Office Of Religious Freedom: Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird Office From Critics Who Question Need For It

John Baird

First Posted: 01/02/12 01:55 PM ET Updated: 01/04/12 03:51 PM ET

OTTAWA - Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird says his department's new Office of Religious Freedom won't become a vehicle for playing domestic politics in Canada's immigrant communities.

Baird dismissed criticism that the new office could lead to an uncomfortable mix of religion and politics.

"Freedom of religion is one of the first things in the Charter, it's one of the first things in the Bill of Rights, it's front and centre in the UN Declaration of Human Rights — it's an essential human right; I don't see any concern about that at all," Baird told The Canadian Press in a year-end interview.

The Tories announced the creation of the office in their federal election platform last spring, but they have yet to roll out details of the new entity, to be housed within Foreign Affairs. The government is expected to formally announce the new office early this year.

Baird has high hopes for the Office of Religious Freedom, even though it will come with a modest $5-million price tag.

That will include a relatively minuscule $500,000 budget for operations, so it won't be a major drag on already thin resources.

But some are warning the office could have a broad impact, and not the positive one the Conservative government is looking for.

Alex Neve, the head of Amnesty International Canada, says that while religious persecution "is a serious human rights concern right around the world" he's not confident about the government's approach to the new office.

"We're watching it with interest but also with considerable concern," said Neve.

"There is such complete secrecy about it."

His organization has met with Foreign Affairs officials, but questions about the office generate vague responses along the lines of "work is under way" and "you'll be hearing more," said Neve.

Neve said religious freedom can have a "contentious relationship" with other crucial human-rights concerns such as women's equality, the equality rights of gays and lesbians, and freedom of expression.

"It's an area obviously where governments need to tread carefully. They need to do so in ways where they don't — either intentionally or unintentionally — convey a message that some religions are preferred over others."

Baird has been consulting internationally, including meetings with the Vatican in Rome and a day of consultations in Ottawa with religious groups in October.

The October consultations were not open to the public. Neve questions why Amnesty and other rights groups were excluded.

Baird offered few details about how the new office will actually function during a pre-Christmas interview.

"It's in the campaign document. What you see is what you get. There won't be any surprises," the minister said, adding he would be "speaking to it in the new year."

Pressed on what exactly the office will do, Baird replied: "It will be promoting religious freedom."

He said it would involve "persuasion, lobbying, putting light … promoting."

The Tories have noted that the concept of the office is not novel to Canada.

They point to the fact the U.S. State Department has its own religious freedom office that was created in the late 1990s under the Democratic administration of Bill Clinton.

A May briefing note to Baird, obtained under Access to Information, lays out three priority areas for the new office: protecting, and advocating on behalf of, religious minorities under threat; opposing religious hatred and intolerance; promoting the Canadian values of pluralism and tolerance abroad.

Baird has consulted internationally on the creation of the new office meeting with the Holy See in Rome, the Aga Khan, head of the Greek Orthodox Church in Turkey and the U.S. ambassador at large for international religious freedom.

"They accomplished a lot," Baird said of his meeting last summer with Suzan Johnson Cook, the U.S. Ambassador-at-Large for International Religious Freedom.

But he added "ours will be a made-in-Canada approach."

Baird cited persecution of Baha'i practitioners in Iran, Coptic Christians killed in Egypt and Roman Catholic priests who have been forced underground in China.

"Sometimes tough things need to be said. It's really uncomfortable, I think, for the Egyptian government when you talk about the plight of Copts," said Baird.

"If you're one of the 54 Copts who was killed at this time last year, it's pretty uncomfortable for you and your family too, whose only sin was being Coptic."

As the Tories mull their final roll out for the new office, religious violence is sparking the usual time-honoured response of Canadian governments, whether Liberal or Conservative: a written denunciation in the minister's name condemning the perpetrators and an expression of solidarity for the victims.

That's what happened on Christmas Day after a radical sect called Boko Haram claimed responsibility for a series of attacks on churches that killed at least 42 people in Nigeria.

Baird's statement that day said: "Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their loved ones. These people died practising their religion — a basic human right. Canada strongly denounces such cowardly attacks without reservation."

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WorkInCanada
Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid. John W
01:24 PM on 01/08/2012
First the health care promise broken and now this. GW Bush has arrived!!
05:26 PM on 01/03/2012
Unless we Merge the left, we are in for endless tinkering of the Canadain identity by Harper.

