Harper And The Public Pension Crisis: Experts Question Severity Of Problem

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First Posted: 01/30/2012 4:50 pm Updated: 01/31/2012 8:19 am

OTTAWA - To hear the prime minister and his cabinet talk, Canada's public pension system is unsustainable and needs major repair — likely in the form of a higher eligibility age for Old Age Security payments.

But number-crunching and projections by many economists and by the federal government's chief actuary suggest the sustainability problem is not severe.

And experts say raising the eligibility age risks hurting the most vulnerable in society.

"In order to have a system that's still in place and viable and sustainable 10, 20, 30 years from now, we need to make changes today," Government House Leader Peter Van Loan said Monday.

He was expanding on Stephen Harper's announcement last week that he would soon act to ensure the future of unfunded portions of the retirement income system.

Van Loan and Harper say no one who is already retired or close to retirement will see benefits slashed. But officials have made clear they are looking at Old Age Security over the medium and long term, since costs are expected to soar over the next few decades — even as the number of taxpayers dwindles.

The government points to the chief actuary's latest report that shows the combined cost of OAS and the Guaranteed Income Supplement rising to $108 billion in 2030 from $41 billion this year.

But since the economy is growing at the same time, the same report shows that those programs cost about 2.41 per cent of gross domestic product this year and will rise to about 3.14 per cent in 2030.

That's the peak. After 2030, the costs — measured as a share of the total economy — slide back slowly to reach today's levels again by about 2055.

"I don't think there's the problem that some people think," said Byron Spencer, a demographics economist at McMaster University in Hamilton.

He and his colleague Frank Denton have dissected the numbers and projections and found that, if Ottawa made no changes to any retirement benefits, taxpayers' contributions would have to increase to ensure other programs weren't cut.

Taxpayers currently contribute about 6.2 per cent of their wages to pay premiums into the Canada Pension Plan and in taxes to cover the general cost of OAS and GIS benefits. Twenty years from now, taxpayers would have to contribute about 12.5 per cent of their wages for the same package of retirement benefits, the researchers found.

"There's a trade off," Spencer said. "We could maintain the system as it is, and that would mean roughly doubling the contribution rates for the retirement income system as we have it at the moment ... or we could have people receive those benefits at a somewhat later age."

Officials say they are eyeing other countries' experiences with gradual increases in the retirement age, to see what Canada can learn.

In the United States, the government decided in the 1980s to move the retirement age from 65 to 67, but didn't start implementing the policy until 2003. Now, the retirement age is inching up by one month a year. The policy won't be fully implemented until 2025.

In Sweden, the retirement age is indexed to life expectancy.

The United Kingdom, Australia and some European countries have also adopted a slow, gradual approach to raising the age at which seniors can start collecting public pension benefits.

Even a gradual move can be jarring to a country's psyche, says Spencer.

"The big question of whether to keep age 65 as a fixed marker is a real question. It's been in place since Bismarck, since the late 1800s."

Raising the eligibility age to 67 is more than just a mental hurdle for many low-income workers, however.

The people on the low end of the income scale have shorter life expectancies than richer people, notes Andrew Jackson, chief economist for the Canadian Labour Congress and one of the country's top experts on retirement security.

For many low-skilled jobs, manual labour is difficult to sustain after the age of 65, he adds.

And since the Guaranteed Income Supplement for low-income seniors is tied tightly to receiving OAS, Ottawa can't really raise the age for one program without raising the age for the other, Jackson said.

"For people on a low income, they're really going to lose out."

OAS and GIS have been widely credited for keeping poverty at bay for tens of thousands of seniors, adds Matthew Mendelsohn, director of the Mowat Centre for Policy Innovation in Toronto.

So any changes in federal policy should be shaped to make sure poverty among seniors is not exacerbated, he said.

"It's often people who have worked (low-skilled) hard jobs who are more in need of the public system when they turn 65," he said. "It is they who would be more severely penalized by changes."

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  • Top 10 Most Expensive MP Pensions

    Welcome to the $3 million club. The following 10 MPs will each receive an estimated total lifetime pension of more than $3 million if they retire in 2019. All the <a href="http://taxpayer.com/sites/default/files/CTFMP-PensionReport-WEB.pdf" target="_hplink">estimates come from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation</a> and are based on an MP retiring in 2019 and ceasing to receive their pension at age 80. The numbers if the MPs retire in 2015 are also included in the caption to each slide.

  • 10. Michael Chong - $3,124,903

    Conservative MP Michael Chong would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $2,684,816 if he were to retire in 2015.

  • 9. Peter Van Loan - $3,194,114

    Conservative MP Peter Van Loan would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $2,462,029 if he were to retire in 2015. (CP)

  • 8. Rona Ambrose - $3,330,876

    Conservative MP Rona Ambrose would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $2,429,149 if she were to retire in 2015. (CP)

  • 7. Rob Anders - $3,643,873

    Conservative MP Rob Anders would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $3,034,089 if he were to retire in 2015. (Jeff McIntosh/CP)

  • 6. Denis Coderre - $3,701,989

    Liberal MP Denis Coderre would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $3,288,821 if he were to retire in 2015. (Graham Hughes/CP)

  • 5. Scott Brison - $3,723,666

    Liberal MP Scott Brison would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $3,113,881 if he were to retire in 2015.

  • 4. James Moore - $3,795,386

    Conservative MP James Moore would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $2,893,658 if he were to retire in 2015. (Althia Raj)

  • 3. Gerry Byrne - $3,996,498

    Liberal MP Gerry Byrne would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $3,450,711 if he were to retire in 2015.

