Liberal Party Back In Second Place In Poll

The Huffington Post Canada   First Posted: 12/02/11 03:25 PM ET Updated: 12/02/11 03:58 PM ET

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With an election almost four years away, the stakes are low. But are the Liberals really back in second place?

With an election almost four years away, the stakes are low. But are the Liberals really back in second place?

A poll released this week by Nanos Research to The Globe and Mail and CTV indicated that the Liberals had pulled ahead of the New Democrats. Though a 28.1 per cent to 27.3 per cent lead is nothing extraordinary, and considering the margin of error it isn’t much of a lead at all, it did grab some attention. Has the moribund third party already recovered?

This is not the first time after the May election that the Liberals have placed second in the national horserace. A poll by Nanos in the middle of the summer gave the party a 0.2-point lead over the NDP.

The two most recent polls by Ipsos-Reid and Harris-Decima pegged Liberal support at between 21 and 22 per cent, or virtually unchanged since the election, but that was in early November. The Nanos poll, taken November 16-21, coincided with a lot of press coverage on the Liberals and their plans for renewal. The survey may be a reflection of this extra attention.

But one of the most striking results in this poll is the Liberal lead in Ontario: 38.8 per cent to 37.2 per cent for the Conservatives. Though this is the highest result for the Liberals since mid-April, it is not an outlandish number. Other polls have shown Liberal gains in the province over the last few months.

The Ontario election won by Dalton McGuinty in early October may have helped, but cannot explain away the lead. Nanos last surveyed Ontarians weeks after the provincial vote had been held. The Liberals were only at 30.5 per cent support at that time in late October, and the 8.3-point gain since then is far removed from the provincial campaign.

But the biggest point of contention is in Quebec. Nanos is comfortably situated with every other poll in pegging NDP support. This is the fifth consecutive survey to show the NDP dropping below 40 per cent. But when it comes to other parties there is far less consensus.

In this week’s poll the Liberals were second behind the NDP in the province with 23.6 per cent support, a gain of 5.4 points since October. But polls from Quebec-based firms CROP and Léger taken around the same time showed Liberal support holding flat, and no one else has had the Liberals over 20 per cent in Quebec since the election campaign.

Where the Bloc stands in Quebec’s horserace is also up for debate. Nanos has consistently put the Bloc Québécois in the mid-teens. They stood at 15.9 per cent in this poll, virtually unchanged over the last three surveys from the firm. But other pollsters have consistently put the Bloc at over 20 per cent support, and the most recent numbers from CROP and Léger show the party making relatively significant gains over the last month.

Nanos Research has a good track record, and it could very well be that the firm is closer to the mark than its rivals. Determining the voting intentions of Canadians years before they will actually be asked to vote is always a difficult proposition – people are simply not paying much attention. But are the Liberals the alternative to the Tories once again? One poll is not enough, so the jury is still out for want of corroborating evidence.

Éric Grenier taps The Pulse of federal and regional politics for Huffington Post Canada readers on most Tuesdays and Fridays. Grenier is the author of ThreeHundredEight.com, covering Canadian politics, polls, and electoral projections.

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With an election almost four years away, the stakes are low. But are the Liberals really back in second place? A poll released this week by Nanos Research to The Globe and Mail and CTV indicated th...
With an election almost four years away, the stakes are low. But are the Liberals really back in second place? A poll released this week by Nanos Research to The Globe and Mail and CTV indicated th...
 
 
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07:57 PM on 01/02/2012
There is a wide-open, centre niche ready for the Liberal Party that will return them to power if they can work it.The niche consists of social progressiveness coupled to fiscal responsibility.
The Harper government has adopted the borrow and spend fiscal package that has bankrupted California and ,perhaps, the federal gov't in the USA. The cushion that the Liberals left Harper is gone and deficit spending is on the rise. Meanwhile, policies that many Canadians find socially regressive like the removall of the gun registry, the testing of the abortion debate, the re-structuring of health insurance and, now, the opening of a religion department are very exploitable.
If the Liberals work the progressive side of social issues and the pay-as-you-go fiscal policies of the last Liberal government they will do well in all urban centres where the majority of voters reside.
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Ted Rosa
11:27 AM on 12/09/2011
Only goes to prove that any other party with a 'perceived' leader, would be a better bet than SH., in the next election....
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03:44 PM on 12/04/2011
the Liberal growth is just beginning as more and more traditional NDP'ers will flee the new Quebec centric party I like to call the New BLOCacrats.
02:52 PM on 12/04/2011
The Liberals gaining ground in the polls ??? Amazing !!!! Wait a moment, the only place they can go is up right???
Proves one thing, respondents to the poll have shown their appreciation to the Liberal Party for getting rid of Iggy and Silly Dionne, and making sure Bob Rae cant run for the leadership!
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JackHoffman
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06:01 AM on 12/04/2011
The left must merge or we'll be faced with these Reform (Tea) Party yahoos running the show for another four years.
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and another thing . . .
01:17 AM on 12/04/2011
The Liberals will be back at some point - the Tories will self-destruct and most Canadians prefer middle-of-the-road Party's, not far left or far right. The next election will see if there really was a shift to the right for the Tories, or whether it was just an anomoly. I suspect an anomoly.
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05:53 PM on 12/03/2011
Huff Post, how much are the Libs paying you for all this coverage? This is a story that is two weeks old. You mean to say you only became aware of it in the last couple of days?

All you Libs asserting the NDP's demise, yep, you go ahead. Keep telling yourselves that.
12:59 PM on 12/03/2011
The establishment hopes that this is true. They would prefer that oligarchy permanently supplants democracy by limiting the choices to corporate light and corporate heavy legitimized by spurious election propaganda campaigns. After all, this model has worked very effectively elsewhere.
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09:15 PM on 12/02/2011
The Libs will make some serious gains as the NDP continues to morph into New BLOCacrats and becomes more and more Que centric. That big "win" in Que may in fact be the doom of the NDP as we knew it. Evidence of a focus on Que has already been very obvious. As time goes on more of the "traditional" NDP will feel and be disenfranchised. In fact a major split is a distinct possibility. Many will hang their hats on the Liberal rack, some will try to start a new party,,and just to throw salt in throw wound they will have to get a new name, because Que owns the old one now. How can ya not luv politics? It's like a soap opera crossed with greatest game on earth,lol. And you never know what the outcome may be,
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07:57 PM on 12/02/2011
Is the NDP still out there? Sorry Jack. You were the best. The NDP has lost their way. A leadership vote in March is far to late.
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Tony frm Banff
Search for truth,not spin
07:42 PM on 12/02/2011
Are the Liberals the alternative to the Torys once again? Well duh...come 2015 you can bet on it.
05:35 PM on 12/02/2011
The Liberals and the NDP are just scavenging votes off each other - its time for a merger.
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
04:33 PM on 12/02/2011
All these polls are pointless untill the Liberals and the NDP have elected new leaders.Keyword to note for our Liberal friends "elected". lol
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Jack Cox
Telling it like it is.
04:17 PM on 12/02/2011
Liberals must focus on the future, This poll is meaningless until the party is completely reformed, The Liberal must keep their eye on the ball.
BritishColumbian
American/Canadian liberal
04:06 PM on 12/02/2011
So the analysis of the poll is it is too early and the results are too close and did not include that the Conservatives dropped two points.