Ronald Smith Execution: Governor Brian Schweitzer To Decide Fate Of Only Canadian On Death Row

First Posted: 12/23/2011 3:25 am EST Updated: 05/09/2013 7:34 pm EDT

CALGARY - A life-long rancher and businessman with a reputation as a rebel in an ultra-conservative American state will probably be the one to decide the fate of the only Canadian on death row.

"I'm very difficult to pigeonhole as to what my politics are. I'm a pickup-drivin', gun-packin', meat-eatin', balance-the-budget, invest-in-education Democrat," Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer said in an interview last year with The Canadian Press.

"Anybody who says they are absolutely sure about the death penalty is either in denial themselves or has not been paying attention, so I'm not absolutely sure about the death penalty.

"It feels like you're carrying more than the weight of an Angus bull on your shoulders."

After a 25-year legal roller coaster in which he has been sentenced to death time and again, Ronald Smith's last legal avenue has all but dried up. His last hope is likely to be Schweitzer.

"Let me say I am supporting the death penalty, yes. But there are very few people on the planet that have had that kind of experience. For almost everybody else it is a philosophical test because they'll never actually be in a position where they're involved in any way," the governor said in late after Smith lost his last appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Smith was convicted in 1983 for shooting to death two cousins, Harvey Mad Man and Thomas Running Rabbit, while he was high on drugs and alcohol. He refused a plea deal that would have seen him avoid death row. He asked for and was given a death sentence. But he later had a change of heart and has been fighting to save himself ever since.

"After the jury considered the evidence and listened to his testimony, and this cold-blooded killer said, 'Yup I did it' and 'I did it not because I hated those people. I wanted to know what it felt like to kill somebody,' they said if there was ever a case for a death penalty in Montana this would be it," Schweitzer said.

"Since then he's apparently been somewhat of a model citizen in the prison. But of course he's in maximum security, which means he's in a room by himself 23 hours of the day and on the 24th hour they let him walk around an outside cage with shackles on his legs, so I don't know how you could be much else but a model citizen."

Schweitzer, who is in his final term as governor of Montana, got an agronomy degree from Colorado State University and a master's degree in soil science. He then spent the next seven years developing irrigation systems in Libya and the world's largest dairy farm in Saudi Arabia. After winning the state's top job, he raised some eyebrows by choosing a Republican senator as his running mate for the position of lieutenant-governor.

Canadian courts forced Stephen Harper's government to seek clemency for Smith last year after Ottawa initially balked at stepping in. Schweitzer said he has received the request from Canadian officials.

The Canadian government's request will carry some weight, he said, but so will the wishes of the victims' families. Some relatives have called for Smith's execution, but Running Rabbit's daughter told The Canadian Press she would like to see Smith live out the rest of his days.

Lawyer Greg Jackson, who has represented Smith for the last 25 years, said the timing for a request to spare his client's life couldn't get much better. A clemency hearing could come as early as this spring.

"There are always political considerations in any request for clemency, and with Schweitzer being in the last part of his second term...from that standpoint it's probably good timing," he said.

"He's been very vocal over the years about his respect for and desire for Montana to have a great relationship with Canadians. Schweitzer has been in constant contact with Canadians."

The last execution in Montana was Aug. 11, 2006. David Dawson, who had murdered three members of a family in a Billings hotel room, fired his lawyers and refused any more appeals.

Schweitzer had only been in office about 18 months then and was waiting for the final call after midnight.

"It's very quiet and the length of time from midnight until the phone rings — while it will only be somewhere around four minutes — it could just as well be an eternity when they call to say it is done."

