Northern Gateway Pipeline Hearings Will Be 'Hijacked' By Foreign Interests, Harper Fears

Stephen Harper

First Posted: 01/06/12 03:35 PM ET Updated: 01/06/12 05:58 PM ET

EDMONTON - Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he's listening to concerns that hearings for the Northern Gateway pipeline will be "hijacked" by foreign interests.

"We have to have processes in Canada that come to a decision in a reasonable amount of time and processes that cannot be hijacked," Harper said Friday while in Edmonton to make an unrelated announcement.

"In particular, growing concern has been expressed to me about the use of foreign money to really overload the public consultation phase of regulatory hearings just for the purpose of slowing down the process.

"This is something that is not good for the Canadian economy, and the government of Canada will be taking a close look at how we can ensure that our regulatory processes are effective and deliver decisions in a reasonable amount of time."

Harper's comments echoed those of oilsands advocacy groups, which have attacked several Canadian environmental organizations for accepting money from U.S. sources.

They also come after a number of environmental groups, some with offices in both Canada and the U.S., acknowledged they have run so-called "Mob the Mike" campaigns. They said they knocked on doors in communities along the proposed route and spoke on university campuses to get people to register to speak at public hearings on Enbridge Inc.'s (TSX:ENB) proposal.

More than 4,000 groups and individuals have registered to file submissions during the Gateway hearings that are to start next week in Kitimat, B.C. That $5.5-billion pipeline would carry crude oil 1,200 kilometres from Alberta to the West Coast for export to Asian countries. It would deliver about 525,000 barrels a day.

Advocates say the line is crucial to open new markets for Canadian energy, particularly from Alberta's oilsands. Opponents fear potential spills and marine disasters along the British Columbia coastline, as well as expansion of markets for greenhouse-gas intensive oilsands crude.

Todd Paglia is with Forest Ethics, an environmental group with offices on both sides of the border that has encouraged people to speak out against the pipeline. He rejected the suggestion the hearings were being deliberately tied up.

"We're just encouraging people to be part of a conversation that's really important to them," he said.

"Democracies are not like dictatorships. They are sometimes messy because conversations and dialogue is important to arrive at the right policy."

Paglia said his group has spent less than $10,000 on its Gateway campaign. The money, he said, has come from both Canadian and U.S. sources.

"It's not like we have $100 million from China, the way Enbridge does," he said.

A Chinese company is one of the backers of the Calgary-based company's project.

"Mr. Harper seems to only have a problem with foreign money that opposes his agenda."

George Hoberg, a political scientist from the University of British Columbia's forestry department, said it's ridiculous to suggest the hearings are being controlled by foreigners.

"There are a lot of Canadians who are extremely concerned about the pipeline," said Hoberg, who has been following the Gateway issue for years. "The prime minister characterizes the things he doesn't like as 'politics' and the things that he does like as 'good process.'

"I think it's absurd to focus on foreign foundation funding of Canadian environmentalists without focusing on foreign ownership of Canadian energy companies."

Governments have every right to try to ensure their regulatory processes deliver timely decisions and aren't undermined by interest groups, said Andrew Leach, who teaches environmental economics at the University of Alberta.

But deciding whose voices are heard and whose aren't is a ticklish business.

"In theory that's easy to say; in practice it's very hard to implement," said Leach. "Once you start drawing lines that say, 'OK, so who gets to participate?' that becomes much more difficult to do."

Leach points out the hearing's rules were designed to allow wide participation. Changing them after the fact would threaten their legitimacy as much as being swamped by activists.

"If you start to say that only people with commercial interests can participate, or only people within a certain distance of the pipeline can participate, then you've delegitimized the process for everybody that doesn't fall into those categories.

"That's as dangerous as having a lot of speaking at the hearings — especially when you change the rules after the fact."

The panel is to make a recommendation to the federal cabinet on the pipeline by the end of next year.

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Donna Meness
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02:21 AM on 01/10/2012
http://wcel.org/media-centre/media-releases/west-coast-environmental-law-reacts-prime-ministers-statements

BTW:
"Ex-advisor " Tom Flanagan, Stephen Harper's former campaign manager and chief of staff, received a lot of media criticism for saying that political attack ads don't have to be true, they just have to be plausible.
12:25 AM on 01/10/2012
I consider this an insult. I am registered to address the Hearing. Mr. Harper, please don't forget who you are. You hold the highest office in our political system - such as it is. You must contain your frustration and avoid becoming impatient with us. We are only citizens with our sleepless laptops trying to keep up with the media machines which the industry giants have at their command as they spin the news, obfuscate the facts and twist our elected around their fingers. I have a right to speak and I have my own concerns - not provided by anyone else. Thank you.
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Ppaatt
02:20 AM on 01/08/2012
Hasn't Stephen Harper been interfering in the U.S. Keystone pipeline debate. If we can speak out about pipeline plans in other countries, why can't people from other countries comment on ours?
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
09:38 PM on 01/07/2012
So is anyone else sick of conspiracy theories being used by politicans as excuses?
10:56 AM on 01/07/2012
The silly irony expressed by Hair Harper is that the Canadian oil industry IS owned by foreigners. And another irony is that the issue has already been hijacked by big oil. My country and Alberta in particular is owned by the oil industry. One of Transcanada's leaky pipelines is the last thing that should be built in the BC Rockies. But it is irrelevant, the deal is done, there is too much money involved for big oil to let it be stopped.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
07:46 PM on 01/07/2012
Really?
What percentage is owned by foreigners?
Who owns Syncrude, Suncor, CNRL?
07:18 PM on 01/08/2012
really, another stan response. Well stan, it appears that the Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, and Americans own most of those companys. There is some Canadian ownership, but when u look it's a pretty tangled web of corporate hide and seek. Please, share with us your extensive knowledge on the ownership so that we can all feel better and sleep at night.
Donna Meness
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10:06 AM on 01/09/2012
All corporations have a "Canadian hat" but are FOREIGN owned companies..