Might as well move to Alabama- the weather is better.
12:47 PM on 01/04/2012
Would be nice... to move all lefts to Alabama! :)
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WorkInCanada
Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid. John W
01:22 PM on 01/08/2012
Then you wouldn't have any neighbors left who do neighborly things.
01:00 PM on 01/03/2012
Ridiculous. Department of Religion. The Conservatives will do anything to control what goes on in the bedrooms of the country. Pathetic.
12:44 PM on 01/08/2012
Uh...yah. Like using the State to re-define marriage.
11:16 AM on 01/03/2012
What hypocrisy from the lefty fruitcakes - first they call the Tories 'born agains', then criticize them for recognizing all religions! Whew - no wonder we have a Conservative majority - most Canadians aren't as stupid as the left thinks!
05:17 PM on 01/03/2012
They may be lefties- but you are one angry old man.
10:46 AM on 01/04/2012
just observant
12:50 PM on 01/04/2012
He is not the only angry man - I have same opinion about "lefty fruitcakes"! And, since I am 54, you can call me an old man, I am OK with this!
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Denis OBrien
10:58 AM on 01/04/2012
The hypocrisy is from the cons...between the lines religious freedom will be the freedom to be a fundamentalist evangelical christian, not freedom to be Islamic, Baha'i, Buddhist, Asratu or Wiccan. We do not have a con majority...they are a so called majority in name only and represent a much smaller portion of the population.
12:45 PM on 01/08/2012
Nice try buddy. The world has moved on and you don't even realize it.
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Filthy
11:08 AM on 01/03/2012
This isn't about religous freedom, this is a reassurance to their evangelical supporters that the conservatives will support any bigotry so long as you can claim that your prejudice is ecclesiastical in origin. This is an office devoted soley to assuage Christian evangelical paranoia that we are living in those dangerous end days that Jack Van Impe and Kirk Cameron warned us about - when government storm troopers take away our bibles, take the number of the beast and for good measure make our kids gay-marry their cousins.

However I doubt that Baird is in a position to clearly articulate the intent of this office to the bureaucrats the department will inevitably come to rely on for day to day operations - they may actually take their jobs seriously.
11:17 AM on 01/03/2012
LOL - lefty pap
05:19 PM on 01/03/2012
I really don't think you understand how to use LOL.

Go Tories - spend an extra 5 million on a department that you can't define what its purpose is? Is that how they are going to balance the budget?
12:48 PM on 01/08/2012
Filthy actually knows the names Jack Van Impe and Kirk Cameron. Me thinks he comes from an evangelical background. Probably had some bad experiences and hasn't worked it out yet.
07:31 AM on 01/03/2012
This is an example of Orwellian Doublespeak. Is this why they banned head coverings for Citizenship procedures? They easily could make women only citizenship swearing-in ceremonies. For the CONservatives it likely means pointing out persecution of Christians oversees rather than promoting tolerance in Canada. They will have a few token other faiths tossed in when convenient for gaining points, but don't expect it to be consistent.
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YankinCanada
Two opposing idealogues walk into a liberal bar...
01:30 AM on 01/03/2012
How does a closet case (and there is nothing wrong with that) like Baird ever step into the world of religion?
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
02:30 AM on 01/03/2012
Now the Ultra Orthodox will have an office to complain about people being hostile to them for spitting on school girls and couples.
12:50 PM on 01/08/2012
Your in favour of spitting on school girls and couples? MMMM...Your tolerance only seems to reach those who agree with you.
05:20 PM on 01/03/2012
As long as you are celibate god approves - ask Rob Anders.
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
11:09 PM on 01/02/2012
So we're slashing social programmes to free up money for this?!
11:19 AM on 01/03/2012
Actually it was Martin who slashed Medicareicr - restored by Harper - try facts for a change, though I realize this is a lefty fruitcake fact-free zone
05:22 PM on 01/03/2012
Try spell check.
Last time I checked Medicare was a US program not universally offred to all citzens- so not really sure what facts you are talking about.
08:26 PM on 01/03/2012
yeah Martin did slash Medicare to some degree along with every other program and department because he is the one who had to clean up the huge deficit left behind buy the conservatives under Mulroney so why don't you get the whole story straight.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
10:12 PM on 01/02/2012
We're in real trouble
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SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
10:04 PM on 01/02/2012
So, Mr. Baird, will this include freedom *from* religion as well?
12:54 PM on 01/08/2012
I'm hoping this office will help keep the State out of religion.
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haddanuff
Progressives think 'We' while cons think "Me"
09:02 PM on 01/02/2012
Is it just me, or is wearing a Burka religious freedom?
09:18 PM on 01/02/2012
Islam is not a religion, it is a satanic barbarian death cult of inbreeding & child rape. Therefore any kind of muslim slave outfit should be disallowed.
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haddanuff
Progressives think 'We' while cons think "Me"
10:17 PM on 01/02/2012
Spoken like a good christian.
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
11:07 PM on 01/02/2012
You mommy wants the computer back child.
12:56 PM on 01/08/2012
Only if it's truly voluntary. I think we should call on our feminist sisters at rabble.ca to make a statement that men can 't force their wives to wear it.
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northof49th
08:57 PM on 01/02/2012
Why do we need an office or ministry for something that is in the Charter and is a human right why spend the money
09:15 PM on 01/02/2012
Because the State is always trying to impose its values on religious groups, especially if they don't conform to secular values.
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
11:14 PM on 01/02/2012
Oh? Like.... what? Removing the burka to swear a citizenship oath or putting your kirpan (dagger) in your luggage on an airplane?

