Larry Miller, Conservative MP, Compares Liberal Support For Long-Gun Registry To Hitler's Policies (VIDEO)

The Huffington Post Canada   First Posted: 02/ 7/2012 3:34 pm Updated: 02/ 8/2012 11:38 am

UPDATE: Conservative MP Larry Miller retracted his comments comparing Liberal support for the Gun Registry to the policies of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis after Question Period Tuesday.

Miller called the references "inappropriate."

His retraction, however, did not satisfy interim Liberal leader Bob Rae or MP Justin Trudeau.

“Anybody who raises the name of Adolf Hitler in a debate always loses … It’s a ludicrous, ridiculous, cheap, horrible comparison,” said Rae after Question Period, according to The Globe and Mail.

Trudeau tweeted that Miller's apology was "weak and insincere" and made it sound like he was apologizing to Hitler.


Justin Trudeau, MP
Weak and insincere apology by Larry Miller. It sounded like he apologized to Hitler for using his name. Didn't apologize to Allan Rock.

As the Tories make the final push to scrap the federal long-gun registry, one Tory MP has compared Liberal support for the database to the policies of Adolf Hitler.

Conservative MP Larry Miller (Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound) made the comparison in the House of Commons on Tuesday.

Miller first drew on former Liberal Senator Sharon Carstairs statement that “the registering of hunting rifles is the first step in the social re-engineering of Canadians,” to link Liberal policy to Nazi social engineering. “Mr speaker, that is what Adolf Hitler tried to do in the 1930s,” Miller said.

“The long-gun registry is at its core solely about an idea that the Liberals of the 90s had that guns are inherently evil and must be taken out of the hands of the general population," he continued. "Again, who does that sound like?”

Miller then went on to liken former Liberal justice minister Alan Rock to Hitler for stating that guns should be given only to police officers and soldiers. See the clip for yourself below.

Also on Tuesday, the Tories moved to limit debate on getting rid of the registry. Government House Leader Peter Van Loan has said he wants the bill passed by mid-February.

The government wants to scrap the registry because it says it is a waste of money, ineffective at improving public safety and preventing crimes and it targets law-abiding gun owners instead of criminals. Getting rid of the registry means getting rid of the information in it, the government has said in defending the move to destroy the data. About 7.1 million non-restricted firearms were registered in the database as of September.

With files from CBC

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  • What does this new bill on the gun registry do?

    We keep hearing about scrapping the long-gun registry, but really what we're talking about is scrapping the requirement for people to register their rifles and shotguns - that's what Bill C-19 aims to do by making amendments to the Criminal Code and Firearms Act. Once passed, people will not have to register their non-restricted or non-prohibited firearms. It also provides for the destruction of existing records in the Canadian Firearms Registry for those firearms. <em>With files from CBC</em>

  • What exactly is the registry?

    It's a centralized database overseen by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police that links firearms with their licensed owners. It contains information about all three types of guns that must be registered - non-restricted, restricted and prohibited. (All firearms must be registered.) To register a firearm, you have to have a licence to possess it.

  • Does the bill make any changes to licensing requirements?

    No. Canadian residents need a licence in order to possess and register a firearm or ammunition and that won't change. There are a couple of different kinds of licences because of various changes to laws and regulations over the years.

  • What are long guns?

    There are three types of guns under Canadian law: non-restricted, restricted and prohibited. Most common long guns - rifles and shotguns - are non-restricted but there are a few exceptions. A sawed-off shotgun, for example, is a prohibited firearm. A handgun is an example of a restricted firearm. Different regulations apply to different classifications of firearms.

  • How many guns are we talking about?

    As of September 2011, there were about 7.8 million registered guns. Of those, 7.1 million are non-restricted firearms.

  • Why does the government want to get rid of the long-gun registry?

    The government says it is wasteful and ineffective at reducing crime and targets law-abiding gun owners instead of criminals, who don't register their firearms.

  • Who wants to keep it?

    Police and victims' groups are big supporters of the registry. Police say the database helps them evaluate a potential safety threat when they pull a vehicle over or are called to a residence. They also say it helps support police investigations because the registry can help determine if a gun was stolen, illegally imported, acquired or manufactured. This year, the RCMP says police agencies accessed it on average more than 17,000 times a day.