Here's an example:

PetroChina spent nearly $7 billion last year acquiring refineries and oil assets in Australia, Canada, Singapore and Central Asia. Houston-based ConocoPhillips on Monday confirmed the sale of its stake in Syncrude Canada to Chinese refining giant Sinopec for $4.65 billion US. It would be the largest Chinese investment in the oilsands to date for Sinopec, which is in a joint venture with Total on the Northern Lights project formerly owned by Synenco.

Last year PetroChina floated a $1.9 billion stake in Athabasca Oil Sands Corp. which went public with an initial public offering.
Donna Meness
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12:45 AM on 01/07/2012
FNWARM is not against mining development of any kind, but it is against mining development at any price.

THE CURRENT REALITY: The mining industry has the financial and human resources to fight for what it wants, and the political lobbying resources to wage its campaigns. Yet as of 2010 there had not been a major new metals mine open in BC since the mid 1990s,

The courts in recent years have consistently ruled in favour of First Nations and have imposed on governments the duty to consult in a meaningful way with First Nations. No treaties were ever signed and no lands or resources were ever ceded when settlers first came to BC, and for almost 150 years colonialist attitudes have seen governments and companies act as if they could do as they wished on First Nations traditional lands. Those days are now over. We are in changing times that will eventually lead to the establishment of First Nation title and rights over their lands.

THE PROBLEM: Many companies still believe they can get around the law and First Nations rights. They spend their time and resources trying to divide communities, or to limit their involvement in the process. They spend fortunes on PR campaigns that portray themselves as the great saviours of the economy and encourage the public to view First Nations are unreasonable obstacles to wealth and prosperity.

http://www.fnwarm.com/25501.html
Donna Meness
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12:34 AM on 01/07/2012
“While some first nations have benefited from mining within their boundaries, in general, first nations bear an unfair burden at every point in the mining process, from the registration of claims to exploration, production and abandonment of closed sites. Urgent law reform is needed to shift at least some of that burden onto government and industry,” states the report. “Current law presumes that mining is an acceptable use of a piece of land, but the presumption should instead be that aboriginal rights require heightened scrutiny of mining activities.”

The report, based on 50 interviews with aboriginals, government officials and industry representatives, concludes B.C.’s mining laws “favour industry, leave great discretion to government, and deny first nations an effective means to have a say in what happens to their land.”

http://www.fnwarm.com/media/Canada$20First$20Nations$20Demand$20Reforms$20in$20Wake$20of$20Harvard$20Law$20School$20human$20rights$20study.pdf
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Whistlejackett
Hey stop doing that
12:01 AM on 01/07/2012
Using Kitimat as a port is just plain stupid. The size of the ships is a concern if they are going to use the inside passage. There isn't enough room to safely transport oil from Douglas channel to Rupert using this passage. There are ferries using it and cruise ships that use this channel already and there simply is no room to safely transport.
Donna Meness
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11:00 PM on 01/06/2012
Harper Pledges to Sabotage Climate Change Agenda at G20
Murray Dobbin
December 8, 2009

Stephen Harper is clearly not moved by Canada’s rapidly decaying reputation regarding its appalling position of climate change. In a Bloomberg story I have not seen reported anywhere in the Canadian media, Harper told the South Korean National Assembly that he will “…use Canada’s co-chairmanship of next year’s Group of 20 countries meeting to urge members to put economic recovery before efforts to protect the environment.”

This is a blatant violation of the role that Canada has been given to co-chair the first meeting of the G20 as a body acknowledged as the effective replacement of the G8. Canada is now not only a rogue country on climate change but is headed by a rogue prime minister – stating openly that he will abuse his power as a co-chair to do everything he can to derail climate change action and protect the deadly tar sands of Alberta from any effort to slow down its development. ...

http://pushedleft.blogspot.com/2009/12/more-on-harpers-plans-to-sabatoge.html
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
07:49 PM on 01/07/2012
"Canada's rapidly decaying reputation'?
In fact Canada has the #1 reputation in the world, look it up.

Murray Dobbin?
Another burnt out old hippy?

