Quebec MPs Refuse To Accept The Queen's Jubilee Medals

First Posted: 02/ 6/2012 3:25 pm Updated: 02/ 7/2012 12:42 pm

MONTREAL - Not everyone is thrilled that the federal government is spending millions, at a time of deep budget cuts, to celebrate the Queen's diamond jubilee.

As might be predicted, such anti-monarchist sentiment is loudest in Quebec where at least six MPs have returned their Jubilee medals.

One nationalist group even says it's planning counter-celebrations. That's because, according to Mario Beaulieu, the head of Montreal's Societe Saint-Jean-Baptiste, it doesn't care about the Queen's anniversary.

"We're not jubilant, we don't give a royal damn," he said on Monday. "And that reflects the opinion of a great majority of Quebecers... This crazy spending on identity propaganda shows that Quebecers don't have the same priorities as Canadians and don't belong to the same nation."

The nationalist group's anti-monarchy campaign will include conferences by historians as well as an art contest and photo and multimedia displays.

Outside Quebec, the anti-monarchy group Citizens for a Canadian Republic, was equally scathing. It derided what it called a massive, royal PR campaign and a state-funded spectacle. The group likened it to the kind of hero worship associated with discredited regimes.

"This is something you'd expect from the personality cult dynasties of North Korea or Syria, not Canada," said Tom Freda, the group's director, in a statement.

"For our government to spend one penny on the jubilee — or even the queen's birthday and huge portraits — is absurd."

Six Quebec MPs — all four Bloc Quebecois members, and at least two New Democrats — are simply refusing to hand out the Diamond Jubilee medals created for the occasion.

At a time when the government is talking about reorganizing the pension system and slashing department budgets up to 10 per cent, one Bloc MP called the $7.5 million being spent overall on Jubilee celebrations a waste of money.

"I find that to be exaggerated spending and it's unacceptable," Bloc MP Louis Plamondon said in an interview Monday.

Plamondon pointed out that Australia, a fellow Commonwealth member, was not handing out any medals to mark the event.

"And here we are spending $3.5 million on (medals)," Plamondon added. He called it more proof of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's total lack of understanding of Quebec.

At least two Quebec New Democrats, Pierre Nantel and Alain Giguere, are refusing the medals.

Nantel said the Queen is not such a big deal for him. He said he's not against the monarchy but he's fed up with the brand of patriotism the Harper government pushes.

Nantel said the Jubilee medals were discussed in caucus and New Democrat MPs are free to make their own choice about what to do with them. The party's interim leader, Nycole Turmel, also a Quebec MP, said there are different views about how to hand them out.

"I am currently thinking about how best to distribute them in my riding, and most MPs are doing the same," she said in an email to The Canadian Press.

By Peter Rakobowchuk, The Canadian Press

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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
01:36 PM on 02/09/2012
Perhaps, France will send them a nice brie, instead.
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SeeTheFnords
Look out - there's one behind you!
06:16 PM on 02/08/2012
Honestly, I think the refusal of the MPs to participate in the Diamond Jubilee Medal program shows their lack of interest in the citizens who elected them. The medals are designed to be awarded to "Canadian citizen or a permanent resident of Canada... [who has] made a significant contribution to a particular province, territory, region or community within Canada, or an achievement abroad that brings credit to Canada."

If they really don't want to take the opportunity to honour some of their best and brightest citizens, in favour of making a political statement, well - there are many more citizens in other parts of Canada who are deserving of some well-earned recognition of their service.
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gravescanada
08:31 AM on 02/09/2012
We can celebrate those citizens without spending Millions on the Queen of England's Diamond Jubilee. Even the Brits are getting angry at this type of spending in England when fiscal austerity is being touted as the only way to recovery.
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
01:37 PM on 02/09/2012
Why is it that all ethnic groups feel that they should be able to celebrate their heritage, but, when those of British decent do it, it is wrong?
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SeeTheFnords
Look out - there's one behind you!
06:03 PM on 02/08/2012
Here are some facts that are currently missing from this article.

- there are a total of 60,000 medals being awarded
- production cost per medal is less than $60
- the medals are being distributed to the MPs who, in turn, distribute them to citizens in their ridings who have been nominated by their peers as worthy recipients of this honour

For more information on the Diamond Jubilee Medal, look at the official website here:
http://www.gg.ca/document.aspx?id=14301
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
06:51 AM on 02/08/2012
Price tag for Quebecs 400 year anniversary celebrations-100 million
Price tag for Queens diamond jubilee-7.5 million.
Celebrating heritage costs money.
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gravescanada
09:00 AM on 02/09/2012
Its about the timing. As the article states "At a time when the government is talking about reorganizing the pension system and slashing department budgets up to 10 per cent" well in 2008 we had a balanced budget and a surplus. All of Canada is facing cuts to services by the Harper Government, so yours is a false equivalency.
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
01:41 PM on 02/09/2012
Only if you can prove that Quebec's economy was so much better off, at that time, and allowed spending 53 times as much for a single province.
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elatas
50% French and 50% Italian mix
06:35 PM on 02/07/2012
"Outside Quebec, the anti-monarchy group Citizens for a Canadian Republic, was equally scathing."