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04:35 PM on 01/28/2012
As a Canadian, I am ashamed of those from Canada who are doing all they can in order to convince the political justice system of Montana to sway to their way of thinking. Regardless of how Canadians feel towards the death penalty, Ronald Smith did not commit this crime on Canadian soil.He committed the crime, confessed to it and originally requested the death penalty for his crime.If by chance, this crime had been committed in a country such as Iraq or Iran, he would have been executed years ago, and there is nothing any Canadian or Government official could have done about it. As the old saying goes, "When in Rome do as the Romans do" holds very true in this case.Sympathy issued towards Ronald Smith and his time spent in jail is hardly a reason to see his sentence commuted. If by any chance his execution is commuted, then it speaks a loud message against those previously executed in the State. What makes their case any different then Smith's? Murder is murder and execution is a law. We may not all agree on laws, and in such cases then we elect through a democratic process those who will change the laws. As it sits, and as it has remained for years, Capital punishment is the law and it should be upheld.
07:31 PM on 02/04/2012
As a MONTANA guy I can say that 99.999% of our population believe that we have had a belly-full of the Ronald Smith side stepping . He is guilty , Liberal socialist lawyers have cost the state millions of dollars on a unrehabilatable individual who mirrors Charles Manson . Montanans want our money back . Maybe the peoples republic of communist canada would like to foot the bill for Ronald`s care and upkeep ? We have many prisioners in our state that could be better helped once we cancell his bill . All the do gooders will moan... but hey I felt bad stepping on a bug a couple of times . But they, had a good use in our lives .
12:43 AM on 02/05/2012
I hear you loud and clear Josey as do the majority of Canadians. Although the death penalty has long been abolished in Canada due to the Liberal governments from years ago removing it from the penal system, Canadians would surely have it re instituted as a punishment if it were to be put to an open vote. Canadians and our Government have no right seeking sympathy on behalf of Ronald Smith. His crime is one for the American judicial system to deal with, and hopefully the Governor of Montana decides that Smith should pay the penalty handed down to him. I am of course, offended in your remarks of Canada being a communist country, although I fully understand your logic in saying so. It's been said, the only difference between a communist government and one of democracy is that a Communist Government screws everyone the same and admits it, which a Democratic Government screw selected people and deny it.
04:53 PM on 01/27/2012
May be ronald could live in a cage in some huggy do-gooder hippie`s basement on their nickle . Do you know what he has cost the state of MONTANA ? He is not worth tax dollars .
11:43 PM on 01/13/2012
An eye for an eye justice- maybe. Still does not violence beget more violence? Ronald Smith's mind may have been affected by substance abuse and was clarity fully there? Consider the final act of his existance carefully, because just like he said " wanted to find out what it would be like to kill someone." Killing is Killing legally or illegally.
montanason
Justice for Annie Mae Aquash and Ray Robinson Jr.
10:22 PM on 12/27/2011
Ronald Smith wrote his own ticket when he decided he wanted to know
what it felt like to kill somebody-now he'll know what it feels like to die.
Capital punishment is not a deterrent, apparently life imprisonment
isn't either-and that is the conundrum society faces.
If capital punishment is legal in any state it is guaranteed that it will
be employed-easy enough to advocate against such punishment when
you are not a victim(s) survivor-not so easy if you are.
In the 21st century it would be "civilized" if society and murderers had
moved beyond their shared blood lust. Doubtful that will ever happen,
and the debate will rage on.
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GrimCityGirl
"What we see depends mainly on what we look for"
05:42 PM on 12/27/2011
The Governors choice of food is relevant to the story because he decided to bring it up in an interview about putting a man to death - if you read the article you will see Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer stated "I'm very difficult to pigeonhole as to what my politics are. I'm a pickup-drivin', gun-packin', meat-eatin', balance-the-budget, invest-in-education Democrat,"

Ask the good people of Montana who elected this man why meat-eatin' is relevant in a discussion about capital punishment.

As for the vegan / communism comment - you left out the other inaccurate stereotypes of pot smoking and hippies.

In the future, read the entire article before posting an uneducated response.
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GrimCityGirl
"What we see depends mainly on what we look for"
05:27 PM on 12/27/2011
As a Canadian, I am very disappointed that we even have a citizen on death row in the US. "Legally" killing a human being is murder. I realize the Smith confessed but all murder is morally and ethically wrong. Smith is a Canadian and should be granted clemency based on our abolishment of the death penalty on July 14th, 1976 when the House of Commons passed Bill C-84 on a free vote replacing it with a mandatory life sentence without possibility of parole for 25 years for all first-degree murders.

Your article states; “Canadian courts forced Harper's government to seek clemency for Smith last year after Ottawa initially balked at stepping in. The Canadian government's request will carry some weight, he said, but so will the wishes of the victims' families.” I am disgusted that the Harper government had to be strong armed into stepping in. Harper’s government is failing Smith and all Canadians.