BTW, what was Canada's position in Durban, as compared to , oh...say...Japan's?
07:22 PM on 01/08/2012
oh please stan, you are sooooo 1998... we WERE #1 until we decided oil was more important then the environment. I swear, if I keep seeing your lack of understanding and knowledge, I may have to take another look at the Canadian education system in environmental policies
Donna Meness
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10:58 PM on 01/06/2012
Stop the Flows is the working title for subMedia.TV's next project. Over the next five years we will document resistance movements that are working towards stopping the flows of hydro carbons, mineral extraction, natural resources and capital, through grassroots and underground organizing. We will publish our dispatches as we complete them with the goal of compiling them into a feature length documentary to be released on 2016.

In this dispatch we look at how members of the Unis’toten nation are pre-empting the construction of 4 pipelines through their traditional territories

To help make these reports a reality, please visit STOPTHEFLOWS.com

For more background on BC's oil infrastructure visit the links below:

Aboriginal groups in Canada challenge tar sands projects

Grassroots Gathering to Resist Proposed Pipelines

In BC, Pipes Spell Double Trouble

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Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
10:55 PM on 01/06/2012
course once oil tanker crash & the BC coastline looks like Alaska 25 yrs. ago or Gulf Coast 2 yrs. ago..

Two words: Shrimp Farms.

Once you understand neoconservatism, you start to look at government decisions through the neocon lens. Since multinationals are always given first priority, and citizens are not even on the radar, you go to who will benefit from cutting out smaller companies or nations from the industry.

And you don't have to look too far to find a winner. In the same way that salmon farms in B.C. are destroying salmon fishing, it would appear that our shrimp industry may be about to take a huge hit.

A Taiwanese company has already been granted a licence to operate a closed-system tropical shrimp farm in B.C. ' ... and plans to expand its aquaculture business in the province and beyond'.

Alberta is also in the process of developing shrimp farms and the Government of Canada has given a grant of $124,536 to Clear Flow Consulting Inc. to assist.

http://pushedleft.blogspot.com/2010/02/so-who-is-gail-shea-really-huffing-and.html
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
10:49 PM on 01/06/2012
You have to look at the big picture of neoconservatism. There are few traditional Republicans in the United States and few traditional Conservatives in Canada. Most are now part of a big tent. They move back and forth across the border, a border that they hope to soon erase, sharing strategy and war stories and feeding off each other.

Harper's Reform Party - Newt Gingrich

Reform Party- Mike Harris

Jason Kenney- Grover Norquist

Pierre Poilievre - Jim Sensenbrenner

Stephen Harper- George Bush, Frank Luntz, Art Finklestein (Nixon's former guru), etc., etc., etc.

http://pushedleft.blogspot.com/2010/12/its-all-about-spin-baby-its-all-about.html
Donna Meness
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10:24 PM on 01/06/2012
Pushed to the Left and Loving It: Well the S.O.B. Did it. Canada ...
Dec 13, 2011
His job is to make as much money as possible for the oil industry, and he's doing that job. I just wish he'd do the one he was elected to do and start standing up for the people of Canada. We already have enough black eyes, ...
http://pushedleft.blogspot.com/

Pushed to the Left and Loving It: Oil Companies Record Massive ...
Nov 05, 2010
The news that Canada's oil companies are rolling in the dough, is not really news. But what should be news is that Stephen Harper still wants to convince us that he needs to give them billions of dollars in tax cuts, ...
http://pushedleft.blogspot.com/

Pushed to the Left and Loving It: Should We Be Concerned With ...
Oct 28, 2011
In 1911, the United States Supreme Court broke up Standard Oil, then the largest multinational corporation, because it was simply becoming too big and powerful. The company's battles with former president Teddy Roosevelt ...
http://pushedleft.blogspot.com/

http://pushedleft.blogspot.com/2009/11/harpers-knuckle-dragging-on-climate.html#uds-search-results
Donna Meness
www.findmaisyandshannon.com
10:22 PM on 01/06/2012
It's interesting looking back to George W. Bush and when he first came to office. Many were then concerned with their loss of democracy, in light of the fact that Bush had stolen the election.

The theft of our election by Harper, wasn't apparent until later.

Cheating with the "In and Out" scandal, when candidates scammed tax payers out of almost $800,000.00, getting rebates they weren't entitled to. And the party spending more than a million dollars over and above the legal limit.

Dirty tricks.

They used the RCMP to discredit the Liberals in the middle of the election. The entire thing turned out to be a setup.

Dirty tricks.

And one of the leading members of the American Religious Right, Paul Weyrich, instructed his members to not talk to our media, because Harper didn't want Canadians to know how deeply he was involved in the American movement.

Dirty tricks.

http://www.canadaka.net/forums/canada-us-relations-f14/harper-s-u-s-neocon-booster-changes-his-story-t11642.html
08:36 PM on 01/06/2012
"The prime minister characterizes the things he doesn't like as 'politics' and the things that he does like as 'good process." Couldn't have said it better myself - thanks Mr. Hoberg. That the Prime Minister should align himself with and implicitly condone the "ethical oil" shtick also published on this site today http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/kathryn-marshall/northern-gateway-pipeline_b_1185267.html?ref=canada#postComment is an embarassment to this country.