Durban Climate Change Deal Praised By Canadian Companies

First Posted: 12/13/11 08:07 PM ET Updated: 12/14/11 09:27 PM ET

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The Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers offered some praise for the Durban agreement on climate change, suggesting it's an improvement over the Kyoto accord which did not include hard targets on some of the major carbon emitters.


"In some ways Canada has been disassociating itself from Kyoto from sometime, so it certainly isn't a surprise to us that the government went ahead and exercised its legal right to withdraw from the agreement," said Tom Huffaker vice president for policy and environment with CAPP, who was in Durban during the climate change negotiations.


"From our perspective, just as it makes sense to have, in a domestic economy, all the emitters at the table, with a role to play in addressing the problem, it also makes sense to us internationally to have all the emitters at that table. And obviously Kyoto didn't have all the emitters at the table with targets," Huffaker told CBCNews.ca.


While countries like China, India and Brazil were signatories to the Kyoto Accord, they weren't obliged to meet emission targets.


The proposed Durban Platform would put all countries under the same legal regime enforcing commitments to control greenhouse gases. It would take effect by 2020 at the latest.


Huffaker said that the Durban Platform "sounds positive to us," adding that "the idea that all countries would be at the table with targets makes sense."


"Obviously it's early days in the language around where we're going forward. It's not detailed and precise. However it we do get to an agreement that includes everybody and includes everybody with hard targets, I think that's pretty meaningful in terms of dealing with GHG levels globally."


Huffaker said while the issue of Canada's participation in Kyoto did come up in discussions in Durban, he said it wasn't a "dominant issue."


But he added that the issue of the oilsands did not come up at all, except from Canadian activist groups and media.


"People just weren't talking about it," he said.


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montezaro
10:36 AM on 12/14/2011
And the fox said: chickens will be much better off if we remove those nasty chicken wires.
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Glass Cannon
Let every eye negotiate for itself.
10:19 AM on 12/14/2011
As long as the oil companies are happy. What could possibly go wrong?
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northof49th
06:38 AM on 12/14/2011
Well thats a no brainer do you think for one moment Harper knows anything about the environment no he's a trained monkey doing what the organ grinder wants. Corporate tin can filling up with our money.
02:40 AM on 12/14/2011
The idea that countries will ever let some global government determine their emissions and thus prosperity is as offensive as it is delusional.
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canuckistaneh
Science!
12:43 AM on 12/14/2011
Neocons don't believe in science, only ideology. Facts get in the way.
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sdgreen
01:08 AM on 12/14/2011
Why then is Canada with a Conservative government reflecting the need that all nations, including the big polluter nations like China, India, and the United States comply with GHG reduction?
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
01:57 AM on 12/14/2011
Because they' were (past tense) calculating that China, India and the US would never actually agree to any kind of emission reduction standards and they'd never have to do anything but pay lip service to the things that threaten the futures of those after they're all dead.
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Tony frm Banff
Search for truth,not spin
12:23 AM on 12/14/2011
Food for thought of how much Co2 is prodused from a gallon of gasoline.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/co2.shtmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol
also Kyoto
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12:22 AM on 12/14/2011
What happened to Canada?
Bushitis?
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Tony frm Banff
Search for truth,not spin
12:29 AM on 12/14/2011
And badly, its getting scary when the dim bulbs are running the country. Know what I mean?
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12:32 AM on 12/14/2011
Yeah. Looks like the've got their own TBgrs.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
11:38 PM on 12/13/2011
Still waiting for a green to explain how the Kyoto treaty would reduce emissions and real pollution.

After 15 years, shouldn't someone be able to answer that?
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Tony frm Banff
Search for truth,not spin
11:59 PM on 12/13/2011
There were targets for it, but nobody wanted to play.It would reduce emmisions, there was 191 countrys that were signed up to it as of Sept 2011.
Google it, heck wickipedia it, the info is there for you to see, but I do not expect that from you.
Anyways this new "Durban Platform" is actually worse, because there is no targets set yet.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
12:41 PM on 12/14/2011
You say it would reduce emissions?
How?

All that would happen is more production would go to the higher polluting factories in China.
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okgranny
Egalitarian by birth
11:09 PM on 12/13/2011
Oh dear, that's creepy. I don't think we want whatever the oil companies want. I don't think they are interested in people, only profits.
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MyTake
Release the Hydrogen Economy now!
11:00 PM on 12/13/2011
If the OIL CARTEL Klaps up the UN, it is proof positive that Durban is a "global taxation" scam and to hell with the environment.

