NDP Leadership: Thomas Mulcair Leads By Wide Margin In New Poll
With the NDP’s support beginning to slip in Quebec, a recent survey from Forum Research indicates that among the party’s supporters Thomas Mulcair is the leadership candidate seen as the best person for the job.
The Huffington Post CanadaEric Grenier
First Posted: 12/20/11 07:32 AM ETUpdated: 12/20/11 08:14 AM ET
With the NDP’s support beginning to slip in Quebec, a recent survey from Forum Research indicates that among the party’s supporters Thomas Mulcair is the leadership candidate seen as the best person for the job.
The poll, conducted on December 13 and surveying some 300 NDP supporters, suggests that roughly half (47 per cent) of the party’s voters are unsure who would make the best leader. But of the 53 per cent who expressed an opinion, Mulcair garnered 45 per cent support, well ahead of fellow MP Peggy Nash (16 per cent).
Brian Topp, seen in some circles as the favourite to win, had only eight per cent support, tied with the 29-year-old Manitoba MP Niki Ashton.
Of course, this sample size of NDP supporters was very small. The sample of those who know who they want as the party’s next leader is even smaller, giving this survey a large margin of error (roughly +/- six per cent among supporters and eight per cent among decided supporters). However, even taking this into account, it still appears Mulcair has a real lead over his rivals.
But does it matter? After all, it is the 95,000-plus members of the New Democratic Party that will be deciding who becomes the next leader, not the millions of Canadians who voted for the NDP in May. Paul Dewar, one of the presumed top contenders who had four per cent support among decided voters, dismissed the Forum poll as measuring “name recognition” only.
If that’s the case, and it could very well be, that is a problem for the NDP.
The leadership campaign has now been underway for more than three months. There have already been two debates, one organized by the party and another by the B.C. New Democrats. While the average NDP member undoubtedly has a much better idea of who the nine leadership candidates are than the average NDP supporter, it is the latter that will determine whether the party forms the next government.
This poll does not tell us who is most likely to win the leadership race, but it does tell us who Canadians want the party to choose. At this stage, that person is Thomas Mulcair.
And if the poll is all about name recognition, that is not a good sign for Peggy Nash, Paul Dewar and Brian Topp, seen as top tier contenders alongside the veteran Quebec MP Mulcair. While Mulcair’s name recognition is good (about 24 per cent among all NDP supporters, including those undecided on the leadership question), Nash’s is at only eight percent. Topp’s has half that, and Dewar even less.
Whereas Mulcair is already a recognized figure among the party’s supporters and beyond, the other candidates still have a lot of work to do to spread their names. Otherwise, while Nash, Topp or Dewar may win a majority of votes among NDP members in March, the rest of the country, and even those likely to vote NDP, may shrug “Brian/Peggy/Paul who?”
Éric Grenier taps The Pulse of federal and regional politics for Huffington Post Canada readers on most Tuesdays and Fridays. Grenier is the author of ThreeHundredEight.com, covering Canadian politics, polls, and electoral projections.
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This is a question I get from party members everywhere I go. New Democrats want to win in 2015. And they want to know that the candidates have a plan to win and then to govern well. I believe that the key to winning is to offer a clear and positive social democratic agenda for change. We don't have to become Liberals to win. We don't have to defeat ourselves even as we win by adopting the priorities and agendas of our opponents -- by becoming what we are fighting to change.
And we don't have to borrow from the Conservative playbook by practicing the cynical politics of division and anger. For every criticism we make of or opponents, we have to offer a positive solution in its place. In my campaign I have offered a series of detailed proposals to improve the fairness of our tax system and I will be releasing major policy initiatives aimed at building a more equal, greener and just Canada. In the end, New Democrats win by staying positive, by offering a clear and practical agenda for change, and by having the courage of our convictions.
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This is a question I get from party members everywhere I go. New Democrats want to win in 2015. And they want to know that the candidates have a plan to win and then to govern well. I believe that the key to winning is to offer a clear and positive social democratic agenda for change. We don't have to become Liberals to win. We don't have to defeat ourselves even as we win by adopting the priorities and agendas of our opponents -- by becoming what we are fighting to change.
And we don't have to borrow from the Conservative playbook by practicing the cynical politics of division and anger. For every criticism we make of or opponents, we have to offer a positive solution in its place. In my campaign I have offered a series of detailed proposals to improve the fairness of our tax system and I will be releasing major policy initiatives aimed at building a more equal, greener and just Canada. In the end, New Democrats win by staying positive, by offering a clear and practical agenda for change, and by having the courage of our convictions.
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I liked Jack a lot, but when he recommended Turmel to replace him, and when he advised the party to make a long leadership race to replace him as he was dying, he was not showing the instincts of the leader of the Official Opposition, but of a small opposition party. In the past, the NDP could have done this very well, going into deep sleep for months, losing its best MPs to a leadership race with an unexperienced temporary leader with little presence.
But this isn't the past. The NDP is the Official Opposition and it can't do that, leaving the spotlight to the Conservatives in government and to a media-savvy and experienced Bob Rae, both of whom are really outmaneuvering the party. It doesn't help either that the mainstream Canadian media has sympathies for the Conservatives and the Liberals, but almost none for the NDP. No newspaper endorsed the NDP last election for example. The NDP has to impose itself on the media to "earn" coverage, and it is failing at that... much of the media still considers the Official Opposition to be the Liberals.
valar84: The NDP has a big image problem in the media.