  • 2. Jason Kenney - $4,318,507

    Conservative MP Jason Kenney would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $3,416,779 if he were to retire in 2015. (CP)

  • 1. Stephen Harper - $5,596,474

    Prime Minister Stephen Harper would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $5,456,109 if he were to retire in 2015. Harper's numbers are based on the PM not buying back into the program for his service as a Reform Party MP between 1993-1997. In order to make a political statement, Harper did not contribute to the pension program during his time as a Reform MP. After returning to Parliament Hill in 2002, Harper could have retroactively contributed to the program for his service from 1993 to 1997. According to the PMO, Harper has not and will not make those contributions. MPs are not obligated to disclose this information. If Harper were to choose to buy back in for those years, his numbers would change. If he were to buy back in and retire in 2019 he would receive an estimated lifetime pension of $6,216,858 and $6,233,568 if he were to retire in 2015. His numbers also include the special allowance he will receive as Prime Minister. An earlier version of this story used the numbers based on Harper buying back in for the 1993 to 1997 period. After being contacted by the PMO with the prime minister's pledge not to do so, the numbers were updated. (CP)

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OTTAWA - To hear the prime minister and his cabinet talk, Canada's public pension system is unsustainable and needs major repair — likely in the form of a higher eligibility age for Old Age Security...
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JackHoffman
Pundit
10:28 PM on 02/01/2012
This 'sustainable' issue has been going on for decades. Entitlements are always used to beat the populace into submission on a variety of these fools' errands.
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Vik Dhawan
02:34 PM on 02/01/2012
I don't agree with this at all. But if you wanted to make reforms start the claw backs earlier and cut them of earlier. Currently seniors making over 109k (I think something around that number is the cut off) is at the point where their OAS is cut off and the claw backs start in the 50k range. The average married retired couple spends around 35k a year. The question I pose is at what point would you have the cut off at? I am just spit balling a number but maybe the cut off could sit the average Canadian salary (just an idea)?
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
10:54 AM on 02/01/2012
The real problem is in Ottawa:

"10. Michael Chong - $3,124,903 (2015 = $2,684,816)
9. Peter Van Loan - $3,194,114 (2015 = $2,462,029)
8. Rona Ambrose - $3,330,876 (2015 = $2,429,149)
7. Rob Anders - $3,643,873 (2015 = $3,034,089)
6. Denis Coderre - $3,701,989 (2015 = $3,288,821)
5. Scott Brison - $3,723,666 (2015 = $3,113,881)
4. James Moore - $3,795,386 (2015 = $2,893,658)
3. Gerry Byrne - $3,996,498 (2015 = $3,450,711)
2. Jason Kenney - $4,318,507 (2015 = $3,416,779)
1. Stephen Harper - $6,216,858 (2015 = $6,233,568)
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rickthaluddite
What noisy cats are we
09:50 AM on 01/31/2012
I can wait until 2015 when Canadians tell Stephen Harper and his Regressive Conservative lackeys to take the long walk off the short pier. He can't remake Canada into what he and his filthy rich friends want in 3 years.
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
08:48 AM on 01/31/2012
This article will shed some light on the origins of Harper's economic and social perversions.

http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2005/11/29/HarperBush/
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
08:03 AM on 01/31/2012
If you lose your job, late in life, say after 60, there is little chance of finding a new one. Raising the age of eligibility will just mean more years of little or no income for those individuals.
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bigmovieman
living free without the 1st and 2nd amendment
06:11 AM on 01/31/2012
test
01:09 AM on 01/31/2012
Huffpo - it's not cool with me that you steal my tweet to use as your headline without at least giving credit.
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yukoner1
Living way up the left coast.
12:43 AM on 01/31/2012
One more reason why the tories should never, ever be trusted with a majority government. We just had an election; was this an issue? Not that I recall.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
03:00 AM on 01/31/2012
They campaigned on moderation and the status quo...Ah what do we expect from the income trust liars and the Redneck Reform Party.
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
08:01 AM on 01/31/2012
The exact reason why I argued against a majority. Of course, those who argued for one only wanted the Conservative to be able to push through all of their "wonderful ideas". This, is one of them.
12:34 AM on 01/31/2012
Don't bother the reformcons with facts and knowledge. It only confuses them and forces them to sidetrack from their hidebound ideology. And their lips get tired from too much reading.
10:15 AM on 01/31/2012
You're right; that's why they won a decisive majority.
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Vik Dhawan
02:24 PM on 02/01/2012
41% Support isn't really all that decisive. 59% are to the left of them.
11:11 PM on 01/30/2012
If life expectancy goes up, then the age should go up.
07:22 AM on 01/31/2012
I thought people were being made redundant by machines and automation? I guess that the answer is not to have more free time and earlier retirement, but instead for people to cut each other's throats for slimmer pickings so that some plutocratic scum can take it all.
10:33 PM on 01/30/2012
This is what happens when the right wing goes about implementing the Chinese model.
Austerity is a boondoggle in and of itself.

Stop Harper.
10:16 PM on 01/30/2012
Don't they already tax back the OAS if you income is over a certain threshold. I don't think we should penalize the most vulnerable eg working poor and stay at home moms. Are the conservatives attacking their own base? Perplexing.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
03:01 AM on 01/31/2012
Just the poor ones who thought it was cool to vote for them...now they get to eat crow.
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09:46 PM on 01/30/2012
Harper out in 2015!
10:14 AM on 01/31/2012
Harper in in '15.
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ljkcan
I don't let geographical borders limit my thinking
09:34 PM on 01/30/2012
Try getting a job at 65. I think we should take all the elderly senators sitting there with a cushy pension a job for as long as they like and become angry Canadians. When we are subsidising
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ljkcan
I don't let geographical borders limit my thinking
09:41 PM on 01/30/2012
sorry' for every dollar an MP gets in pension we are giving them five.