B.C. Ecstasy Deaths: Teen Overdose May Be Latest In String Of Deaths

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First Posted: 01/16/12 05:50 PM ET Updated: 01/18/12 12:55 PM ET

VANCOUVER - Only one day after British Columbia's coroner warned the public a tainted batch of the illegal drug ecstasy has recently killed ten people in two provinces, a 16-year-old boy may have become its latest victim.

The B.C. Coroner's Service says it's investigating whether the death early Sunday in Langley, a suburb of Vancouver, may add to the string of ecstasy-related deaths in Western Canada.

The teen was out with people on Saturday night when it's believed he took the drug, along with other pharmaceutical drugs, according to the coroner.

A few hours later he collapsed, prompting a call to 911. The boy was rushed to Langley Memorial Hospital, but could not be revived.

The teen, whose name has not been released, may be the second recent young man to die after taking ecstasy in that city. 20-year-old Tyler Miller, who lived in neighbouring Abbotsford, died while partying with friends on Nov. 27.

The coroner is conducting toxicology tests to determine if the drug was indeed responsible, as well as to determine whether it was laced with an even more toxic additive that's been blamed for a spate of fatal overdoses.

Paramethoxymetamphetamine, or PMMA, has been found in the systems of three men and two women in B.C. among 18 ecstasy-related deaths since the start of 2011. Five more people recently died after injesting PMMA in Calgary.

The excessively toxic additive takes longer to produce hallucinogenic effects than the usual ingredient in ecstasy, which sometimes leads users to pop more pills or other substances to get desired effects.

"This latest death again emphasizes the point that every ingestion of ecstasy is a risk as there is no way of determining the actual ingredients of a drug concocted for profit in an unregulated environment," Chief Coroner Lisa Lapointe said in a release.

"Even though ecstasy is often thought to be a recreational drug rather than one of addiction, there is no known safe dose."

Mounties in Langley are working with the coroner to investigate.

"We'll be pursuing all the possible leads and ... one of the things that we would be looking to is where or from who they may have purchased illicit drugs," said Cpl. Holly Marks.

She couldn't provide further details about the specific investigation, only noting the death is not considered suspicious.

RCMP at B.C. headquarters wouldn't say whether progress has been made into tracking the source of the PMMA, which hasn't turned up in Western Canada until the recent deaths.

Cpl. Annie Linteau did say there are several ongoing investigations into the trafficking and distribution of ecstasy.

Police have also so far decided against posting photos of pills from the batch laced with PMMA.

"Stamps and the colour (of) pills are not consistent. They come in a variety," Linteau said in an email. "The key message here is that all ecstasy is bad."

The Lower Mainland is considered by police to be a manufacturing hub for ecstasy.

Tackling the production and distribution of synthetic drugs is an RCMP priority, Linteau added. Last year police dismantled more than 30 drug labs.

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vyskol
01:08 PM on 01/17/2012
Too bad there wasn't a legal source where people could get uncut - or at least safely cut - ecstasy... Until then, the deaths will continue.
06:22 AM on 01/17/2012
Back in the 90s they used to have a table at raves were you could bring your pills and they would shave a piece and test it and tell you what was in it. That was an underground day of responsible partying. They shut that down too. I remember this prevented some people from taking a pill that had DXM in it which was associated with one death due to overheating. These were valuable services that saved lives because there were sober people around who were concerned that people were safe.

You can't stop your drunk friend from getting loaded but you sure can steal his car keys and give him a glass of water. Shame on the RCMP for not releasing the info.
06:17 AM on 01/17/2012
The RCMP are irresponsible for not releasing pictures of the pills involved in the deaths. All this BS about not wanting to promote drug use. Sorry RCMP there is a whole world out there and if people could get this info out there friends of these people can spot the pills and raise alarm. Not only would you be able to track down where they are coming from but you could potentially save LIVES. Unfortunately, organizations such as the RCMP are always bound by ideology. Who is going to be the brave person to stand up and post the info online that is needed to stop these kids from dying. 18 deaths in the last year. Wake up people.
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PMJ79
01:30 PM on 01/17/2012
These kids can save their own lives by not taking the pills. Simple solution!
04:28 PM on 01/17/2012
Quick someone shuttle this guy to the PMO, he's found a solution to the War on Drugs no one has ever thought of.
01:36 AM on 01/17/2012
To clarify my comments below address the decision by police to not release information regarding the 'brand' markings in the pills.
01:35 AM on 01/17/2012
The decision by police is irresponsible.

We can only guess their motives, the obvious conclusion being a desire to scare people to view all pressed pills as possibly poisonous.
It might be argued that there may be other pills laced with the same thing with other markings and that releasing this information might act to 'endorse' other marked pills.
It is also possible they are hiding something to do with an investigation.

I think it is most likely that they are opportunistically using these deaths as a tool to promote fear. Rather then acting to protect the communities they purport to serve by offering harm reduction information, they are using this tragedy to promote an ideological agenda.
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PMJ79
01:32 PM on 01/17/2012
@ari to If people are dying from taking ecstasty, the fear is legitimate and not a "tool."

The "ideological agenda" is to save lives, the opposite of what yours is.
08:59 PM on 01/20/2012
I just saw your comment - and I thought I'd respond to your response

People were dying from taking a particular form of a pill- the contents of the pill normally described as "ectasy" (e.g. MDMA, MDA, possibly some form of amphetamine) were not what was doing them harm.

