Attawapiskat: Charlie Angus And John Duncan Meet In A Stairwell

Angus Duncan

First Posted: 12/01/11 08:24 PM ET Updated: 12/02/11 06:58 PM ET

Far from the shambling tents and tarps that the world now knows as Attawapiskat -- a northern Ontario reserve that catapulted to public attention just over a month ago -- a couple of politicians ran into each other in an Ottawa stairwell.

The Thursday encounter between Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan and NDP MP Charlie Angus is worth noting for the fact that these two men may wield the greatest influence over the fate of the beleaguered First Nation community.

Angus, whose riding includes the reserve, raised alarm bells when he blogged about its deplorable living conditions for The Huffington Post Canada last month.

Duncan, on the other hand, as Aboriginal Affairs Minister, finds himself the public point man for questions about how a Canadian community can sink to such squalor on his watch. It's a question he can't entirely avoid with the announcement that Attawapiskat will now be under third-party management, while the Feds trace the whereabouts of some $90 million in funding pledged to the reserve over the last five years.

On Thursday, the frustration of these two politicians seemed to find a ready target — in each other.

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"If the department can be accused of anything, it is extreme patience," Duncan told the CBC's Julie van Dusen, during a one-on-one in the hall.

The minister insisted his department did not have "an awareness of what was in the community until a few days after Oct. 28."

But he went on to tell van Dusen that the feds had "people in the community" since April.

"I don't understand," she interrupted. "You said you didn't know until Oct 28."

Duncan shot back with: "They did not identify there was an issue — and neither did Charlie Angus, the representative of the area, who is not shy about talking about Attawapiskat."

If the latter was a dig at Angus' abundant media availability, then Duncan was repaid in more than equal measure when he attempted to make a break from the interview. Hustled off by handlers —'We gave you the time. We have to go' — Duncan made it down one stairwell before bumping into the man himself.

Angus greeted him with a hearty, "Mr. Duncan! We've got an emergency in Attawapiskat. You'll know now. Just so you don't get caught flat-footed."

If Duncan had a reply, it eluded the camera as the minster charged down the stairs and out of sight.

Having only a few minutes with the MP, van Dusen kept the embers glowing saying Duncan "seems to be blaming you for not telling him sooner."

Angus' answer?

'I would like to think he was busy with all the problems in other First Nation communities. That would be legitimate. But that doesn't seem to have been happening either."

He went on to say that the Feds are not guilty of casual incompetence regarding Attawapiskat, but "a willful hard-working level of incompentence."

"It's not that they were just ignoring Attawapiskat. It seems to have not been on his radar in any of the communites where we had ongoing crises."

NOTE: An earlier version of this story incorrectly identified the CBC interviewer as Janyce McGregor.

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Far from the shambling tents and tarps that the world now knows as Attawapiskat -- a northern Ontario reserve that catapulted to public attention just over a month ago -- a couple of politicians ran i...
Far from the shambling tents and tarps that the world now knows as Attawapiskat -- a northern Ontario reserve that catapulted to public attention just over a month ago -- a couple of politicians ran i...
 
 
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09:18 PM on 12/02/2011
You cons, when you're in charge, everything is your responsibility and you're required to know what is occurring. OBVIOUSLY, Duncan didn't have a clue about this. As for Angus, well if he has been working on this issue for at least 6 years, what else do you want him to do, he isn't part of the government. And why is it that an opposition member knows more about this then the Minister responsible?

You wingers love talking about personal responsibility except when it applies to yourselves. I spent 20 plus years in the Canadian Navy and if I had sailed with him, I would have worried every time he was Officer of the Watch. I can tell you there is no way I would have trusted him to even know how to tie his own shoe laces!

And while I am at, you Libs don't get off scott free on this either. In government, you had a record of clashes with and neglect of the aboriginal community and the reserves. There were plenty of stories about third world conditions on northern reserves while you guys had the keys. Your reaction wasn't any better, just slicker. And to listen to Bob Rae of all people on behalf of the Libs cry the blues about this makes me choke!

Why don't you guys act like adults for once in your lives? Nah, you can't, no one told you were supposed to.

Shameful!
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
03:59 PM on 12/02/2011
The audit may be done by a Herper friend... Does not bode well for the Aboriginals...
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Miller Time
11:17 AM on 12/02/2011
I would like to do a survey of ALL the MPs on Parliament Hill and ask them a very simple question: Did any of you have the faintest idea of where and/or what Attawapiskat is/was before this story hit the news?

I bet not one in a hundred would know the answer. Yet the NDP and Liberals (and Green) are so full of righteous indignation, it boggles the mind.
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
04:00 PM on 12/02/2011
The CONS have none... that's worse...
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Miller Time
04:03 PM on 12/02/2011
The Cons have none what?
02:26 AM on 12/03/2011
It isn't all of the MPs jobs to know where Attawapiskat is, the minister of Aboriginal affairs and Northern Development however should probably have an idea.
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Miller Time
10:42 AM on 12/03/2011
I guess you are saying that ignorance is bliss.

And, having given $90 million to Attawapiskat, the Department of Indian Affairs certainly know where it is.

What a silly comment.
05:45 AM on 12/02/2011
I would like to see Angus and Duncan go head to head on this, but Duncan always runs away. This whole contrived nonsense about 'third party management' is just an effort to deflect it on the First Nations and punish them for going public. Duncan knows exactly where the money went, and he will use the 'third party' whom they appoint to hide the facts. They count on the racists and the bigots like you see here to give them cover.
08:15 AM on 12/02/2011
Duncan and Harper are RACIST.

Money sent to Attawapiskat should be DOUBLED!!!!!