I hate how HP is always focusing on Quebec making this a bash Quebec forum while there is the same anti-monarchist group outside Quebec.
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
01:41 PM on 02/09/2012
Apples and oranges.
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06:04 PM on 02/07/2012
I love how Quebec wants the rest of Canada to respect their heritage, yet they cannot even return the same courtesy.
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
01:42 PM on 02/09/2012
Exactly!
06:04 PM on 02/07/2012
If you guys want to save money how about leading the way and defer your pensions until age 65. Oops a pig just flew by my window
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Atim-moot Tugayak
Sun News is Dark and Hateful.
05:52 PM on 02/07/2012
The French are welcome to go back to their motherland if they detest Canada so. Sacre bleu.
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maxmtl
Carpe Diem
06:55 PM on 02/07/2012
Go back to school. You need some history teaching.
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
01:45 PM on 02/09/2012
Why? Many Quebecois, cling to ties to a country that "sold" them for a couple of islands off the east coast over 300 years ago.
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feuille derable
La République du Canada
11:06 PM on 02/07/2012
Bow to your queen! I will not. And I AM Canadian!
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
01:45 PM on 02/09/2012
Being born here or acquiring citizenship does not make you a true Canadian.
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05:52 PM on 02/07/2012
Can we for once have a referendum across all of Canada to vote on whether Quebec should stay or be asked please to leave? I'm not a monarchist but I'm certainly not a fan of these sour faced Quebeckers who have no problem taking our money but still keep complaining.
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maxmtl
Carpe Diem
07:59 PM on 02/07/2012
let do it my dear!
05:49 PM on 02/07/2012
3.5 million -----i medal for each mp -----305 ----plus about 60 others -----

3,500,000/ 360 -------$10,000 per medal approx.

really ??? while seniors pensions get cut ???
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elatas
50% French and 50% Italian mix
06:42 PM on 02/07/2012
Thanks. People don't know how to do simple math anymore. $10,000 per medal speaks volume.

I wish the Liberal and NPD parties had leaders so that there'd be discussions about topics such as this in Ottawa. It feels like Canada is becoming a Harperarchy.
07:12 PM on 02/07/2012
If the Libs or NDP were in power they would be giving medals just like the conservative..........
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SeeTheFnords
Look out - there's one behind you!
05:52 PM on 02/08/2012
With 60,000 medals presented, it works out to less than $60 per medal.
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SeeTheFnords
Look out - there's one behind you!
05:51 PM on 02/08/2012
Actually, in the article, it is mentioned in a quote from the NDP leader that medals are given to each MP to distribute to the citizens in their ridings. I looked on the government's website, and after a bit of searching, it appears that 60,000 medals will be awarded.

3,500,000 / 60,000 = 58.33 each

Less than $60 is pretty good for anything struck by the Canadian Mint.
05:55 PM on 02/08/2012
thats a relief ----the only numbers i heard were 365
Rantibus
Cogito, Ergo Rant
05:41 PM on 02/07/2012
So they refused a medal - so what? The commemorative medals are usually only given for DOING SOMETHING and have to have been recommended by others. My grandmother got the Golden Anniversary medal in '02 based on having a page of deeds in various charitable and humanitarian societies - she even started a library in a small village. These MPs were getting them based on being MPs - their deeds, warming a cushion. Perhaps now, they'll go through the recommendations and give these extra medals to those who actually deserve them.
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SeeTheFnords
Look out - there's one behind you!
05:53 PM on 02/08/2012
They are awarded the same way as other commemorative medals - for people doing things.

http://www.gg.ca/document.aspx?id=14301

That's a link to the FAQ about the new medals.
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ProgressiveCDN
A Progressive Moderate
05:29 PM on 02/07/2012
"This crazy spending on identity propaganda shows that Quebecers don't have the same priorities as Canadians and don't belong to the same nation." -- On the contrary, I'm sure MOST Canadians agree with Quebecers that this is a monumental waste of millions of dollars, especially during a time of economic hardship.... Remember, the Liberals almost passed a resolution to scrap the monarchy all together with %55 of the parties delegates voting to scrap it.
05:23 PM on 02/07/2012
Any time any one of the Royal Family comes our way, virtually every single tabloid and magazine at the supermarket checkout counter is full of them.

Do the math. When I read the complaints here about how the money we spend on the Royals can be better spent elsewhere, I ask: the commerce that these folks generate must be on the order of about 1,000 times for each dollar we spend in taxpayer funds to get 'em over here and whatever else it costs us to carry them.

It really is quite a great deal for OUR economy. It is quite a lopsided deal we get out of them if you think about it.

And it's not just tabloid fare; there's all sorts of touristy fallout and other stuff that we benefit from when they come over here.

Not to mention that fact that, in celebrating them, we celebrate the incredible traditions of democracy, the common law, and other things that have descended down from the Mother Country.
05:19 PM on 02/07/2012
I am always amused by calls to end the monarchy in Canada.

I suggest to anyone who has the slightest inclination towards ending the monarchy that they first acquaint themselves with the amending formula of the constitution which requires unanimity to change anything about the monarchy. That means agreement to do so not only by Canada's federal parliament but by each of the 10 provincial assemblies as well.

How likely do you think that is?
05:35 PM on 02/07/2012
50/50 eleven times
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
01:48 PM on 02/09/2012
Not much of a statistician, are you?
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Blodo
Time to build a better world
05:17 PM on 02/07/2012
I have to agree with the Quebec MPs on this one. An utter waste of money. The monarchy is an anachronism that we could safely allow to slip beneath the waves of history.
05:37 PM on 02/07/2012
If it weren't for the Brits, endorsed by the Royals (1812)... we'd all be speaking American (y'all)...
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feuille derable
La République du Canada
11:10 PM on 02/07/2012
We are North American... and we sound a lot more like our neighbors to the south than the brits across an ocean.
Rantibus
Cogito, Ergo Rant
05:37 PM on 02/07/2012
Like the Bloc.
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Blodo
Time to build a better world
08:06 PM on 02/07/2012
Yep, them too.