The US needs to re-examine their stance on putting people to death, a practice which has been abolished in most civilized countries. The cost of keeping someone in prison for life has been demonstrated time and time again to be less than sentencing someone to death and dragging appeal after appeal through a flawed court system. The victims’ families are forced to re-live the death of their loved ones at each and every appeal. Who does this barbaric, cruel and unethical sentence help?
07:01 PM on 12/27/2011
As a Canadian, I am sick and tired of fellow canadians traveling to foreign countries flaunting and breaking laws of said country and then crying to be treated as if they were still in Canada.
I travel extensively, and when I do I make it a point to brush up on the do's and don'ts of where I'm going (a don't would include murder).
If someone comes to our fine country to visit, we expect them to respect and follow our laws while here, and they should expect no less from us.
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GrimCityGirl
"What we see depends mainly on what we look for"
08:17 PM on 12/27/2011
While I agree with your point to a certain extent, I still see no role for the death penalty in this case or any other. The fact that the murderer is Canadian adds a level of complexity to the situation. He comes from a country that abolished the death penalty in 1976. The states, in the USA, that still execute criminals are doing so at a decreasing rate (thankfully) and capital punishment, when available as a sentence, is all too often applied with bias.
The Department of Foreign Affairs has a role to play. When Amanda Know was wrongly convicted in Italy, representatives from the US government visited her and aided the family in the appeal process. While this case is much different as Smith has long since admitted to his crimes, there is a need for the Canadian government to do for him what they would do for a non-Canadian accused or convicted of murdered being extradited from Canada to face punishment in another country.
I too travel extensively and, when traveling to a new and unfamiliar country, make it a point to brush up on the laws of the land to which I am travelling (e.g. Singapore and gum). If someone comes to our fine country, it goes without saying that murder is a crime. Canada, along with many other countries, would not extradite someone to a country where capital punishment was on the table - the pre-condition would be set that the alleged criminal would receive a
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01:22 PM on 12/28/2011
Actually, I think you need to look up the definition of "murder"..

Although I am a Conservative, I would not support the return of the death penalty in Canada.

You are quite correct, it is cheaper to house a prisoner for life than to keep dragging appeals through the system.

That said, it is incredibly arrogant of Canadians to pretend to instruct Americans on the proper conduct of their legal system. The USA is a democracy, their justice system is based on English Common Law and jury trials, and the killer has confessed....indeed, initially he sought the death penalty.

He killed two gentlemen who were kind enough to give him a lift, simply because he wanted the thrill.

Evil.

Let the US justice system work as it was meant to do.
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jamster88
06:57 AM on 12/24/2011
So, that the governor 'eats meat' is somehow relevant to the story?

Or have we all become vegan communists now?
01:41 AM on 12/24/2011
Seems to me Ronald Smith sort of made this choice for himself,no pity.
04:30 PM on 12/23/2011
Killing is wrong. Whether it be by a crazed gunman or sanctioned by the state. The U.S. is the only country left in the western world to still practice it. It's in illustriuos company by such "beacons of democracy" such as China, Iran, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Libya, and Syria.
03:48 PM on 12/23/2011
Yup I did it' and 'I did it not because I hated those people. I wanted to know what it felt like to kill somebody,'. I don't imagine the 2 he killed wanted to know what it feels like to be killed .I think that if a person knowingly ends someone else,s life they too should suffer the same fate . Those he killed had a right to life but instead they receive a life sentence (period) If he wanted to know what it felt like to kill somebody then let him know what it feels like to be on the receiving end as well .
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turkeylurky
Just keepin it real........
03:32 PM on 12/23/2011
Anyone who kills for the fun of it should not be spared the ultimate penalty.
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Norma Ward
03:27 PM on 12/23/2011
In other news, a State Representative from Montana actually proposed legislation that stated that global warming was good for his state as shown here:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/04/global-warming-whats-good-for-montana.html

Coincidentally (or not), Montana happens to be an oil and gas producing state.
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luckincan
That rug really tied the room together
03:04 PM on 12/23/2011
neocon
01:40 AM on 12/24/2011
idiot
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luckincan
That rug really tied the room together
11:07 AM on 12/24/2011
I agree, he's an ldl0t too...
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baizhongtang
Reality has an anti-neoliberal agenda
02:49 PM on 12/23/2011
Wow, in reading the previous comments I can see why the extreme-right is having so much success in Canada. Legal murder is still murder. Not having the death penalty is a pillar of pride in Canada, but obviously some would love to see people put to death here too. This has nothing to do with justice, it's just blood lust. Thinking with the reptilian brain. If you like "fair" murder so much, why don't you join the army? They will give you a nice shiny gun to go kill the "flavor of the week" people...
02:04 PM on 12/23/2011
If only the victims had a vote ! They might vote for clemency, , but I would not bet on that. It's as much of an enigma as the Governor's final decision. !
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03:10 PM on 12/23/2011
It's a poor idea to let victims have a say on sentencing, for a multitude of reasons...

1. The victims have suffered enough without being subject to the mental torment of deciding a man's fate.

2. The victims could become targets of pressure groups.

3. Criminals might threaten or take revenge on the victims for their sentencing decisions.

4. Sentencing should be as consistent and impartial as possible.
07:36 PM on 12/23/2011
The victims happen to be dead !!! I do not agree , at all, by the way. !!