Harper Confirms Changes To Old Age Security Possible

Old Age Security Canada

First Posted: 02/ 3/2012 9:38 pm Updated: 02/ 6/2012 3:35 pm


The Conservative government is considering increasing the age of eligibility for Canada's Old Age Security system, Prime Minister Stephen Harper confirmed Friday.


Harper had been less than clear on the matter since alluding to such a change in Davos, Switzerland more than a week ago, but in an interview with Postmedia News and the National Post published on Friday, the prime minister confirmed the government is exploring the idea of gradually increasing OAS eligibility from the current 65.


The OAS provides a pension to those over the age of 65 who have lived in Canada for at least 10 years.


“Absolutely, it’s being considered,” Harper said. “But what we have to be clear on is that we are not looking at changes that are going to affect people that are currently in retirement or approaching retirement. We’ve been very clear on that.”


Numerous media reports have speculated that the increase would be two years, raising the age to 67. Those two extra years would, in effect, keep people in the workforce longer and lighten the immediate load on the OAS system.


Harper reiterated that while no decisions have been made, the fact that Canada will have a lower percentage of its population working will become a significant economic issue.


The "aging of the population and the shrinking of the labour force is a serious economic challenge for Canada, as it is for other countries,” Harper said. “But we do have some advantages. We have a more vibrant economy. We have a better fiscal situation. We have a central government pension plan — the Canada Pension Plan — that is actuarially sound.”


Seeking opposition input


The prime minister has met with interim NDP Leader Nycole Turmel to discuss the official Opposition's priorities for the government's next budget, expected in the next few weeks.


Turmel says she urged Harper to focus on job creation and not to cut programs and services that hard-pressed families rely on in tough times. The NDP has opposed the idea of raising the OAS eligibility age.


While Turmel believes Harper "understood" her concerns, she said, it's unlikely he intends to act on them.


The budget is expected to slash as much as $8 billion from federal spending, which the government says is needed to erase the deficit built up during the 2008-2009 global recession and to set out a long-term path to ensure OAS remains sustainable.


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  • OAS vs CPP

    Here is a look at OAS and the CPP and how they differ. (Getty) <em>With files from CBC</em>

  • What is OAS?

    The Old Age Security pension is a monthly payment available to Canadians aged 65 and older who apply and meet certain requirements. Unlike CPP, it is not dependent on a person's employment history and a person does not need to be retired from a job to qualify. The government adjusts the OAS payment every three months to account for increases in the cost of living according to the Consumer Price Index. The average monthly amount was $508.35 in the last quarter of 2011. The maximum payout for the first quarter of 2012 is $540.12. There are also supplementary programs, including the Guaranteed Income Supplement, which provide additional income to low-income seniors. The government claws back OAS payments from high-income Canadians. In 2011, for example, if you were retired but had an income of more than $67,668 (from things like pensions and personal investments), the government would reclaim part of your OAS payment - 15 cents for every dollar of income that you had above the $67,668 threshold. That means that if you were retired with an annual income of around $110,000 or more in 2011, your OAS payout would be reduced to zero. (alamy)

  • Who Is Eligible?

    OAS is available to Canadian citizens and legal residents living in the country who have spent at least 10 years in Canada after they turned 18. It is also open to people outside of the country who were Canadian citizens or legal residents on the day they left the country, as long as they spent at least 20 years of their adult life in Canada. (Getty)

  • When Should You Apply?

    A person should apply for OAS six months before they turn 65. If you have not lived in Canada continuously or were not born in Canada, the government requires a statement containing all the dates when you entered and left the country. It may also ask for supporting documentation. If a person applies after age 65, they can receive up to 11 months in retroactive payments along with a payout for the month in which a person applies to receive OAS. So if a person applied after their 66th birthday, they would receive 12 months of OAS payments. (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/elwillo/" target="_hplink">Flickr:Keith Williamson</a>)

  • How Is The Rate Calculated?

    In order to qualify for a full pension, a person must have lived in Canada for at least 40 years after turning 18. People also qualify if they reached the age of 25 on or before July 1, 1977, and either lived in Canada, had some residency in the country after age 18, or held a valid Canadian immigration visa and spent the 10 years immediately before appying in Canada. For those who do not qualify for a full pension, a partial amount is paid out based on the number of years spent living in Canada. For instance, if a person has spent 36 years of their adult life in the country, they will earn 36/40th of the full OAS amount. Based on the eligibilty requirements, the minimum payout is one-quarter of the total, to account for a total of 10 years spent in Canada. Once a partial pension has been approved, the percentage of the total OAS pension received will never increase even if a person spends more years in Canada. (Matt Cardy/Getty Images)

  • What Is CPP?