If this is about that abortion thing feel free to vote for the party that is for banning them. You'll lose and have to accept it because you live in a democracy.
12:56 PM on 01/08/2012
Because their is a concerted effort to subvert those rights.
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SanguinesDream
~Scio me nihil scire~
08:33 PM on 01/02/2012
I suspect we will get the gift of public debate on euthanasia, abortion and the death penalty. Now I wonder how many contradictions can they make within those three topics and scriptures from the Bible?!?
09:16 PM on 01/02/2012
Your sentence doesn't even make sense.
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SanguinesDream
~Scio me nihil scire~
11:43 AM on 01/05/2012
Let me break it down for you - The "gift" as in sarcastically stating the public debate on euthanasia, death penalty and abortion - all three topics that are religiously charged that would NOW may be protected under this new department.

Contraditions within the Bible - meaning advocating for the death penalty goes against the same tenants that euthanasia and abortion, something most neocons seem to overlook in their furor for "justice".

I realize that it takes a little bit of abstract thought but seriously, try...just a little. Are you sure you're not from the US?
03:58 PM on 01/03/2012
Sheesh - someone else lost their meds!
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SanguinesDream
~Scio me nihil scire~
11:35 AM on 01/05/2012
Brilliant retort.
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Aurel1us
They're eating her!Then they'll eat meeee
08:20 PM on 01/02/2012
"It's an essential human right; I don't see any concern about that at all," Baird told The Canadian Press in a year-end interview."
I don't see any concern about that either...so why does Canada need to be so concerned about it?
We're all allowed to worship whatever we want to worship. What is the point of this office? Keep the government secular.
"He said it would involve "persuasion, lobbying, putting light … promoting."
Again, why should the government be having anything to do with this? The conservatives should get their money right instead of wasting effort and money on religion. I'm pretty sure that churches do enough persuading already. Get the bibles out of public schools already. Keep the government secular.
09:17 PM on 01/02/2012
Yes...keep the government secular and STOP imposing its values on religious groups that don't toe the secular line.
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Aurel1us
They're eating her!Then they'll eat meeee
01:00 AM on 01/03/2012
The values of any government should reflect the values of the people that it consists of. Religion should be subject to these same values because they are based (at least in Canada), upon the rule of law. No entity is above the law, and that includes any religious organization. (especially the flying spaghetti monster) Religion is debatable, and in my opinion quite fictitious. The common decency of our society is not debatable however. Wrong is wrong, and Canadian law does its best to define wrong. Anybody trying to skirt our laws under the veil of religion can not be doing any type of good by doing so. I'm fairly certain that the conservatives got into office claiming that they would cut the fat surrounding our bureaucracy, and instead they add more buckets of lard.
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logicanada
Blogger, radio co-host, writer, editor, voice-over
08:14 PM on 01/02/2012
It's time for The Zeitgeist Party of Canada.
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Steve Lives
The Venus Project ... look it up
03:29 PM on 01/08/2012
I will second that. Strangely, I have been giving this some thought over the last few months.