The NDP have a classic problem. After years with the same leader they find themselves suddenly having to pick a leader out of a pack of relative unknowns. Lower poll numbers are to be expected until the new leader both establishes themselves AND, more importantly, impresses. He (or she) will have plenty of time since the next election won't be for some time.
opprobrious: The NDP have a classic problem. After years with the
i don't believe this, and if it is true i don't understand it. People who responded must just be listening to the main stream media and not paying attentin to the debates. Only one person did well in all the debates and that's nathan cullen. Mulclair didn't even seem to interest the people in the audience.
If NDP collapses in Quebec and they lose 50 seats there and the Liberals leader gains credibility and seats at the next election, the NDP will crash down into being the "third party of the House".
Logic would state that the NDP should choose a leader that would be popular in Quebec (as the rest of Canada).
Awake-and-Sing: If NDP collapses in Quebec and they lose 50 seats
Thomas Mulcair, the apparent frontrunner, has only 24% name recognition among the people that will be choosing the next party leader?!! The leadership race started 3 months ago and most party supporters don't even know who is running. If that level of engagement applies to the other parties as well, then it's no wonder the state of Canadian politics is so abysmal.
tibi: Thomas Mulcair, the apparent frontrunner, has only 24% name recognition
I don't think many people care as to who is running at the party level. If you are saying the delegates don't even know then that is scary. However, Topp doesn't have a political history at the polls. In 2007 in Outremont he won 11 374 votes or 47%. Mulcair in 2008 won 14 348 votes for 39%. In 2011 Mulcair won 21 906 votes for 56%. Previous in provincial elections, 2008, he received 25 363 votes or 71%. In 1998 and 1994 they are the same. The point is he has the numbers and people don't forget when the time comes. He is for the environment, on record.
piceaglauca: I don't think many people care as to who is
The point I was trying to make is that the level of disengagement is staggering. One might expect that party supporters would at least have some idea of who is running to lead them by now regardless of the candidates' political profiles.
Not far off this topic, I continue to be appalled that so many Canadians are not aware that the nazis were socialists/left wing, not right wing. When my son asked his 12th Grade teacher this question, he was told that they were right wing but when he countered this answer with a well researched response proving they were socialists, the teacher went red-faced and refused to continue the discussion, apparently not wanting to acknowledge that Hitler was one of theirs/left wing. Even rudimentary research will support this. Sheesh! I guess the left had Stalin, Mao and Castro and didn't want to add Hitler to the list! Check Wikipedia or any unbiased source of history!
CONSERVATIVEONLY: Not far off this topic, I continue to be appalled
That is so much utter rubbish. All the totalitarian regimes we have had since the beginning of the 20th century have been the foulest, most brutal, left wing groups that ever walked the earth.
Ansdlmol: That is so much utter rubbish. All the totalitarian regimes
At their inception, the Nazis considered themselves to be a socialist party bent on reestablishing the strong Germany that was lost in WWI. They appealed to a poverty stricken populace that was pedominant in a Germany that was a shadow of it's former self.
But by the time the Hitler led Nazis were rampaging through Europe, they were socialist in name only. By then their political ideology more closely resembled fascists like Mussolini.
TonyOnly: At their inception, the Nazis considered themselves to be a
If after a decade as leader, Jack Layton, the most popular leader the NDP ever had, couldn't win an election, the NDP are kidding themselves if they think they can win without him. Especially first time out of the blocks.
Who they choose as leader doesn't matter. The only question is, how far will they fall?
TonyOnly: If after a decade as leader, Jack Layton, the most
When Kebec is booted out of CANADA, Thomas Mulcair can leave with it to be with his Metis/Metisse compadres. Then he can live in Joual and die in it if necessary.
Kenneth_T_Tellis: When Kebec is booted out of CANADA, Thomas Mulcair can
Ask 1000 Canadians who the candidates for the GOP presidential race are and who the candidates for leadership of the NDP are
The fact is it doesn't matter who leads the NDP. Their results in the last election were a once in a lifetime coincidence of Jack Layton hitting his most charismatic stride, with the collapse of the Liberal and Bloc parties at the same time. An event that will never happen again no matter who they choose to lead
AuContraire: Ask 1000 Canadians who the candidates for the GOP presidential
The NDP are hardly proposing a system comparable to the USSR and you know it. There are lots of social democratic states that are successful and prosperous, like Denmark, Sweden, Norway....
But please, carry on with the hyperbole, it says so much more about you than it does about the NDP.
Jack_Hope: The NDP are hardly proposing a system comparable to the
You know what would be nice? Instead of putting faces up there, put platforms. Have a very simple My Stance on: Kyoto...no/yes, etc. On the big things. Who cares what they look like anyway? They're all wolves.
teeleecee: You know what would be nice? Instead of putting faces
The Huffington Post Canada Eric Grenier First Posted: 12/20/11 07:32 AM ET Updated: 12/20/11 08:14 AM ET