    The Canada Pension Plan is a form of retirement income that is open to all Canadians who have worked and paid into the system through deductions from their paycheques. The amount a person receives under the system depends on how much and for how long a person contributed, along with the age at which a person started receiving CPP payments. There are three types of CPP benefits: disability benefits, retirement pension and survivor benefits. For the purposes of clarity, this article focuses on retirement pension form of CPP. The average monthly CPP benefit in 2011 was $512.64. The maximum payment in 2012 is $987.67. The government adjusts the CPP rate every January to account for changes in cost of living as measured by the Consumer Price Index. According to Service Canada, "If you have lived and worked in Canada most years between age 18 and 65 and earned about the average Canadian wage ($39,100 in 2002), at age 65 you would receive a CPP retirement pension of about $788 a month." (Getty)

  • Who Is Eligible?

    Anyone who has made a payment to CPP is eligible for full retirement pension benefits once they reach the age of 65. A person can begin receiving CPP anytime after age 60 if they stop working or reduce their income, although they incur a financial penalty by doing so. In 2012, a person receiving CPP early will be subject to a 0.52 per cent reduction for each month before the age of 65 that they received payments. That number is slated to rise to 0.6 per cent each month in 2016. On the other hand, if a person chooses to delay CPP payments they receive a similar increase for each month they wait between the age of 65 and 70. In 2012, that increase works out to 0.64 per cent per month and will rise to 0.7 per cent next year. (alamy)

  • When Should You Apply?

    This is really up to the individual and whether they want to receive a smaller or larger CPP benefit. However, the government recommends applying six months before a person wants their pension to begin. Canadians can apply online or print out an application and deliver it to a Service Canada location. Similar to OAS, a person can receive retroactive payments covering up to 12 months if they delay applying for CPP until after their 71st birthday. (alamy)

  • How Much Do I Contribute To CPP?

    A person contributes 4.95 per cent of of their total pensionable income -- set at a maximum of $50,100 in 2012 -- to a total of $2,306.70 in contributions per year. Their employer contributes an equivalent amount. Self-employed people, on the other hand, must contribute both portions. Anyone earning less than $3,500 is automatically exempt from CPP contributions. At age 70, a person stops contributing to CPP even if they continue working. (alamy)

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12:22 PM on 02/06/2012
The OAS does require changes, particularly in the area of new Canadians. After living here 10 years, they qualify. For an example, the son arrives in Canada with his wife and family, once he has settled, he brings his mother and father, after10 years his parents are eligible for the OAS, they also draw on the social programs from the country they come from. They have never contributed financially to Canada's social security programs, but qualify for the Canadian OAS and GIS. All the other young working Canadians who are trying to prepare for their own retirement are paying for these pensions that new Canadians qualify for. In most cases these new Canadians have never contributed financially through the tax system. Why don't we cut in this area first before we start penalizing Canadians who were born here and worked all their lives in Canada.
BritishColumbian
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11:06 AM on 02/06/2012
Stephen Hume who writes editorials for the Vancouver Sun had an excellent column in today's paper with two themes. The first was the hypocricy of the Harper Gov'ts attacks on the above 100 000 salary of 13 % of CBC staff with the salaries, perks, etc of MPs and Cabinet Ministers.

The second was to remind Canadian taxpayers about the pensions afforded MPs

1. They receive their pensions at 55
2. For every dollar they contribute we contribute 23
3. Under law the MP's pension plan is required to return a minimum of 10.34 per cent return (over three times the rate of inflation of 3.2 this year)
4. six per cent of the present 412 sitting MPs will be entitled to pensions of $100 000 should they retire or lose their seat Source: "1000 reasons to mute latest Conservative attack on CBS", The Vancouver Sun, Feb 6, 2012

