Slowdown In F-35 Production Urged

F35 Canada Jet

First Posted: 12/02/11 12:05 PM ET Updated: 12/02/11 02:56 PM ET

Production of early models of the F-35 Lightning II should slow down to help reduced costs after potential cracks and "hot spots" were found following testing, the U.S. military's program head says.


"The analyzed hot spots that have arisen in the last 12 months or so in the program have surprised us at the amount of change and at the cost," U.S. Vice-Admiral David Venlet said in an article posted online Thursday by AOL Defense.


"Most of them are little ones. But when you bundle them all up and package them, and look at where they are in the airplane and how hard they are to get at after you buy the jet, the cost burden of that is what sucks the wind out of your lungs," he said.


Venlet said the discovery of weaknesses in the fighter is not surprising.


"It's a fighter made out of metal and composites. You always find some hot spots and cracks and you have to go make fixes. That's normal," he said.


The aircraft, also known as the Joint Strike Fighter, is currently still in early production and testing. AOL Defence says only 18 per cent of flight-testing has been completed and fatigue testing is in initial phases.


The U.S. government has been buying small quantities of the fighter, and paying for design changes and required retrofits. A fifth batch of fighters — dubbed the Low Rate Initial Production Lot 5 contract — is under negotiation. The U.S. government is pushing Lockheed Martin, the prime contractor, to pick up part of the cost for changes in design and parts.


Slowing production now would help reduce costs of replacing parts on jets completed before testing is finalized, Venlet said.


He also indicated the future of the jet is not question, stating that the changes are not required for safety but to make the jets working lift last longer.


"The question for me is not: 'F-35 or not?'" Venlet said. "The question is, how many and how fast? I'm not questioning the ultimate inventory numbers, I'm questioning the pace that we ramp up production for us and the partners, and can we afford it?"


The United States plan to buy more than 2,400 F-35 fighters at a cost of more than $380 billion US it is expected to be the largest arms purchase in history.


Canada plans to buy 65 of the aircraft.


Earlier this month, Canadian Defence Minister Peter MacKay and U.S. Secretary of Defence Leon Panetta dismissed speculation that budget pressures will cause their countries to pull back from their F-35 jet purchases.


The Canadian Press also reported this month that delivery of the jets will spread out between 2016 and 2023, with most arriving after 2019, according to internal Defence Department figures. Canada's current fleet of 77 CF-18s is due to be retired by 2020.


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    A F-35 Lightning II sits on stage during the United Kingdom F-35 Lightning II delivery ceremony on July 19, 2012 at Lockheed Martin Corporation in Fort Worth, Texas. The ceremony marked the first international delivery of an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to a partner nation. (Photo by Tom Pennington/Getty Images)

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04:59 PM on 12/19/2011
"Canadian Defence Minister Peter MacKay and U.S. Secretary of Defence Leon Panetta dismissed speculation that budget pressures will cause their countries to pull back from their F-35 jet purchases."

Interesting then, that they already have. That's okay. Lying is part of democracy.
01:28 AM on 12/05/2011
what is really silly is that the u.s. jet makers have produced a beefed up version of the f-18 ( just put into service in 2010 in Great Britain) that is far less expensive than the f-35 and would easily be integrated into canada's aging cf-18 fleet with minimal cost of training of pilots and support staff

but i guess Harper's gov't doesn't think that's 'sexy'
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cmaurand
10:54 AM on 12/08/2011
The F/A 18 as good as it is, came out in early 80's. Some of them are older than their pilots. The new one's are good, but the F35 is so much better and more capable. It's stealthy and it has super-cruise (supersonic without afterburner).
11:36 AM on 12/08/2011
but the f35 DOES NOT WORK

and they have issues in the cold Arctic weather

the brits just put a bunch of the enhanced F18s into service in just 2010
i bet the learning curve for canadian pilots would have a much easier time to learn to fly the enhanced f18s
also, the maintenance curve is lower and i bet even most parts would work too

canada needs to buy military hardware intelligently
within budget and make sure they work too
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:52 PM on 12/19/2011
Not in the UK. Did you mean Australia?

You're right otherwise: the F35 is a three-legged dog.
06:12 AM on 12/20/2011
yes, Australia

I stand corrected

thanks for catching that
06:13 AM on 12/04/2011
Can you say Osprey? Pronounced OINK, OINK, OINK!!!!
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:02 PM on 12/19/2011
Rather too sharp a tool given the skills of most of its users.
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Transitteer
and another thing . . .
01:14 AM on 12/04/2011
If progress on this debacle progresses as it has, we'll never see this anomoly take to the air for anybody. But it's making someone rich . . . . .
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Kritikos
Intelligence is not a science
09:53 PM on 12/03/2011
Can you say 'boondoggle'?........Well, say it!........I can't hear you................, that's better.
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GreenCanadian
is mixing the new record
09:22 PM on 12/03/2011
This article was full of facts that would make a sensible person think twice about spending large amounts of money. Sounds like something Harper and his ditto heads will ignore.
09:05 PM on 12/03/2011
Nationalist militarism degenerates to treason when it is deployed on behalf of foreign economic and military interests.
03:09 PM on 12/03/2011
WORLDS FASTEST LEMON
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:52 PM on 12/19/2011
Not with those intakes.
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ADRealist
High expectations are the key to everything.
02:43 PM on 12/03/2011
But the real question is..... Can Sarah Palin use it to shoot Wolves without having to stand up?
12:58 PM on 12/03/2011
This deal is getting worse by the day. It seems each week we're treated to a new story outlining either how the unit price is going up, or that a new defect has been discovered.

The responsible move would have been to put out a request for proposals among the manufacturers, and sign a contract for a proven system at a fixed price. In the alternative, stick with the CF-18 for a few more years until the next generation of planes has proven themselves a bit more.
11:19 AM on 12/03/2011
Yes we need it bad!
I mean just think of the jobs that thing will produce and when they fall out of the sky someone with a ten-speed and trailer will be there to recycle them. By now the Avro Arrow would have ironed out the kinks and gone on and on.
Awake Oh Canada
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
07:56 AM on 12/03/2011
It's a lemon. Much like Harper himself.
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SiameseTrainer
...we are Sia..mese if you don't please..
12:56 AM on 12/03/2011
"Earlier this month, Canadian Defence Minister Peter MacKay and U.S. Secretary of Defence Leon Panetta dismissed speculation that budget pressures will cause their countries to pull back from their F-35 jet purchases."

Leon said "jump" and Peter, the typical tory said, "how high?", and he got it in one.
10:54 AM on 12/03/2011
With a back flip and a clean landing no less.
09:06 PM on 12/03/2011
None dare call it collaboration.
12:49 AM on 12/03/2011
Well at least the fighters won't be able to attack ships or tell allied troops from the enemy with the original computer configurations so we really are getting nice planes for Airshows and Photoops. By the time we get the planes with the cost overruns purchased with the remainder of the hardware and software stripped off of them to let them at least be purchased for only 100% over the original forecasted price the only one who will be able to use these things will be Peter M. on his next fishing trip..
12:48 AM on 12/03/2011
WOW! They can land vertically. Just what Peter McKay needs for his next fishing trip.