Gay Marriage Canada: Justice Minister Rob Nicholson Pledges To Clarify Law

Canada Gay Same Sex Marriage

First Posted: 01/12/12 09:17 AM ET Updated: 01/13/12 11:10 AM ET

OTTAWA - The federal justice minister says he will look at clarifying the law to ensure gay couples from abroad who marry in Canada can also get divorced.

Rob Nicholson says he will study options to make it clear that same-sex marriages "performed in Canada can be undone in Canada."

There are now doubts about the validity of thousands of marriages conducted in Canada for same-sex couples from the United States and elsewhere following a federal twist in a Charter of Rights case launched in Ontario by two foreign women seeking a divorce.

A legal brief filed by federal lawyers denies the women are even legally married, prompting critics to charge Stephen Harper's Conservative government with rewriting the rules on gay marriage to suit its right-wing agenda.

"I think it's the radical right by stealth," Liberal Leader Bob Rae said Thursday. "I think Mr. Harper is trying to placate a certain base in his party. But it's certainly not a base that's widespread in the country and I don't think it's right or appropriate or a fair-minded approach."

The couple, identified in court records only by initials to protect their privacy, were married in Toronto in December 2005 and separated two years ago. One lives in Clearwater, Fla., the other in London, England.

Their marriage is not recognized either in Florida or the United Kingdom. As a result, they are unable to obtain a divorce in their home cities.

The couple also faces a barrier to divorce in Ontario — a requirement that at least one of them live in the province for a year or more. They have launched a constitutional challenge of that provision in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice.

"They are prevented from severing the legal and psychological bonds of marriage in a way that other couples routinely take for granted," says their submission to the court.

"Without this, they cannot move on from this chapter in their lives."

In its filing, the federal government opposes the application for divorce, saying the women "are not legally married under Canadian law."

It argues neither woman was legally able to marry a person of the same sex under the laws of Florida or the United Kingdom. "As a result, their marriage is not legally valid under Canadian law."

The federal government plans to argue in a Feb. 27 hearing in Toronto that the case should be thrown out because there is no legal marriage to dissolve.

In 2005 the Liberal government passed legislation recognizing same-sex marriage after several courts across the country had declared the practice legal. An estimated 5,000 of the 15,000 or so gay marriages performed in Canada have involved foreigners, mostly American couples.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper said he was unaware of the details of the case Thursday morning, but stressed his government has no desire to revisit same-sex marriage.

"We have no intention of further opening or reopening this issue," Harper said in Halifax, where he made a shipbuilding announcement.

Harper's answer was more strident when asked the question later in the day in North Vancouver.

"The law recognizes same sex marriages in Canada and the government is not going to reopen that issue."

Nicholson echoed that sentiment in his statement.

But questions remained about the government's newly stated legal position: That foreign blessing of same-sex unions is required before Ottawa will recognize them.

"We had always assumed that those marriages were valid in Canada the way any other marriage performed in Canada would be valid," said Robert Leckey, a family law professor at McGill University in Montreal and president of Egale Canada, which supports gay rights.

"It seems to me a very disturbing and unexpected change in policy."

Lawyer Martha McCarthy, who represents the women seeking a divorce, called the federal argument "outrageous and embarrassing" given that Canada has been seen as a world leader on equality rights.

She said the government has delivered her clients an appalling and offensive blow.

"They thought they were coming to a country to get married that recognized their dignity and human rights, only to be secretly backstabbed now," she said.

"I'm hoping for some positive outcome in a co-operative way, preferably."

The NDP's Olivia Chow said Harper was sending out confusing messages about the government's intentions.

"You can't say that you support gay marriage and then have lawyers say that you don't in court," Chow said at a news conference at her Toronto office.

"I think Mr. Harper is hiding behind the law and using a back door way to say to these loving couples: 'Sorry, we no longer recognize your marriage.'"

If the flip-flop was truly a misunderstanding, said Chow, the prime minister can easily resolve the matter by instructing the government's lawyer in the divorce case to use a different argument.

— With files from Romina Maurino and Joan Bryden

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bbertaud
Je ne regrette rien, rien de rien
01:13 PM on 01/13/2012
As a lesbian Canadian man I am proud of my country....Go Canada !!!
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11:52 AM on 01/13/2012
How do Canadian courts enforce divorce settlements on funds that are outside of their jurisdiction, in jurisdictions that do not recognize the union of the individuals in question.
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gwinegarden
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11:50 AM on 01/13/2012
First, I have to say that this legal technicality is ridiculous and needs to be corrected, if it is true. But, I also have to wonder that, if they are not legally married, why do they not just walk away and forget the divorce.
12:33 PM on 01/13/2012
Money, assets, etc?
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gwinegarden
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02:58 PM on 01/14/2012
Perhaps, but courts can settle those questions for couples that are not married, as well.
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11:36 AM on 01/13/2012
Canada can become the "Las Vegas" of international gay marriage. Quick marriages and even quicker divorces. We could use the revenue.
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Jake Thomas
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11:30 AM on 01/13/2012
"That foreign blessing of same-sex unions is required before Ottawa will recognize them."

Which leads to the question, what other laws will require "foreign blessing" before Ottawa recognizes them. I thought we were a sovereign nation, apparently not.
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cwebster
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11:55 AM on 01/13/2012
Exactly.
Does this mean we would require a foreign country to approve inter-racial or inter-faith marriages that our society accepts?
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02:03 PM on 01/13/2012
No. It means that a Canadian marriage has no legal standing outside of the jurisdiction of Canada and is effectively pointless if it is not recognized in the country of your residence. Like couples who get married in Cuba, still have to get a marriage license in Canada. It's like the pictures you get at a theme park on the log chute. You can point to your marriage license and say, wasn't that fun, but it provides you with no legal standing in Canada or in your home country. This isn't about us kowtowing to foreign interests, its about us issuing valueless marriage certificates and the potential litigation and international legal mess it could put at the feet of Canada.

"You married us, but now we want to get divorced and we can't settle our financial affairs in our home country. We got a divorce but the agreement is not recognized in my home country, so my ex spouse refuses to honour it. I'm suing the Canadian government for the settlement that they handed down but couldn't enforce. If they couldn't enforce the settlement, they shouldn't have issued it."
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01:57 PM on 01/13/2012
I think what they mean is what is the point of recognizing a marriage that has legal standing in a country in which the parties do not reside? Besides the warm and fuzzy feelings that one gets from having your marriage recognized by A country somewhere in the world, what does the marriage license you are provided with in Canada, do for you in Uganda? What would the divorce solve when the marriage itself is a novelty of international law?
02:36 PM on 01/12/2012
C'mon greyman take a walk on the wild side.
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01:14 PM on 01/13/2012
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