Jim Hillyer: MP Celebrates Gun Registry Vote With Finger Guns (VIDEO)

The Huffington Post Canada   First Posted: 12/06/11 02:40 PM ET Updated: 12/06/11 03:28 PM ET

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Tory MP Jim Hillyer celebrated last month's vote to abolish the gun registry with finger guns and now the video is starting to grab attention.

Yosemite Sam, Shooter McGavin, Jim Hillyer.

The Tory MP from Lethbridge, Alberta celebrated last month's vote to abolish the gun registry with finger guns and now the video is starting to grab attention online.

The Liberals are saying Hillyer's celebration showed a lack of respect for shooting victims, according to CJAD Radio.

The vote took place last month, but the video appeared on YouTube today, seemingly timed to coincide with the anniversary of the Montreal Massacre and the demonstrations that are marking it on Parliament Hill and elsewhere.

Hundreds gathered in Ottawa Tuesday to commemorate the the slaying of 14 women at the Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal 22 years ago. Many are upset about the Conservatives' move to abolish the long-gun registry. Conservative MPs were not invited to the proceedings in Ottawa.

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The video appeared on the same YouTube channel which brought a video of Tory MP Rob Anders falling asleep to light in November. Anders subsequently said his sleepiness was the result of a recent car accident.


  • What does this new bill on the gun registry do?

    We keep hearing about scrapping the long-gun registry, but really what we're talking about is scrapping the requirement for people to register their rifles and shotguns - that's what Bill C-19 aims to do by making amendments to the Criminal Code and Firearms Act. Once passed, people will not have to register their non-restricted or non-prohibited firearms. It also provides for the destruction of existing records in the Canadian Firearms Registry for those firearms. <em>With files from CBC</em>

  • What exactly is the registry?

    It's a centralized database overseen by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police that links firearms with their licensed owners. It contains information about all three types of guns that must be registered - non-restricted, restricted and prohibited. (All firearms must be registered.) To register a firearm, you have to have a licence to possess it.

  • Does the bill make any changes to licensing requirements?

    No. Canadian residents need a licence in order to possess and register a firearm or ammunition and that won't change. There are a couple of different kinds of licences because of various changes to laws and regulations over the years.

  • What are long guns?

    There are three types of guns under Canadian law: non-restricted, restricted and prohibited. Most common long guns - rifles and shotguns - are non-restricted but there are a few exceptions. A sawed-off shotgun, for example, is a prohibited firearm. A handgun is an example of a restricted firearm. Different regulations apply to different classifications of firearms.

  • How many guns are we talking about?

    As of September 2011, there were about 7.8 million registered guns. Of those, 7.1 million are non-restricted firearms.

  • Why does the government want to get rid of the long-gun registry?

    The government says it is wasteful and ineffective at reducing crime and targets law-abiding gun owners instead of criminals, who don't register their firearms.

  • Who wants to keep it?

    Police and victims' groups are big supporters of the registry. Police say the database helps them evaluate a potential safety threat when they pull a vehicle over or are called to a residence. They also say it helps support police investigations because the registry can help determine if a gun was stolen, illegally imported, acquired or manufactured. This year, the RCMP says police agencies accessed it on average more than 17,000 times a day.

  • When will the registry cease to exist?

    The government has passed the legislation and the registry no longer exists. Except for in Quebec, where an ongoing court challenge means the owners must still register their guns in the province.

  • Why does the government want to destroy the records?

    The government is doing this to ensure that no future non-Conservative government can recreate the registry. Public Safety Minister Vic Toews has also made it clear that if any province wants to set up its own registry it would get no help from the federal government. The Conservatives are so fundamentally opposed to the existence of the records, because they say they focus on law-abiding citizens instead of criminals, that they don't want them available for anyone to use.

  • How much does the registry cost?

    The registry cost more than $1 billion to set up in 1995 and the cost was the source of much controversy. Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said on Oct. 25 that the government's best estimate is that it costs about $22 million a year to operate. That's the entire registry, not just the long-gun portion, but he noted most of the guns in the registry are long guns. He said he didn't know how much money scrapping the requirement to register long guns would save the government. Conservative MP Candice Hoeppner says there are also "hidden costs" that are borne by provincial and municipal police agencies to enforce the registry.

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Yosemite Sam, Shooter McGavin, Jim Hillyer. The Tory MP from Lethbridge, Alberta celebrated last month's vote to abolish the gun registry with finger guns and now the video is starting to ...
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10:37 AM on 12/08/2011
Once again, the masses miss the mark on this topic. The long gun registry has done NOTHING to save a life. It has DONE NOTHING to prevent gun violence. This Liberal boondoggle has been a money pit since it's inception. Take the money from the Long Gun Registry and put it to work in places like, more policing, women's shelters, mental health care, ect.
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BBlitzer
My micro-bio is empty
11:02 AM on 12/08/2011
If only that was what it will be spent on. Rather it will be spent on an omnibus bill that will do nothing at all to reduce crime in this country as proven time and time again. Heck TEXAS says it is too extreme and does not work.
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
10:46 PM on 12/07/2011
Yea another smiling CON on HP pages...
Boy only mutual mastu-bation could explain it...
10:18 AM on 12/07/2011
What do you expect from a guy like this, a "Tory", no conscious, and very disrespectful. They consider themselves above the law. Then jerks like us vote them in. Millions of dollars already spent on this registry, and law enforcement advising them not to destroy it. Harper swings his batton and they all jump like puppets.
09:08 AM on 12/07/2011
i find it so strange that the "law 'n' order" party is destroying the gun registry AND all records even though police all over Canada say it helps them with law enforcement

i guess harpo et all only support police when it suits them?
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viennawoods
Proud to be a Canadian Liberal!!
10:05 PM on 12/07/2011
Yes, and former Ontario top cop Fantino supported the registry... until he joined the Cons in govt and now all of a sudden he doesn't support it. Funny that.
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colpy
08:41 AM on 12/07/2011
I'm not sure I will ever get over the shock and horror I felt at viewing this video.

