Liberal Convention 2012: Leadership Speculation As Grits Gather

Liberal Convention 2012 Ottawa

First Posted: 01/14/12 04:30 AM ET Updated: 01/14/12 10:11 PM ET

OTTAWA - It's not on the official agenda of their convention, but Liberals are informally abuzz with speculation about their usual favourite topic: leadership.

On Friday night, Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty set tongues wagging with a speech describing how he managed to take his province's Liberal party from perpetual loser to three-time winner.

He left many delegates hoping he could be persuaded to do the same for the federal party, which was reduced to third party status with only 34 seats in last May's election.

On Saturday, it was the premier's brother, Ottawa MP David McGuinty, who provided grist for the leadership mill, declaring his own potential interest in the job and thereby effectively ruling out his more famous sibling.

"I have an obligation to examine what is the best way to contribute, I really do," David told reporters after ambling into the media room at the convention, purportedly to inquire if reporters were being adequately "watered and fed."

"This is not news," he insisted. "People knew that I considered running last time."

As for the premier, who has repeatedly ruled out jumping to the federal arena, David said: "I think he's spoken really clearly on that issue and he's been pretty categorical. He's got a big job ahead of him (as premier of a minority government). He knows it and he's focusing on it."

Marc Garneau, the Liberal House leader, has also mused about a potential run.

And delegates were also buzzing about the fact that former cabinet minister Martin Cauchon hosted a hospitality suite at the convention. To some, this was deemed a sure sign that Cauchon has his eye on an eventual leadership run, even though he was foiled last May in his bid to stage a comeback in his old Montreal riding.

But the most persistent buzz involves Bob Rae, the party's current interim leader. Virtually every day over the past week, Rae has been asked by reporters if he intends to run for the job permanently, despite having promised not to do so as a condition of accepting the interim post.

Rae has fuelled speculation by refusing to categorically rule it out. He has repeatedly said it's up to the party's national executive to decide whether to lift the ban on him contesting the permanent leadership and, unless and until that happens, he says he'll abide by the rules and do his job as interim leader.

With no leadership contest in the offing until the spring of 2013, there is no pressing need for the executive — or Rae — to clarify the situation any time soon.

David McGuinty, who has previously said Rae should make his intentions clear and give up the interim leadership if he intends to run, was more circumspect Saturday.

"Bob Rae is a phenomenal talent. He's very good for Canada, very good for our party," he said, adding that he's sure Rae will act "with good faith and goodwill," whatever and whenever he decides.

"(The timing) is really up to Bob. I'm taking the time I need to meet with all kinds of people here, talk to folks ... You just have to take the time to reflect seriously."

Many pundits have predicted that Rae, a polished and effective performer, will be handed the permanent leadership, without a challenge. But McGuinty said another coronation wouldn't be in the party's best interests.

"Whether Bob runs or not, I think we need to have a good, open race. I think Canadians want that."

The party's last leader, Michael Ignatieff, was chosen without a single ballot being cast. McGuinty said that fostered a perception that Ignatieff "didn't earn the leadership fair and square."

McGuinty's musings were ironic, coming just hours after his brother urged Liberals to get over their obsession with leadership and focus on the less glamorous grunt work that needs to be done to rebuild the party.

"Choosing a new leader is no quick fix. I am living proof of that," Dalton McGuinty told the convention on Friday evening, reminding delegates that it took him seven years and one election loss to finally win power.

"There are no saviours. There are no overnight successes. There is only hard work. Lots of it."

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Make Peace in Our Time
11:14 AM on 01/15/2012
the reality is this is probably the liberals last chance to solve their leadership question
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03:34 PM on 01/14/2012
The Liberal Party will only recover once the dialogue gets back to what's best for Canadians and not for the Liberal Party.
09:47 PM on 01/14/2012
Agreed and I am a Liberal Party member. The convention so far has not been particularly inspiring but hopefully tomorrow when they get on with the business of policy, some excitement and direction will evolve that Canadians can get behind.

Harper Inc. is the worst government in my memory. The NDP are toothless in the role of Official Opposition and I suspect that the Orange Crush in Quebec will in turn be crushed in the next election. The time is now for the Liberals to get out there and counter Harper Inc. and right now only Rae is getting the face time and is doing a good job. I remember it was Harris who wreaked havoc in Ontario and the henchmen surrounding Harper all come from the Harris regime. That is a tactic/attack that the Liberals have to come out swinging with. They need to take a page out of the Rove book themselves and go after their opponents with everything they can.
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03:23 PM on 01/14/2012
'Among those which have generated considerable opposition is a proposal to invite anyone willing to register as a Liberal supporter — not just card-carrying party members'
I find this one a bit suspect as well. A system like this could lend itself to abuse by Tory 'plants' who sign up as 'supporters' without any need for donations, etc. Harper's Cons have proven quite recently that they are not above dirty tricks to stay in power.
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08:07 PM on 01/14/2012
How true. Who can forget how the Mulroney Bus loads did in Joe who? in a similar manor?
12:09 PM on 01/14/2012
For McGuinty to manage to hold on to Ontario after everything shows a certain amount of political skill. However making him leader of the Federal Liberals would turn the the Liberal Party into the Bloc Ontario.
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03:25 PM on 01/14/2012
Can't say I agree with you there. I don't believe he's running, but if he did and were to become leader, one from Ontario could have great appeal nationwide (except Alberta, Conservative black zone).
04:47 AM on 01/15/2012
Being a long time provincial Liberal from Eastern canada McGinty may not be the best choice, people down this way love to hate Toronto and unfortunately Ontario is Toronto in that respect. Same would apply to Bob Rae, more so should he run for leadership of the party after insisting he would not.
11:53 AM on 01/14/2012
Blind leading blind
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11:45 AM on 01/14/2012
Dalton McGuinty is the most hated premier in Canada and has taken the richest Province in Canada and turned it into a have not Province. I really do not think that the Federal Liberals should take any advice from this man.
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03:27 PM on 01/14/2012
Puzzling how you would come to that conclusion since he just won a third term, against a decidedly Conservative tide. My guess is that you're pining for some Hudak.
12:08 AM on 01/15/2012
More forces were at work than just the premier where Ontario's economic status is concerned.
Only a blind political ideologue buys that the premier turned Ontario into a have-not province.
It wouldn't have mattered who was premier the last 10-15 years, Canada's manufacturing base has been killed by free trade and technology that moved jobs out of Ontario. The west is now filled with "have" provinces because of resources, not competent government.