Canada China Trade: Beijing Wants Arctic Status, Ambassador Says Before Harper Trip

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First Posted: 02/ 2/2012 7:12 am Updated: 02/ 2/2012 7:12 am

MONTREAL - China may use the upcoming visit by Prime Minister Stephen Harper to try convincing him that it deserves a more prominent role in the Arctic.

Next year Canada begins a two-year term as chair of the Arctic Council, which comprises the eight nations that ring the North Pole.

Even though it has no Arctic territories, China wants a place at that table.

Zhang Junsai, the Chinese ambassador to Canada, told a Montreal audience on Wednesday that his country should be allowed to be there.

"Of course, China wishes to be an observer," he said.

The Arctic region may contain as much as one-quarter of the Earth's untapped oil and gas, reserves that will become more accessible as temperatures rise and polar ice caps melt.

Meanwhile, China covets additional energy and resources to power its fast-growing economy and is already investing heavily in Canada's oilsands. That theme of energy exports is expected to play a central role in Harper's upcoming trip.

In his speech Wednesday to the Montreal Council on Foreign Relations, Junsai focused on bilateral relations between Canada and China, and on Harper's visit. Junsai said he believed the trip would have a very positive impact on relations.

When asked afterwards by an audience member about Chinese views on the Arctic, the ambassador noted that a number of countries were involved in the region.

"We hope that (they) solve their differences by peaceful means," Junsai added. "My understanding, not of my government, is we should have a joint scientific research in this area because a lot of things are unknown...

"We hope that the countries related should support China's request.''

The ambassador said the two countries can strengthen research and development and business co-operation in a number of fields like the aerospace sector.

"Canada is a leading world player in the aerospace industry, while China is developing large passenger aircraft," he noted. "This is the area that we can work together."

Benjamin Boehm, the head of Bombardier Aerospace China, says the Montreal-based company wants to be a big part of their aircraft market.

"The number of deliveries, especially on the commercial aircraft market side where Bombardier competes, is actually bigger than Europe over the next 20 years," he said in an interview. "That's how many commercial jets China alone will need over the next 20 years."

But Boehm dismissed concerns that China might also represent a long-term threat to the Canadian aerospace giant.

"Theoretically, you'll be threatened everywhere you go, sooner or later," he said.

"The point is to develop mutually beneficial partnerships, industrial-wise, so that you can both grow together — that's really what our intention is in the aerospace market as well."

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06:57 PM on 02/16/2012
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08:20 PM on 02/08/2012
The relation with China and Canada is an excellent for each countries!
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MarsAmbassador
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12:27 PM on 02/03/2012
Definition of a vicious circle right here:

"The Arctic region may contain as much as one-quarter of the Earth's untapped oil and gas, reserves that will become more accessible as temperatures rise and polar ice caps melt."
11:07 AM on 02/03/2012
canada-china-u.s-international water rights

Recently there's been an interest in the north. The canadian government has been active in the
northern regions and in waterways near the tundra,and so have Russia,and the right to drill and
take resources from these places is a murky international area regarding rights. Even the u.s. has been known to pass through the northwest passage...and now China who is invested in the oilsands and as an international investor has an interest or right from their perspective in the
north as well as on looker status,with no territoory legal rights,but do any nation heed these rights now ie territorial waters,is not always apparent. There is a legal limit from any shore,in which a nation has legal rights,beyond that is international waters and anyone can patrol. China may not like nations around their waters,if in fact they are there,and they may patrol elsewhere,but i dont know. Does anyone obey these international laws...or flout them. These issues become especially important due to global warming...and the legal rights to fish explore and look for
resources in these waters...all these new interests in the far north so long ignored...and where are
the ploar bears???Wasn't that a reagan joke!!
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12:33 PM on 02/06/2012
Investing in the tar sands, which are several hundred, maybe a thousand miles, from the nearest bit of the Arctic Ocean, is not a reason to declare "interest" in the Arctic (the Tar Sands are not actually in the Arctic, they're SubArctic....). Buying resources in Canada does not give China the right to control Canadian territorial policy nor Canadian national integrity. Nor does sailing a cruise ship through the Northwest Passage without requesting Canadian permission for it (as even US ships will now do).

China appears to be grandstanding this to the point where it may even bluster towards war if it doesn't get a share of the Arctic and the right to abuse it, and disabuse those countries around its shores for not letting it lord itself over them. No doubt they'll want a share of the South Pacific, too, and the Southern Ocean, and a chunk of both North and South Atlantics.

We won't get as far as China going to war over this, though - the oceans and the atmosphere will be dead first, and all of us with them both.

No doubt a few billion bodies rotting in the risen oceans will bring back the marine life, though.
10:02 PM on 02/06/2012
They'll want an interest in all of these places, you are correct, I do believe the United States, for some odd reason, has a similar type of "interest" across the globe. It's not as simple as China getting to the point of blustering towards war. Conflict will develop via proxies and the usual build up of nonsense, and by the time we go about attempting to redraw the maps, the world will be fully globalized, and these lines will be meaningless. Borders eliminated, such an impossible notion you say, but than again, so was reversing the claim that the world was flat.
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Creox
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04:24 PM on 02/02/2012
LOL