Harper would rather attack the safety net of the poor and middle class people and those of the rest of the public sector pensions than to deal with this travesty. The other parties are equally culpable if they don't start dealing with this rip off of taxpayers.
02:35 PM on 02/10/2012
......just one of the reasons I would and have never voted for his government.... I simply do not trust him.
Health Care, Omnibus bill, OAS, CPP, and more....
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11:42 AM on 02/05/2012
This from the man who was so political - even in high school - that he switched from liberal to conservative beliefs based on one policy he disagreed with. (see wiki)
Harper avoided contact with the real world and real work all his life on a single-minded mission to one day run the country HIS way. He is a devious liar with visions of a knighthood and is likely overburdened by US Think Tanks from above and supported by a strong disdain for everyone else. He knows and likely owes Ezra Levant, (Canada's wannabe Glenn Beck) big time. Other than that, he's a nice guy.
02:24 PM on 02/05/2012
It appears, in Canada, if you're just a smidge to the Right of Marx/Engels, you are promptly labeled a _fas.cist by the Left.
10:54 AM on 02/05/2012
The problem i have is that why would the conservatives bring this up knowing the opposition even with the Sun news media telling us that it a wonderful thing to attack pensions of the poor and middleclass while reducing the taxes on business and the rich. He must be up to something monumentally stupid and wants our attention elswhere I mean i thought he plateaued with the Crime bill or the Fighters that don't fly and have a concern when fully equiped with cold weather not to mention price. Long and short I would be very afraid no party based on the ramblings of a Religious zealot asking us to look over here isn't up to something else over there.
01:28 PM on 02/05/2012
Harper's banking on the economy being in good shape for the next election. Then he's hoping that Canadians will forget or forgive while he points to his right- wing policies as the cause of the revived economy. Let's hope the voters aren't as dumb as he expects.
10:40 AM on 02/05/2012
It's amazing how we have the money to buy warplanes that we don't really need. Build and staff prisons that we don't really need. Watch government officials fly around in very expensive military aircraft - that the rest of us don't really need. BUT we must defer paying out OAS payments in order to ease the burden on the Social Security system. There is no doubt that we are going to face a cash crunch in the future with so many baby boomers set to retire - does that mean we need to make them wait, defer their payments, cut them back OR does it mean that we need a government that worries about making life better for ALL of it's citizens not just the ones that are rich and own businesses. Maybe we need a government that put's its citizens first and spending money on war toys and gulag style prisons last.
Hmmm can't decide........
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Marie Forcier
10:35 AM on 02/05/2012
Didn't anyone tell Harper that their are only so many Wal-Mart GREETER jobs!
10:44 AM on 02/05/2012
Lucky for you that there are a few of them.
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Marie Forcier
11:48 AM on 02/05/2012
Why would I be lucky, or for that matter why would any senior who has to make ends meet by being a Greeter be lucky. More like being unfortunate. There is nothing wrong with being a Greeter the wrong part is the many, many more 65 year olds in Canada will be scrambling for the very few MCJobs that are available and competing with 20 year olds. Most companies are far too willing to show the door to the 65, heck 60 year olds. CPP alone will not cover basic necessities and many seniors can barely cover their realty taxes.
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DirkNeptune
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01:00 PM on 02/05/2012
Judging purely by the number of fans you have, it's obvious that this robotic, easy, witless retort is not up to your usual standard.
10:28 AM on 02/05/2012
Nicolas Sarkozy, France's very own Stephen Harper, upped both the minimum age of retirement and the age of eligibility for receiving pension benefits by two years in 2010. Know what it got him? Weeks of massive protests and labour strikes that literally brought France to its knees.

Is Harper really willing to take that risk, or is it all just talk? Canada needs to call his bluff. Remind him how Sarkozy learned the hard way that sticking it to the middle-class doesn't come cheap. Our economy may be in a fragile state, but unless Harper actually wants to see it completely crippled, it would be wise for him to start looking at other places to make cuts (there's plenty of government pork just waiting to be trimmed: generous Senate salaries, unneeded mega-prisons, $500 million handouts to help Sun News churn out more fawning Tory agitprop).
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DirkNeptune
I love raspberry pie, damn it.
10:11 AM on 02/05/2012
Raising the qualification age of the OAS by two years will save Harper $2 to $3 billion a year.

If he raised the federal corporate tax rate back to 19.5 per cent (It was 28 percent in 2000 - as of January 2012 Harper has slashed it to 15 per cent) it would generate $10 billion in additional revenue.

Did his tax breaks create jobs?

No. There are 1.1 million jobs less in Canada as of December 2011 then there was in October of 2008, just prior to the recession.

Even Bill Gates says tax cuts and job creation are not related.

All these tax breaks do is allow companies to pay out big dividends to their shareholders and give their corporate officers huge bonuses.

I've seen an estimate that his new crime bill will cost us about $9 billion a year on an ongoing basis. Even if it's half than that, scrapping it would still more than offset his OAS cuts.

