Parti Quebecois: Lower Voting Age, Citizen-Led Referendum Plan Adopted

First Posted: 01/29/2012 1:37 pm Updated: 01/29/2012 8:18 pm

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The Parti Quebecois has adopted a plan to lower the voting age to 16 and introduce citizen-led referendums in Quebec if elected to government.

MONTREAL - Future votes on Quebec's independence could be triggered by popular demand, if the Parti Quebecois is elected to government.

The provincial opposition party adopted a policy Sunday to introduce citizen-led referendums in Quebec, similar to the kind of plebiscites common in many U.S. states.

The proposal was led by a prominent MNA who argued that if 15 per cent of Quebecers signed a petition to hold a referendum on any topic, including sovereignty, there could be one.

The new policy is part of an effort to win back sovereigntists who question whether PQ Leader Pauline Marois is committed to holding another referendum.

The move shifts the pressure from the party leadership to the general public.

The PQ has faced pressure, since the last referendum in 1995, from its hardline wing eager for another shot.

But the party's leaders have been reluctant to commit to a rematch, with opinion polls suggesting the majority of the public is wary of another battle.

It's not clear, however, how exactly a citizen-led referendum would work _ or whether 15 per cent of the population would be all that's required to force one.

Speaking with reporters after the convention, Marois wouldn't commit to specifics.

"This issue isn't resolved and we'll need to debate it in the National Assembly," she said.

The policy was one of a series of measures approved by the party's delegates at a three-day convention devoted to "changing politics" that wrapped up Sunday in Montreal.

PQ delegates also came up with a plan to deal with political defectors.

The party has seen seven MNAs jump ship in the past few months, with several joining the popular new Coalition for Quebec's Future.

The adopted policy would ban switching parties in the middle of a term and require defectors to sit as independents.

Delegates also approved a proposal to lower the legal voting age to 16.

Dropping the voting age has long been debated within the PQ and young people are traditionally among the sovereignty movement's strongest supporters.

The proposal was contentious, with several young delegates arguing young people aren't usually informed enough to cast a ballot.

The party agreed the change would only take place after history and citizen education programs in the province's schools were improved.

After weeks of speculation, Marois now appears set to lead the PQ unopposed into the next election.

Former Bloc Quebecois chief Gilles Duceppe had been her rumoured replacement until he announced last weekend he wasn't going to return to active politics.

A new opinion poll released Saturday suggested the recent infighting at the PQ hasn't hurt their standing with voters.

The party placed a close third behind Premier Jean Charest's Liberals and the Coalition for Quebec's Future, which continues to lead the polls.

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08:33 PM on 01/29/2012
According to The Young Offenders Act, offenders under 18 are to be treated differently than adult offenders - in other words, they are normally not held as responsible for their actions.

In my book, they can vote when they are fully responsible for their actions.
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SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
08:33 PM on 01/29/2012
>> "The proposal was contentious, with several young delegates arguing young people aren't usually informed enough to cast a ballot."

Neither is your average Fox viewer in the States, but that doesnt stop them.

I would actually posit that a Canadian teenager is far more aware of politics and government than you might think. I see little problem with it... unless, of course, the PQ decides to run Justin Beiber for Parliament. :-)
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colpy
09:49 PM on 01/29/2012
And your average NDP voter is not even in contact with reality.......
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SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
11:23 PM on 01/29/2012
I'm curious: do you get some kind of kick out of acting like your average Fox viewer?
08:13 PM on 01/29/2012
Average PQ supporter is 76 arent they
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piceaglauca
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07:59 PM on 01/29/2012
Sixteen year olds are not so smart but they are easily influenced. Here again is another cheap vision of the Parti Quebecois to entice the young people. As parents they should know better. When Rene Levesque was around todays sixty year olds were the young people but they have withered and died. So now they want to brainwash another group of generation x and y children. Is this another Jim Jones movement? Pass the lemonade please.
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bbertaud
Je ne regrette rien, rien de rien
07:38 PM on 01/29/2012
Let's have small referendums....I bet half of Montreal will decide to stay in Canada, same with the West Island...the Innuit and the First nations should also have referendums...at the end Quebec will be reduced to Quebec City, Rosemont, Petite Patrie, Hochelaga-Maisonneuve and Ile Bizard...and no, Canada should not let them use the Canadian dollar, be part of NAFTA, any trade agreement with other countries, and the Quebecois should be required to request a visa to visit Canada, apply for immigration like foreigners they would be...and create their own army.

