high time the legal gun owners of Canada united in a class-action lawsuit for slander against the NDP and any other political party that would make such unfounded accusations.
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05:17 AM on 12/01/2011
Look out everybody! 'CanadaStan' is in the building!
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dread
04:03 PM on 11/29/2011
The NDP clearly do not understand the gun control issue. They are either misrepresenting the facts or don't know the difference. Either way, they should study the issue and become familier with the actual facts before they take a stand on any issue. Sometimes even Steven Harper gets it right.
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09:07 AM on 11/30/2011
Here's a link to more info on that, and the pic they are now going to use. Their first chioce was a bit overzealous, it seems.
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20111128/ndp-gun-attack-ad-on-conservatives-misfires-111128/

Harper does have it right on this one. I have another link, and excerpt, to a piece written in 2004, by Colby Cosh, in case readers are interested: http://archives.tcj.com/263/e_cosh.html

"To suggest that Lepine's justification for his actions was insane would be to discredit his universality, to dismiss the "reality" he revealed. Instead, feminists rallied behind the creation of a universal federal registry for legal firearms, which was eventually implemented by the Liberal government of Jean Chretien and which still enjoys broad public support despite the $2 billion price tag it "unexpectedly" carried. The registry -- as yet too error-ridden to be useful even to beat cops approaching an unfamiliar doorway -- is often described as Canada's monument to the massacre victims. But how, one wonders, can it be more comforting to be murdered with a registered firearm than with an unregistered one? "

The NDP are doing their best to link Marc Lepine with the killer Breivik, who has recently been found insane instead of being sent to trial and being permitted to have his story come out. See http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/11/29/national-post-editorial-board-a-fitting-end-for-a-very-sick-man/#more-59281
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10:02 AM on 11/29/2011
Hey we make those New Hampster!!

The NDP should get in power TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA AND CUT MILITARY SPENDING!!!
GUN CONTROL IS SHOOTING THE PARTY IN THE FOOT!!!

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08:25 AM on 11/29/2011
You know, I've said this before and I'll say it again. A gun, left to itself, is a badly designed club. For it to be a lethal weapon, somebody has to actually load it, aim it, and pull the damn trigger.

I sympathize with victims rights groups, I really do. I've been shot at, and I didn't much like the experience. My sister was shot at, and none of us liked that experience. However, I didn't automatically get a hate on for all things that go 'bang-bang'. A gun didn't shoot at me or my sister. A person did.

For the police chiefs? Trust me, they would be 100% in favor of a law that required every single citizen in this country to register their movements hour-by-hour. For law enforcement, all knowledge is a weapon and they'll use as many as they can get.

But think of the cost/benefit ratio here. Lots of cost to zero benefit. All the long-gun registry has done is make perfectly harmless farmers and hunters into criminals - wasting more money. That's not a benefit. It would be benefit if that registry had managed to ever convict any criminal, or solve any crime. It has never done either.

In fact, look at the billboards in your city right now. What are they saying? "Help us find the illegal guns." They need help, because people don't register the illegal ones. Duh.
12:16 PM on 11/29/2011
Eventually people will realize that violence and aggression are behavior problems... that cannot effectively be dealt with using paperwork.
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But I can't blame the NDP for going the fear mongering root... it is much easier to blame a (scary looking) object... than to deal with violent and rogue individuals.
09:38 PM on 11/28/2011
You know Ms. Raj despite you efforts to defend the Harper government, being the good Sun reporter you are, we still get the message about the intent of the ad, in fact WOMEN get the message loud and clear.
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08:21 PM on 11/28/2011
NDP has nothing really to talk about so they always go back to gun control.
07:26 PM on 11/28/2011
>> Slide #10: the government's best estimate is that it costs about $22 million a year to operate

I must have missed something... but the Canadian Firearm Center in Miramichi has a operating budget of $100 millions a year. Most provincial Chief Firearm Officer officers have operating budget of $5-$10 million each...

I am not that good at math, but that's a whole lot more than the $22 million mentioned.

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Unless someone miss-quoted the minister, and this is the 'monthly' charge.
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11:44 AM on 11/29/2011
The 22 million per year is the amount saved by removing the LGR sections from the Criminal Code and dumping the useless and error-filled files. That's what people don't get.ALL GUN LAWS and OWNER REGISTRATIONS ARE NOT BEING REMOVED. Gun ownership will STILL have to be licensed. What IS being tossed is the provisions that allow police to kick in your door WITHOUT A WARRANT if you forget to renew the license on your 22 caliber squirrel gun.
12:18 PM on 11/29/2011
If removing 90% of all transactions only yield a 20% saving... maybe we will need to review the whole bureaucracy.

I could think of quite a few other programs that could use the money, and actually have a positive impact on our society.
05:41 PM on 11/28/2011
... -face palm-
04:43 PM on 11/28/2011
Here is some more interesting info...

http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/2010/08/Press_Release_Chiefs_Jones_20100824.html
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03:51 PM on 11/28/2011
$2 billion(2,000,000,000.00) dollars to register how many guns? and How much per year to run? it is not a matter of if it is good or bad it is the fact that there is nowhere near the value for what was paid. How does a government say it will cost 2 million to impliment and the cost raises by 1000X. Probably a place to hid inept public servants with their jobs for life.
05:32 PM on 11/28/2011
If you want to have a good chuckle... look at the estimated number of firearms in the country...

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Before the registry, we were at 20 something millions firearms into Canada.

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The government then "revised" it to 18 millions... then 15 millions... then 12... then 10... I think we are now at the 7 or 8 millions mark...

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Seems like 70% of the restricted firearms from the "old" registry haven't made it to the new registry.

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http://www.lufa.ca/quickfacts.asp
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11:07 AM on 11/30/2011
Maybe you should look at it as a make work project.... much like all the "security" we currently endure at airports.
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03:48 PM on 11/28/2011
in four years the NDP's transformation to the New BLOCacrats will be be complete and they will be a regional Que centric party with little influence or interest in the rest of Canada.
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03:42 PM on 11/28/2011
Seemingly lost on the anti-registry people is this fact mentioned in the article:

"Police and victims' groups are big supporters of the registry."

So the people who have suffered from gun crime and the people who investigate those crimes are going to be ignored in favour of the people who mainly object to the registry over quasi-Libertarian principles.

No matter how I look at it, the Registry seems to do little harm and seems to have the potential to do great good. Why the rush to get rid of it then?
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03:57 PM on 11/28/2011
Police chiefs that is, the rank and file know the registry is a joke.
2 billion in the garbage can is no harm?
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05:17 AM on 12/01/2011
It's 'CANADASTAN' time! I KNEW I'd find you here!
04:22 PM on 11/28/2011
>> Why the rush to get rid of it then?

How about 2,000 times over budget.
How about 60 million queries and not one single crime solved nor prevented?
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03:27 PM on 11/28/2011
So whats the point here? If the NDP get elected they are going to waste millions of more dollars re-stablishing the gun registry ? Holy crap that's the best they have? Way to fight yesterdays battles in the future NDP lol.
03:49 PM on 11/28/2011
Nobody told them that violence and aggression are behavior problems... and that paperwork isn't the best way to deal with violent and aggressive individuals.

The NDP are not doing this on purpose, they just don't any better.
(Kind of sad when you think about it)