Everyone who is not rich in the country is his target. He's all about making the inequality gap wider and pushing more money up to his buddies.
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northof49th
09:42 AM on 02/05/2012
Write your MP start the demise of his leadership locally,you can't jump on top of pile and knock it over. Start picking away at the base it will soon tu
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northof49th
09:51 AM on 02/05/2012
The base will soon tumble.
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11:45 AM on 02/05/2012
Fire your MP next election. Fire all of them.
05:47 PM on 02/05/2012
No pension payouts] until age 65 and no way as generous as they are now - Senators should work and serve for FREE
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gravescanada
08:16 AM on 02/05/2012
How can Prime Minister Harper give corporate tax cuts, and then cut services at the same time in the name of fiscal austerity? Morally and ethically challenged is what they are.
10:16 AM on 02/05/2012
Definition of neoliberalism.
07:36 AM on 02/05/2012
Now that Harper has a majority government, he plans on sticking it to Canadians. Telling us we will have to work 2 more years, before we can receive OAS, is just the tip of the iceburg. You can be sure he will be making numerous negative changes to the services and benefits we now receive. We are in big trouble in this country with Harper as the PM.
10:46 AM on 02/05/2012
The Entitlement Society is massive in Canada.
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Lou on Vancouver Island
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10:56 AM on 02/05/2012
And was running huge surpluses under the Liberals. Then came Harper. Red ink is back, and the most vulnerable in the country must pay to keep the rich rich.
06:48 AM on 02/05/2012
He cut taxes for corporations, created a faux religious protection agency and created a scaremongering dishonest crime bill that will add billions - now in the name of saving money he gets to do what he has always wanted to do and made no bones about it before coming to Parliament he wants to hit all those programs he considers to be "entitlement" programs like health care, oap, and more, just watch him. The 60% of us who never voted for this neo-con are now going to pay for the lousey 40% who did, while he remakes Canada in his own image. He is a scary guy and sadly to all those who say they voted for him but would never do it again, too little too late, his record was out there for everyone to see.
06:48 AM on 02/05/2012
Well at least he gave his rich buddies a huge tax decrease to make sure his party gets the money. People deserve to get screwed because they let these rats get into power. Why do they think people got rid of the entire conservative part except for 2 seats a few years ago.
02:42 AM on 02/05/2012
I'm in the U.S.A. and thought I'd see what was happening in Canada via H.P. comments, and I am amazed to read we have many similarities, namely, our dislike for conservatives / Republicans! Apparently, conservative fascist Republicans are the same hypocritical liars no matter what country you live in!
10:28 AM on 02/05/2012
We, like you in the USA , are basically truthful good living folk. This makes us easy prey for con-artist-servatives who say one thing and do another. Next election, we will fire all of them out and go back to being Canadian again for a decade or so until another con artist comes along and scares us. This is the same party that killed the Arrow fighter jet program and bought Bomark missiles from the US. We didn't need an aerospace industry. Now we are buying unproven expensive fighter jets from the US at a time when we probably least need them. Somebody bought used subs from England at a bargain price but it is only a bargain if they work and they don't. That may have been a Liberal government move. Not sure. But realistically it is winter here now and the only thing that really matters is hockey. The rest will have to wait until next election.
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Lou on Vancouver Island
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10:57 AM on 02/05/2012
You should see those subs. They look like something out of Jules Verne and a high school metal shop. Patches over patches.
02:55 PM on 02/05/2012
You are certainly correct about that 4eight5! Con-artist-conservatives really know how to take advantage of well-meaning people who believe their lies, I hope we can fire all of ours this next election as well! Republicans are the exact opposite of what they preach, in other words - hypocrites! I wish our country would adopt your socialistic health care that I've heard many good things about, but we're so backwards here and people are terrified of anything "socialistic"! I'm out west so we'll be lucky if it rains this winter, glad you get to enjoy your winter hockey!
10:48 AM on 02/05/2012
Except that we have very few real conservatives in Canada, certainly none in politics. Just varying degrees of socialist.
03:03 PM on 02/05/2012
And you don't like the socialists? I would have thought they would be more concerned for the welfare of the people than the wealthy?
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12:30 AM on 02/08/2012
Harley, how many times to I have to point out to you that there is no such word as 'conservatives' ... buy a dictionary and have someone read you the definitions.
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02:18 AM on 02/05/2012
It's a silly idea to raise the OAS eligibility age.

The government will merely end up punishing the less well off - including those people with health issues or age-related disability. Which are the people whom the GIS, the OAS and CPP programs were originally designed to assist during their retirement years.

How to NOT get re-elected, 101.

How many retired millionaires should get the OAS or even CPP?

None.

I feel the same should apply for those earning between $50,000. per year and $1,000,000. per year, they are FINE - they don't need it. It's 'mad money' for them.

What should be done of course, is to no longer pay the OAS to retiree's if they make over $50,000./year from all sources, including sales of real estate, etc.

For any years they declare less than that amount on their income tax form, the OAS payments should automatically resume, without requiring any extra effort on their part.

Lets direct our attention towards those who need the assistance, instead of those who don't.

JBS