Anyone ready for the referendums?
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
07:08 PM on 01/29/2012
Of course they would.
07:06 PM on 01/29/2012
Only people who pay taxes should vote......
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colpy
05:57 PM on 01/29/2012
At 16 I was a Marxist.

I am now a dues-paying member of the Conservative Party.

Research indicates that the brain does not become fully developed until the early to mid twenties, and before that there is a tendency for individuals not to understand the consequences of their actions.

18 is young enough.
08:15 PM on 01/29/2012
Volunteered for NDP at age 17 because their girls were cuter than the PCs
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colpy
09:14 PM on 01/29/2012
And more willing..... :)
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08:27 PM on 01/29/2012
I was strongly progressive as well at a young age, in part likely due to the influence of teachers. There's something about youth that compels one to want to to control and engineer society, as if we are all ants in a colony.

And then I grew up.

The goods news - the young are less likely to vote.
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MochasMom
Common sense since 1968
05:47 PM on 01/29/2012
You know, if the voting age were lowered, maybe young people would be more inclined to be involved in politics and we'd have less voter apathy. If they're learning about it in school, and can then go out and participate in an election, maybe the lessons have more impact and meaning. Just a thought.
05:55 PM on 01/29/2012
agreed... if they know their voice counts, and they can effect real change in canada. before they are dumped from there sheltered high school existence, in to the real world. maybe they will be more inclined to get involved.

also if one can legally work, one should be able to vote on issues that may effect workers.
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BobbyZRay
Gentlemen prefer chaos
02:35 AM on 01/30/2012
Only if they can be pried away from their video-games.
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Spanky McFarlane
ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM.
05:40 PM on 01/29/2012
What's the 'take away' here- the Sovereignist brain is fully formed @ age 16, while others continue to develop ?

....& the choices the PQ want on the next Referendum Ballot ... 'Wii' or Non perhaps?
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greysells2
grey cells matter
05:25 PM on 01/29/2012
This is an idea to be considered more widely in Canada. Why shouldn't younger Canadians vote?
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colpy
05:58 PM on 01/29/2012
Put simply: Because they are intellectually immature.
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greysells2
grey cells matter
08:20 PM on 01/29/2012
I am 68 and I trust them to vote. What are you afraid of?
01:31 AM on 01/30/2012
I know 16 year old Canadians that can run intellectual marathons around people that are 30+ ...Your argument makes no sense.
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Ansdlmol
07:15 PM on 01/29/2012
It's called lack of experience and politicl savvy. Even 18 is too young to vote and although it will never happen it should be raised to at least 21.
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greysells2
grey cells matter
08:18 PM on 01/29/2012
This is giving old geezer like me at age 68 an advantage. the future is theirs. My granddaughters.
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greysells2
grey cells matter
08:50 PM on 01/29/2012
Well, the future is theirs and I am 68. But we cluck, cluck when the young are not involved in the game that we invented. Let it go a bit. Let the young have more of a say to involve them in the process of governing.
thediamond0000
as above, so below.
04:37 PM on 01/29/2012
Playing on the emotions of disaffected youth, nice plan.
If this changes so to must the drinking age and military eligibility.
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greysells2
grey cells matter
05:29 PM on 01/29/2012
Not necessarily. They can drive now. They might be able to make contracts, drink lawfully or be in the military later but they would need to convince the rest of before it will happen. I am interested in engaging youth in public responsibility and helping them learn about how we are governed. Possibly we could do this gradually with porvincial and municipal voting right granted first. I want to be reasonable but can we discuss it.
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bbertaud
Je ne regrette rien, rien de rien
07:39 PM on 01/29/2012
They should also pay taxes...if anything...and be tried in court like adults
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onethot
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01:53 AM on 02/13/2012
Yes, if they can vote at 16 then they should be considered as adults with all of the adult responsibilities and repercussions.
This is simply a PQ move to try to get the youth who are so easily influenced to vote for sovereignty. Sad.