I may need a government intervention for assessment and psychological treatment.

Seriously, I'd have made finger motions at the opposition benches as well during this vote.....but I'd only have used one finger.
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hagagaga
My comments are funnier than yours.
10:30 PM on 12/06/2011
"One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ... Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms."
-Vladimir Illyich Lenin
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colpy
08:03 AM on 12/07/2011
"Political power comes out of the barrel of a gun"
- Mao Zedong

Those old commie murderers sure understood power.

And did whatever necessary to keep it out of the hands of the people.
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tooldude
09:56 PM on 12/06/2011
Oh the horror !! Better implement a national finger registry.
09:09 AM on 12/07/2011
and wasn't the anniversary of the Montreal massacre just recently?

tory hubris and disrespect indeed

and he's from Alberta

'nuff said
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colpy
09:35 AM on 12/07/2011
Oh give it a break!

You complain about "Tory hubris", and then condemn the man because he is from Alberta????

The anniversary was yesterday. (Dec. 6) The vote with the tragic and monstrous finger movements was on Nov. 1.

Now, shall we reflect on the purpose of those that would post this non news item, on a non-issue on Dec. 6?????
freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
08:54 PM on 12/06/2011
Was that today???

What impresses me most about the CPC is their sensitivity and empathy. Notice how the Hon. member for Lethbridge was careful not to exceed Lepine's total! How he is not Minister for the Status of Women I'll never know.
08:18 PM on 12/06/2011
The ignorance of the the Harper government makes me ashamed to be a Canadian. Their mindset is so mean-spirited and absent of compassion - all about punishment and retribution and celebrating inequality. They are eliminating gun registrations, imposing social reforms consisting mostly of sending more people to jail, giving police the power to spy on everybody's Internet usage without a warrant, spending billions on on useless F-35 fighters while cutting social services, and limiting help to native people to donuts and audits ... all the while rewarding the wealthy with tax breaks and the desire to cut their taxes still further. The Harper gang is sick, sick, sick, and I am so ashamed that we as Canadians voted them into office.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
07:34 PM on 12/06/2011
If Harper really is an evil genius bent on destroying Canada and selling you all into slavery to Halliburton, wouldn't you want own guns?
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colpy
08:39 PM on 12/06/2011
Check out the poll above. It appears 65% of Canadians are complete idiots.
09:11 AM on 12/07/2011
i think the 39% that voted harpo into majority need a psych consult
07:03 PM on 12/06/2011
More like America every day in every way. Harper is the biggest threat Canada has ever faced.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
06:58 PM on 12/06/2011
The children are mad at the adults again....
07:25 PM on 12/06/2011
What is adult about playing with guns? Your persistent point of children against adults is sad in that children are the most loving and understanding people in society. Children are not born with judgement in their minds, children are optimistic, and are constantly able to find the beauty and awe in the most mundane things. I understand you are saying that children do not have an understanding of the world, are needy and are easily upset in this metaphor. Look at a child you know, either you view them with optimism and believe they will accomplish their dreams, or, you tell them from the day they are born that the world works against them and teach them to be cynical in every way. How would you want to raise your child?
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
07:31 PM on 12/06/2011
Right.
Never seen high school girls interact with each other?

The adult comment refers to the fact that the gun registry was never designed to control guns, it was a cynical and disgusting use of a tragedy by the liberals to gain political advantage.
They KNEW it was bad policy, that's why they enacted it.
http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/Article75.htm
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Leon Hodgkinson
06:23 PM on 12/06/2011
If you are familiar with Lethbridge and southern Alberta, this should not surprise you. I've lived there all my life. The people there are very open-minded - they like country and western music, and they actually drive different brands of truck.
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Amorak
06:12 PM on 12/06/2011
These conservatives are simply not likable people. I have never before seen politicians like this. They go out of their way to alienate people! About 24% of Canada's population voted for them in the last election. Do the conservatives have to behave like this in order to keep that 24%? No! My guess is that the conservatives alienate more people from the 76% who did not vote for them than they win over from the 24% who did vote for them.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
06:56 PM on 12/06/2011
Read and learn:

http://www­.lowe.ca/R­ick/Firear­msLegislat­ion/AGangT­hatCouldn'tShootStr­aight.html
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Amorak
07:10 PM on 12/06/2011
The link doesn't shoot straight, CStan!
11:21 AM on 12/07/2011
CanadaStan, you portray yourself as some kind of a feathered thing, so please go and hatch and get what ever is stuck up you out...maybe an egg, sure not an extension of your brain.
07:05 PM on 12/06/2011
Yes you have seen them south of the border. They are called Republicans.
06:10 PM on 12/06/2011
Yipee!!!! A little more freedom for Canadians