Strange, the Media never reported that it was a "POLLUTION FREE" Hydrogen Fuel Cell electrical generation unit that provided the power for cell and video communication for those two weeks.

Yet, here are examples of the emerging Hydrogen Economy, in the meantime.

This pollution free 11.2 MW Fuel Cell Park became operationa­­l in South Korea recently and can supply POLLUTION FREE free power to 20K homes just from a 1 acre of land footprint: http://tin­­yurl.com/­6­skgw9h .

This outfit in the U.S. puts up Hydrogen Gas Plants and sells the Hydrogen Gas, by pipeline, to all of the Gulf Coast Oil Refineries in the U.S. which they use to try and reduce the POLLUTION from their coking processes: http://tin­­yurl.com/­6­umyf7f .

Mercedes Benz is PRODUCTION READY with their Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric vehicle technology but The Oil Cartel will not install Hydrogen Gas pumps on their lots. Here is one of their cars that drove 33,000 pollution and trouble free kilometers this past summer and was found nudging a "oil jack": http://tin­­yurl.com/­6­nxrcq2 .

The Fuel Cell electricity Plant can power the Hydrogen Gas Plant that can fuel this "pollution free" cars.

Proof positive that the UN Climate Krap is a scam since they are not collectively pleading for the release of the Hydrogen Economy.
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Tony frm Banff
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12:01 AM on 12/14/2011
And in Canada we have dirty oil.
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Shandra Brown Valyear
Political Addict
10:30 PM on 12/13/2011
It will take until about 2020 to take effect. No wonder they are so happy, they can continue to destroy the environment for profit for another 10 years!
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Runey
religion is why we can't have nice things.
06:22 AM on 12/14/2011
absolutely, at which point they will just obfuscate the issue into oblivion.
10:16 PM on 12/13/2011
What Big Oil wants, Big Oil gets. Especially from their Conservative toadies.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
10:46 PM on 12/13/2011
90% of oil is owned by government oil companies like StatOil and and SaudiAramco etc.

Big Oil is Big government.
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Tony frm Banff
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12:03 AM on 12/14/2011
Now your getting it!
12:23 AM on 12/14/2011
Well....if scientists at the Cern Institute have proved there no such thing as God....proving climate change seems a little simplistic :)
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Bubblessharky
Where sanity dares to tread
09:24 PM on 12/13/2011
What a surprise that the oil companies are happy!! How much lobbying did they have to put in to get the government to can Kyoto.

What an embarressment and disgrace for Canada.
09:36 PM on 12/13/2011
The turdies received a down payment on the next election.
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Rob Vann
Hope for the best,Plan for the worst,Take what cms
10:06 PM on 12/13/2011
Considering we subsidize these corporate donkeys to the tune of 1.5 billion annually. they have lots of hard earned tax dollars to fund their lobbying efforts. I'm starting to feel a pain in my butt.
09:17 PM on 12/13/2011
Hillarious.

That anyone would take the bitumen sand's CAPP apologist at his word is hillarious. Unlike bitumen, this guy is totally transparent.
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Norma Ward
09:11 PM on 12/13/2011
Here is an article that outlines how the world's Arctic ice distribution and thickness has changed over the past 3 decades:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/12/our-changing-arctic-is-change-permanent.html

While these changes may be due to normal environmental fluctuations, they may also be a result of a long-term change in global climate. Unfortunately, we won't know until it is too late.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
10:47 PM on 12/13/2011
30 years?
You're kidding, right?
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o3mta3o
03:42 AM on 12/14/2011
the fact that it's changed so drastically in 30 years is exactly the point.
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Runey
religion is why we can't have nice things.
06:25 AM on 12/14/2011
you ever wonder why you get no fav's for over simplified comments like these?
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11:46 PM on 12/13/2011
exactly, we will not know till it is too late. So why carbon tax the population into the poor house when it will not make a difference? When you get all countries on board to seriously discuss how to reduce emissions fairly then maybe.. just maybe something positive can be done.
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12:49 AM on 12/14/2011
That's like saying "Why help people who are homeless now?"
It has to start somewhere.