This was designed to engender a fear of all unknown pills (certainly caution is in order yes) rather than specifically listing how to identify the markings on a potential poison.

Why do you question my "ideological agenda" and propose that it is not to 'save lives"? I have proposed that the markings on a poison be made public. I would argue this is entirely congruent with an agenda of saving lives.

I take as a given that no broad fear based announcement will prevent all people from taking unknown pills.
I propose that a specific warning about a particular product will prevent all people from taking a specifically marked pill.

also- if someone had these pills to sell a general warning wouldn't prevent them from selling them, but knowing that what they were selling was poisonous in all likelihood would result in them not selling them- if only because killing people is bad business
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Jack Glastra
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01:02 AM on 01/17/2012
You guys still eat ecstasy pills up in Canada? Wow, go ahead and jump forward on into 1998 and get some pure MDMA. I seriously haven't heard of X pills in the PNW for like 8 years....
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ddanimal
12:25 AM on 01/17/2012
This death is a needless, direct result of prohibition.

Legalize drugs now.
12:37 AM on 01/17/2012
Your post has no foundation. Expand.
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Jack Glastra
My best comments are still pending.
01:03 AM on 01/17/2012
If this kid would have just been able to hop on down to a drugstore and pick up a little MDMA, none of this would have happened.
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ddanimal
06:12 PM on 01/18/2012
See this page:
http://www.ecstasydata.org/

See how many of these samples contain chemicals OTHER than MDMA? Users have no idea what they are getting, and many of these chemicals are far more dangerous than MDMA (e.g. TFMPP).

Prohibition INCREASES the dangers of illicit drugs because the market is completely unregulated. If you get a bad batch of drugs, there is no way you can sue the manufacturer. Hence, there is no incentive by dealers/manufacturers to sell the safest/purest product. The result is needless deaths like the ones reported here.

And when people do have a bad reaction to drugs, its more difficult for emergency medical people to figure out whats going on, because the ingested drug is unknown.
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PMJ79
01:33 PM on 01/17/2012
Legalization does not eliminate any of the risk. Don't pretend otherwise.
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ddanimal
06:00 PM on 01/18/2012
It eliminates a HUGE part of the risk: the inability for users to know what chemicals they are taking.

That is the PRIMARY cause of deaths from "ecstasy". Dealers sell all kinds of dangerous drugs with the misleading label of ecstasy.

See this website:
http://www.ecstasydata.org/

See how many of these samples are NOT MDMA? Users never know what they are getting. Thats far more dangerous than MDMA itself.

Goo look up TFMPP for example. Its far more dangerous than MDMA and the ONLY reason it is sold on the street is because of prohibition.

You are flat-out wrong.
12:22 AM on 01/17/2012
Frankly, I'm really sad to see Harper go after the pot crowd, rather than dedicate all resources to going after the real killers of our children; the pill makers, the crack makers the smack importers; these are the ones that should be filling Harpo's new jails.
09:24 PM on 01/16/2012
Hopefully these tragic death will serve as a wake up call to others... A cheap trill isn't worth losing your life!
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Jack Glastra
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01:04 AM on 01/17/2012
But rolling is a blast.... The trick is not to eat some crappy bootleg pills chalked full of lord knows what that some Vietnamese gangbanger made in his uncles shed.
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PMJ79
01:34 PM on 01/17/2012
"Hopefully these tragic death will serve as a wake up call to others... A cheap trill isn't worth losing your life!"

No, no it isn't!

F&F
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rickthaluddite
What noisy cats are we
08:47 PM on 01/16/2012
How many marijuana overdoses compared to other drugs? Or deaths from alcohol poisoning like Amy Winehouse? I heard a woman (who looked to be late 30s) describing her plan for the day in downtown Guelph, Ontario a couple days ago-- she was going to pop a couple of ritalin and smoke some weed until she could score some oxys later. I wasn't part of this conversation at all, but I was stunned by her lack of discretion.
08:35 PM on 01/16/2012
More victims of the war on drugs which of course is really a war on people. Young people particularly. Prohibition makes for blinding bathtub gin.
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Jake Thomas
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08:51 PM on 01/16/2012
People will die from drug overdoses whether they are illegal or not. When you consider alcohol and tobacco related deaths your argument makes no sense.
09:12 PM on 01/16/2012
No one can make "legal' ecstasy so there is no quality control nor regulation at all. It's all bathtub gin. Sure people "misuse" and abuse all kinds of stuff but it usually doesn't kill you in one pill or one puff. And believe me I'm not suggesting nor encouraging use or misuse of any kind. Prohibition just makes it worse.
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ddanimal
12:27 AM on 01/17/2012
You are wrong.

These deaths are a result of prohibition because with prohibition there is no way for users to know what they are taking. There is no accountability in the black market.

Users can only make responsible informed choices if they know exactly what chemicals they are taking.
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
07:56 PM on 01/16/2012
People are never going to stop taking drugs for non-medicinal purposes. Never. That includes your kids who will say to your face that they don't take drugs. This is just another argument for their proper regulation.
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
07:47 PM on 01/16/2012
Just say no to them synthetic molecules.
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jamster88
08:16 PM on 01/16/2012
So then 'yes' to heroin? : ) : ) : )
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
09:04 PM on 01/16/2012
This has been a public service announcement.