Neo-Nazi Member Calls Hacking 'An Invasion Of Privacy'

First Posted: 02/ 2/2012 9:07 pm Updated: 02/ 6/2012 11:35 am

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A group of hackers released names of people linked to Neo-Nazi websites.


Some Canadians whose associations with white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups were recently revealed, are defending their involvement with the organizations, while others deny having anything to do with the groups anymore.


CBC News reported Wednesday that the names of 74 Canadians were found in files leaked by computer hackers in Europe who were intent on exposing hate movements. The identities were revealed on a website called Nazi Leaks, which is now offline.


“It is an invasion of privacy,” said Joel Henry, of Langley, B.C., in a telephone interview with CBC News Thursday.


“I have my beliefs and I still have my beliefs,” said Henry. “It’s just certain members of the group want to go out and beat the s--t out of people and I don’t condone that.”




McLean Welsh, of Nanaimo, B.C., who is attending school in Quebec, sought to distance himself from one of the hacked organizations.


“I could be on the list because I bought a couple T-shirts off that website a couple of years ago,” said Welsh, when reached via Skype. “For instance, the shirt I’m wearing right now.”


Welsh said he has severed his ties with the group.


“I joined the Stormfront once and it just didn’t appeal to me,” said Welsh. “Because as soon as you say you’re proud to be white, you’re automatically associated with a Nazi party.”


Membership not illegal


New Westminster police detective Terry Wilson, head of the B.C. hate crime team, said he and his colleagues aren't sure if the hacked information is useful for their purposes or not.


Wilson also cautioned that the RCMP is not trying to police how people think, but will step in once individuals’ actions break the law.


“Membership [in these groups] is not against the law,” he said. ”It’s when your motivations make you do criminal offences, that’s when it becomes a police issue and that’s when the B.C. hate crime team and other hate crime teams across the country get involved.”


Police and government security organizations should be able to make use of the hacked information, according to Simon Fraser University professor Andre Gerolymatos, who has written extensively on espionage.


“Any information is good information,” said Gerolymatos. “Something that comes like this is sort of a small bonanza. And at the very least it can verify information that [authorities] already have.”


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Superpac
I think, therefore I'm not a republican.
07:03 PM on 02/03/2012
Boo-Hoo. As I recall from history, the Nazis where not overly concerned with privacy.
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06:05 PM on 02/03/2012
They hacked up a hairball this time.
05:38 PM on 02/03/2012
I hate Illinois (and B.C.) nazis........
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BabylonDon
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02:55 PM on 02/03/2012
“I joined the Stormfront once and it just didn’t appeal to me,” said Welsh. “Because as soon as you say you’re proud to be white, you’re automatically associated with a Nazi party.”

You know, when someone has to resort to pigmentation as a source of personal pride, they haven't got a single other thing to take pride in.
03:59 PM on 02/03/2012
That is true and to add it makes no sense to be proud about it or sad about it! It is what you are so move on and live a life!
02:30 PM on 02/03/2012
"Microphones have been thrust in the faces of Afghan and Muslim Canadians, demanding answers. The media did not harass Christians following the premeditated murders of women by Clifford Olsen or the sexual assault and murders of girls by Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka colluding together. Nor did we pound all Catholics following revelations of sexual abuse of young boys by priests." Are all Canadians on the list? I feel many should be on that list since hate is growing in Canada since Sep,11,2011.
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rockysparks
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02:03 PM on 02/03/2012
Neo-Nazism consists of post-World War II social or political movements seeking to revive Nazism or some variant thereof. The term neo-Nazism can also refer to the ideology of these movements.

Nazism promoted political violence, militarism, and war. It conceived of politics as being a "battle", and the Nazis utilized their paramilitary organization, the Sturmabteilung (SA) for violent attacks upon those they opposed, particularly communists, Jews, homosexual people, Romani people and social democrats. The Nazis glorified war and openly promoted German territorial expansionism into Eastern Europe to be Lebensraum ("living space") for German settlers that would result in the creation of a "greater German empire".

Considering what the Nazis accomplished the literal extermination of millions of lives in Germany and other parts of Europe, I'm not surprised that some countries don't have a problem with keeping tabs on people who belong to organizations that want to revive such activities.

It's not much different from wanting to know if a child molester is living near your children. Self-preservation is generally considered acceptable in normal society.
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Aurel1us
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01:31 PM on 02/03/2012
Participation in supremacist groups should not be legal in Canada. Our diversity is a strength. Literally a genetic advantage over less diverse populations. In any case, if you're racist enough to be forming a "group"(gang) of similarly racist folk. What good does that do? What can you possibly accomplish with these people? Spreading hate? (illegal) Beating up people? (illegal) I don't think that these nazi-types engage in any other "group" activities. Anyway, if people are forming groups to engage in illegal activity...cut out the middle man and make it illegal to form hate groups.
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01:16 PM on 02/03/2012
Nothing about Ron Paul being involved with / in contact with numerous members board of directors?
01:14 PM on 02/03/2012
So if some kids download some songs, or a movie... They get the entertainment industry after them trying to sue them or take them to court. If some hackers expose some information on a group of racists, thats cool and the police can use that information?

What the hackers did is still illegal, and if identified, they should be prosecuted.

If any of this information which was released leads to an arrest, unfortunately that case should be thrown out. The information was obtained illegally... Plain an simple. I'm not racist by any means... however we do have a certain thing called due process which we are all entitled to. If not, whats to stop hackers from going on to any of our home computers, and forwarding every / anything questionable to police?
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BobbyZRay
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02:02 PM on 02/03/2012
Just don't do illegal and/or morally repulsive acts.
They won't be sending your pot brownie recipes to the police.
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TwoZeroOZ
02:23 PM on 02/03/2012
What "Information was obtained illegally"?

These are names and addresses, not "evidence of crimes" as you seem to imply.
02:56 PM on 02/03/2012
I haven't implied anywhere that what these groups did was illegal. What I'm saying is that if anything comes from this released data that leads to an arrest (whatever the crime), that case shouldn't be allowed to goto court.

This information, names, addresses... That was all private information that was hacked. These inviduals then took the names and address they found from in a secure location and released it to the public. Last time I checked, that was illegal.
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01:07 PM on 02/03/2012
The best part of this story is what will happen when a potential employer googles their names, ahh Karma....
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Adrian31
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02:33 PM on 02/03/2012
Exactly! The main reason for the hack was to out these people and shame them in public. They, themselves may not feel shame, but that will probably change as their names are displayed and their anonymity is stripped.