  • When will the registry cease to exist?

    The government has passed the legislation and the registry no longer exists. Except for in Quebec, where an ongoing court challenge means the owners must still register their guns in the province.

  • Why does the government want to destroy the records?

    The government is doing this to ensure that no future non-Conservative government can recreate the registry. Public Safety Minister Vic Toews has also made it clear that if any province wants to set up its own registry it would get no help from the federal government. The Conservatives are so fundamentally opposed to the existence of the records, because they say they focus on law-abiding citizens instead of criminals, that they don't want them available for anyone to use.

  • How much does the registry cost?

    The registry cost more than $1 billion to set up in 1995 and the cost was the source of much controversy. Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said on Oct. 25 that the government's best estimate is that it costs about $22 million a year to operate. That's the entire registry, not just the long-gun portion, but he noted most of the guns in the registry are long guns. He said he didn't know how much money scrapping the requirement to register long guns would save the government. Conservative MP Candice Hoeppner says there are also "hidden costs" that are borne by provincial and municipal police agencies to enforce the registry.

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UPDATE: Conservative MP Larry Miller retracted his comments comparing Liberal support for the Gun Registry to the policies of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis after Question Period Tuesday. ...
UPDATE: Conservative MP Larry Miller retracted his comments comparing Liberal support for the Gun Registry to the policies of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis after Question Period Tuesday. ...
 
 
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10:43 AM on 09/01/2012
Larry Miller!
From the look of him he must be related to the Ford family.
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JohnBryansFontaine
Liberal Democrat
01:11 PM on 02/10/2012
When are Conservatives going to admit that Hitler was basically a nationalist and a militarist? Also Hitler's nationalism was identical to his core belief in German/Aryan supremacism.
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colpy
03:25 PM on 02/10/2012
What ARE you talking about??

Yep.....Adolph was a nationalist and a militarist.

So what's your point?
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
02:11 PM on 02/09/2012
Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of N"zi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Naz! Analogies[1][2]) is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Naz!s or Hitl/r approaches 1."[2][3] In other words, Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitl!er and the Nzis.

Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread Reductio ad Hitle5um form.[4] The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Ado1f Hi?ler or the N"zis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. Precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued that overuse of Na7i and Hitl3r comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.[5]
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
11:39 PM on 02/15/2012
You're talking just like Hitler.
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hollace
I told you I was sick
10:49 PM on 02/08/2012
have another cholesteral sandwich guy....it will all be over soon....
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Transitteer
and another thing . . .
09:10 PM on 02/08/2012
Why is it that the Really Dumb ones are neo-Conservatives? And hung like Mickey Mouse to love their guns so much . . . . How do you support Police and oppose the Registry when the Police need it so often?? Just the picture of this guy in his fatigues and gun makes me kringe . . . .
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colpy
02:35 AM on 02/09/2012
Excuse me?

Fatigues??? LOL!!! An orange vest....

And you call Conservatives stupid.

Yeah, right.
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Transitteer
and another thing . . .
01:49 PM on 02/09/2012
you make my point. thanks.
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Kristopher Leang
training to take down the elite
07:14 PM on 02/08/2012
i agree freaking liberal nazis!!! with their obsession with tough on crime, jails, military, tight control of media mouthpieces,.

oh wait thats the conservatives
10:44 AM on 09/01/2012
basically the same thing.
06:37 PM on 02/08/2012
Three words for you Larry: Reductio Ad Hitleram. It's a logical fallacy, you might want to look it up. So embarassed that he's my MP...
05:36 PM on 02/08/2012
Let's see now comparisons to Hitler, well relative to today's political parties....hmmmm Nazis I believe we could classify as ultra right wing conservative......hmmm kinda reminds me of a western entity that merged a few years ago....Just saying it is always interesting how these clowns that operate out of a sense of "entitlement" always want one to believe that they have everyone's best interest at heart, but upon true introspection, if they're capable, they are touting the exact message/beliefs of the monsters that they are portraying the other party to be..
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YankinCanada
Two opposing idealogues walk into a liberal bar...
04:38 PM on 02/08/2012
What's even more shocking is this clod taking his hero's name in vain.
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cameron d
Good Guys Win
04:10 PM on 02/08/2012
This is what happens when you vote for a party supported by some of the dimmest Canadians out there: a Party filled with the dimmest Politicians.
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colpy
02:38 AM on 02/09/2012
Smart enough to destroy the Liberal Party, beat the NDP, and win majority gov't.