Anybody who criticizes native Canadians should be charged with spreading hate crimes, like the commenters here.
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Miller Time
11:18 AM on 12/02/2011
Racist. Explain how. And do you know exactly where this place is?
04:28 AM on 12/02/2011
This has been going on for the last seven years, hey Angus where were you for the first 83 months!
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SayBlade
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09:31 AM on 12/02/2011
Do you live there? What have you been doing for the people of Attiwapiskat?
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All Seeing Guy
Center of the storm
03:16 PM on 12/02/2011
Paying his taxes?
03:14 AM on 12/03/2011
Paying my taxes, how about you!
08:50 PM on 12/02/2011
Well, according to my research -- a quick search of the Google News archive -- Charlie Angus has been working on the Attawapiskat file since at least 2005. Now let's see, 2011 take away 2005 is 11.

Where were you, brianmouland, when they taught math? And are you capable of doing online research? Do you enjoy making yourself look like a fool?
03:10 AM on 12/03/2011
Working on it ,not telling anyone amd lettimg the Natives suffer.
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JPalka
07:31 AM on 12/03/2011
What is that 11? 2011-2005?
12:54 AM on 12/02/2011
Charlie has been working hard for Attawapiskat since at least 2005, if the Google News archives can be trusted. I've blogged it at http://www.thereginamom.com
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All Seeing Guy
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12:05 AM on 12/02/2011
I wanna know how much door knocking Charlie did up there during the election.
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12:15 AM on 12/02/2011
Ain't no doors to knock on.....that the problem!!!!!!!!!!
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All Seeing Guy
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12:19 AM on 12/02/2011
A problem I don't recall him talking about during the election.

"“Ain't no doors to knock on.....tha­t the problem!!!­!!!!!!!”"

He could have banged on the window of the Chief's Escalade.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
10:36 PM on 12/01/2011
Commentary from a real newspaper:

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/11/30/jonathan-kay-on-the-destitution-of-attawapiskat-close-the-place-down/#more-59374

"As Stephen Harper reminded the country this week, the federal government has spent $90-million on Attawapiskat alone in the past five years. (And that doesn’t even include the tens of millions more that have rolled in from the Ontario government, gambling proceeds, and local mining concerns.) All in all, Ottawa spends over $10 billion on the 400,000-plus aboriginals who live on Canadian reserves — a per-capita rate of government expenditure that would be the envy of any other constituency in the Western world. Money is not the problem. If it were, the native north would be a rich Scandinavian-style nordic paradise.

What’s the real problem? Do a thought experiment. Imagine a prosperous northern mining community that draws in thousands of non-aboriginal working families from all over the country. Now imagine that the mine closes down. There are no jobs. Everyone is broke. In the real world, the people would move away to jobs and schools and new lives. But in this artificial thought-experiment bubble-world, a government bureaucracy is instead established to bribe everyone to stay where they are — so they can preserve the culture of their old-fashioned mining town. Under the new regime, no one will have to get real jobs. However, they will have to submit to a clannish, unaccountable town council ....."
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Blodo
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11:10 PM on 12/01/2011
It's a red letter day, Stan. I actually agree with you on something. My solution is to abolish the Indian Act. The entire rez system is Canada's comfy, feel-good brand of apartheid and stems from what has been termed "the soft racism of low expectations." Shut 'er down.
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All Seeing Guy
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12:10 AM on 12/02/2011
I know eh, agreeing with Stan is a strange thing, but it is proof that there are indeed things that we can agree on across the political spectrum.
11:54 AM on 12/02/2011
And the legal precedents recognizing aboriginal rights, we just ignore that, and enourmous effort INAC has made with our money in infrastructure, just let it rust I guess. Dude you gots ta think a few more moves ahead then that. We made the decision to support it, signed treaties, so that is what we should do. And Clannish, dude that called culture, they use tribal councils, and healing circles. Your world view would not have signed a treaty, just warred until they were wiped out. Abondoning mining towns is so far from the point...
11:12 PM on 12/01/2011
"a government bureaucrac­y is instead establishe­d to bribe everyone to stay where they are"
what we have in Canada is basically a disguised apartheid. The only permanent remedy would be an abolishment of the indian act which simply has value today. There needs to be a reconciliation between the government and indigenous peoples that can benefit both sides, the system in place right now is almost as far from win-win as it gets.
10:03 PM on 12/01/2011
Audited financial statements are published at:
http://www.attawapiskat.org/financial-statements/
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10:16 PM on 12/01/2011
Thanks Tomek!
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
09:35 PM on 12/01/2011
Why no pictues or videos of the chief's house?
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12:20 AM on 12/02/2011
Do we get pictures of Dalton McGuinty's house? He makes way more than the chief at Att.
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12:26 AM on 12/02/2011
So does Harper and maybe one less trip in a helicopter for his staff....you know, small things added together can make a difference!
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
05:30 PM on 12/02/2011
You sure about that?
12:57 AM on 12/02/2011
You racist pig!
09:12 PM on 12/01/2011
The minister insisted his department did not have "an awareness of what was in the community until a few days after Oct. 28. "But he went on to tell McGregor that the feds had "people in the community" since April. "I don't understand," she interrupted. "You said you didn't know until Oct 28."

And the real kicker, this has been an issue in that community since 2009 when a sewage accident caused the whole problem.
12:58 AM on 12/02/2011
There have been big issues in the community, particularly around Indian Affairs, since at least 2005, according to a Google News Archives search.
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Wait... what?
04:43 AM on 12/02/2011
well interesting - isn't that roughly how long the harpies have been running the govt'? During the election campaign, in a field near the Mohawk reserve in south eastern Ontario, there was a highway trailer painted with big letters reading "Harper hates Indians". I get it now.