well, I say I want the wall of china as part of my retaining wall. Don't mean I'll get it.
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Warren Yuill
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04:19 PM on 02/02/2012
And people ask
Why do we need new ships?
and
Why do we need new planes?
This is why.
If we're not there, someone else will be.
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stopgeorge
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04:37 PM on 02/02/2012
I've got to agree with you on this one -- when it comes to China.
07:34 PM on 02/02/2012
So your saying we can't monitor the north with satelites , that we need to constantly patrol the north . That if we don't China will just set up shop in the north and start building oil rigs . Come on . This is the 20th century .
09:12 PM on 02/02/2012
Yep, I am baffled, I love the potential of forward time travel, but please, at least travel a couple of centuries further... Anywho, 21st century, satellites... okay, sounds good, let's get ourselves high tech front row seats to the theft of Arctic sovereignty. We don't need ships to patrol the arctic, we need ships that can actually operate there, the only damn on we have is currently out of service, meanwhile, South Korea, the Russians, and, of course, the chinese are building fleets of nuclear icebreakers. We need some of those. No discussion of their intention is required, there is no question, we have an arctic coastline, we need the tools to operate around it.
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Liviu
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03:57 PM on 02/02/2012
How about splitting the task and let China "do some scientific research in Antarctica".
There is a lot of unknows at the South Pole as well. Then we can do some research comparison.
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Amorak
03:41 PM on 02/02/2012
Right about now, I'd rather be tied to an ascendant China than to a declining USA! Get that pipeline to Kitimat built! Oil out! Yuan in!
09:14 PM on 02/02/2012
Careful now, we've all seen the hollywood works of art that have shown us what happens when allegiances are so quickly altered to favor the "apparent" beneficial arrangement. We must remember that, for all that matters, Americans are one and the same as us.
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RavenHawk
08:23 AM on 02/06/2012
I agree Lets give America our keys and stop pretending we are a country and merge our provinces as states....just stating the obvious.
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stopgeorge
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03:29 PM on 02/02/2012
And this goes to show you how power hungry China is.
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stopgeorge
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03:26 PM on 02/02/2012
How about...

Give the country of Taiwan a seat at the UN -- and we'll talk.
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03:08 PM on 02/02/2012
"Even though it has no Arctic territories, China wants a place at that table."

How about....NO.
09:19 PM on 02/02/2012
Borders are obsolete. China shares a cultural connection to the arctic, its North-Eastern population is tied directly with the populations of Siberia, Kamchatka, and other Northern Russian territories. Chinese historic involvement with the Artic is more storied than our own, and we cannot simply say no, because we Europeans bothered to sail our ships over here and drew a map, signed some papers, and signed it, Canada. Nah, China gets a say, they get a place at the table, and they get to participate in the global action to properly manage Arctic resources.
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All Seeing Guy
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11:03 PM on 02/02/2012
And if wishes were horses China would have oil. Sorry; borders are very much in fashion, and some six degrees of separation cultural claim isn't worth the electrons it's emailed with.
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01:14 AM on 02/03/2012
"They've expressed the necessary interest and funding for scientific progress, we have not.”"

I for one would love to hear about China's expertise in 'preventing pollution'.

"And why is it, again, that we even have business at that table, is it because of 19th century geopolitic­s?"

Basically, we're here, and it's our table.
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09:04 AM on 02/03/2012
Agreed, 100%... NO to China's wishes.
10:10 PM on 02/06/2012
Earn the right to say no
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02:20 PM on 02/02/2012
China has in the past stated that they are entitled to the percentage of the arctic that they have percentage of the world's population. Nice try China.
09:20 PM on 02/02/2012
Yet 33 million people are permitted to solely occupy one fifth of the worlds landmass.... Don't think so.
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09:03 AM on 02/03/2012
I think so. Sorry John.

If that's the case, China should do a HELL of a lot more in regards to environmental concerns since they're dumping a lot of garbage into the atmosphere, waters and the environment as a whole.
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Skookum1
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11:21 AM on 02/06/2012
"Permitted" huh? By who?

The bigoted fallacies of your argument are many as is your complete lack of understanding about the nature of that 1/5 of the world's landmass, and what the terms "taiga" and "tundra" and "barren rock" mean. All you see is resources, and some stupid figure juxtaposing the notion that an overpopulated and quite frankly swarming mass of humanity that's confined itself to a small territory for thousands of years now WANTS ALL THE REST.

Only about 5%, if that, of the Canadian landmass is actually habitable.

And as for who really owns it, I suggest you talk to the First Nations and Inuit about that. Oh - but they're just primitive aboriginals compared to the sophisticated civilization of China which now wants to sweep them aside so it can get more oil huh?
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02:06 PM on 02/02/2012
Any Country that want's 'Observer Status' should be entitled to it as what goes on in the world impacts the Artic & vice versa, IMO.
This 'body' was kick started by Canada & can only gain credibility by inclusion.

Similarly if such a board existed on the Rain Forest in South America or other eco sensitive area, I would want Canada to be able tp monitor or observe.
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spinnerator
01:55 PM on 02/02/2012
Tell China to go pound it! They aren't an Arctic nation and have no stake in what goes on there. Might as well bring Brazil to the table. It's not like China has a history of environmentally friendly policies (and don't mention Wind Turbines they're bogus). They're still a megapoluter.
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jamster88
01:16 PM on 02/02/2012
How does China fathom having 'arctic status'?

They are a zillion miles away.

Send them home.
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01:53 PM on 02/02/2012
They are saying they just want observer status, which is common in most international talks and organizations.
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Skookum1
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06:20 PM on 02/02/2012
Ya sure, like NATO......or the Nordic Council, for that matter. Or the OAS or the OAU.

The Arctic, like the atmosphere, doesn't have to be 1/3 Chinese just because that's their population. By the same argument, India should be at the table; India has the good manners not to ask, because they don't need other powers deciding to stake out the Indian Ocean any more than they already have (Kerguelen, Diego Garcia etc).

"We want to live beyond our means like you have for so long. Give us a chunk of all of what's left or you're being racist"....etc. I can hear the sop coming - even if Harper has the jam to say no.

Putin certainly does.