That means smarter than you.

:)
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
02:07 PM on 02/09/2012
Smart enough to like through thier teeth and manipulate the law?
Thanks, you`re confusing intelligence with efficency and politics with honest.
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Sofia Champion
The future is now.
11:50 PM on 02/09/2012
I bet you also think Nickelback are a good band because they're famous.
02:30 PM on 02/08/2012
intelligence and conservative can they go together? well new study showed no they can not. You can not be conservative and at the same time claim to be intelligent.
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colpy
02:39 AM on 02/09/2012
This from a guy that obviously flunked grammar in grade school. I love lefty arrogance! :)
11:13 AM on 02/09/2012
Hey colpy I can still write things that can make you unhappy! So can you write in any other language? say something meaningful or say nothing at all! please
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
02:08 PM on 02/09/2012
He`s caling the gun registry Hitlerian.
Go talk to your grandfather about it, child.
02:02 PM on 02/08/2012
harper has a new full time job ---muzzling the blow hards in the back benches
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Robert Lee Harrington
I'd Love To Change The World..
01:50 PM on 02/08/2012
Big Lie:

The Big Lie is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

Later, Joseph Goebbels put forth a slightly different theory which has come to be more commonly associated with the expression "big lie..."

The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie
10:48 AM on 09/01/2012
The Big Lie:it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness.

The best Canadian example I know is, "the Leafs will win the cup!"
Works every time in Toronto.
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Jay from Ottawa
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01:19 PM on 02/08/2012
“The long-gun registry is at its core solely about an idea that the Liberals of the 90s had that guns are inherently evil and must be taken out of the hands of the general population,"

Funny, I don't recall the registry being used to take firearms out of the hands of the general public. It did, however, make one have to do a little leg work to own a firearm so that the lazy jackasses of the world who would want a firearm 'because it's so cool' would be too lazy to actually go through the process of obtaining one.

Here's a reminder: A GUN REGISTRY WILL STILL EXIST, and Canadians are still going to pay for it, it simply won't include long guns and will only include restricted firearms. So if you think this will magically make the registry disappear and allow us to not longer spend a dime on it, then you're wrong, because a restricted firearm registry will still exist.

Whatever, I don't really care much about it, it'll just make getting a rifle easier when I move to the country.
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colpy
01:43 PM on 02/08/2012
"Funny, I don't recall the registry being used to take firearms out of the hands of the general public."

Then you haven't been paying attention. It has happened repeatedly.

Most recently, but not the only time by far:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/06/rcmp-to-seize-more-scary-looking-guns-before-registry-dies/
01:59 PM on 02/08/2012
i see----- so removing the registry prevents guns from being taken away ----

it would be interesting to test ----walk down the street brandishing your rifles ----but dont bet the cops wont take your gun and you along with it
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Jay from Ottawa
sovereignty sale, 1.3T OBO
02:00 PM on 02/08/2012
Nobody is saying that can't own a firearm, just saying that can't own certain specific firearms. Scrapping the long gun registry doesn't mean we're not keeping our restricted firearm registry or modifying our list of prohibited weapons.

Look at the link you sent me ! I don't know why the shotgun is there, it has a full lengh barrel, but look at the other firearms; a assault rifle, extremely short handguns that are good for nothing except concealment, oh and a pistol with a silencer.

I'm all for farmers and hunters keeping their hunting rifles and shotguns hassle free, but there's no rational excuse to own a assault rifle or a handgun with a silencer.

/sarcasm
Oh poor little ol responsbile gun with a silencer owner, won't anybody think of his rights ?
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SamEasy
You really don`t want to know.
01:18 PM on 02/08/2012
Well, we all must agree that Loopie Larry should know all about Hitler, simply because his BOSS carries on like he IS Hitler!!!!