Canada Liberal Party Hijacked By Pro-Lifers?

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First Posted: 02/ 8/2012 4:33 pm Updated: 02/10/2012 9:40 am

OTTAWA - Some federal Liberals fear single-issue pro-lifers are trying to hijack their weakened party.

Their fears have been stoked by the apparent re-emergence of a group calling itself Liberals for Life, which is promoting Trifon Haitas's bid to represent the party in a March 19 byelection in Toronto-Danforth.

The group has issued an "urgent message" to Liberals in the riding, urging them to support Haitas, a Greek-Canadian journalist who formerly ran for the Green party.

"Trifon Haitas is the only candidate who is committed to stop the slaughter of unborn children in Canada," the electronic message states.

The message includes a link to an endorsement of Haitas by Campaign Life Coalition, a national organization opposed to abortion.

The byelection in Toronto-Danforth, a riding just east of downtown Toronto, was necessitated by the death of NDP Leader Jack Layton last August. Liberals are set to nominate their candidate Thursday, with Haitas facing off against advertising executive Grant Gordon.

Liberals for Life spearheaded a move to take over dormant riding associations and nominate pro-life candidates in the late 1980s and early 1990s, when the party was in a weakened state.

The group seemed to disappear after 1992, when Liberals gave their party leader the power to appoint candidates — a move aimed squarely at pre-empting takeover attempts by single-issue groups, although it was eventually used for other purposes.

However, at last month's Liberal convention, delegates expressed concern that conditions are once again ripe for an attempted takeover by single-issue groups, given that the party was reduced to a historic low of 34 seats in last May's election. Party officials estimate Liberal associations are dormant in some 80 ridings across the country and weak in many others.

Haitas said Wednesday that Liberals for Life is not defunct.

"They're still strong. They're alive and doing good work," he said in a phone interview, although he couldn't provide names of organizers.

"Definitely, I am pro-life. I believe in the sanctity of life and I'm right by their side when it comes to that issue."

Haitas denied he's a single-issue candidate, stressing that abortion is only one of many issues of concern to him and voters in Toronto-Danforth. There are currently no legal restrictions on abortion in Canada and Haitas said he respects the Liberal party's position that the debate should not be reopened.

Still, he said: "I, as an individual, have to stay true to my faith ... I grew up in the orthodox Christian faith and there's no way I would turn my back to the beliefs I was brought up with.

"It's an issue that's close to my heart because I have personal experience of that issue."

Haitas said his father's parents disapproved of his mother and urged her to have an abortion when she became pregnant.

"I'm alive today because both my parents are pro-life. My grandparents didn't want me to be born."

Moreover, he said he conceived a child with a woman to whom he was once engaged and she chose to have an abortion, against his wishes.

"I lost a child to abortion. I had no choice in the matter and I feel ashamed that that happened. I've learned from it," said Haitas, who is now married with two young children.

Interim Liberal leader Bob Rae said he was unaware of Haitas' views and had seen no signs of a re-emergence of Liberals for Life or any other single-interest group trying to take over Toronto-Danforth or other ridings. He noted that the leader does still retain the "residual power" to appoint candidates if necessary, with the approval of the party's national executive, but said it's not his preferred route.

"My own view is, I always prefer open nominations, I always prefer people to be able to come forward, express their views and for people to be able to exercise their choice at a riding meeting. I think that's what will happen this time and we'll just have to see what the members decide on Thursday night," he said in an interview.

Toronto MP Carolyn Bennett, chair of the Liberal women's caucus, recalled the attempted riding takeovers in the past and said it's "worrying" to see the abortion issue being raised once again in a nomination meeting.

She pointed out that Haitas's views are contrary to a priority resolution passed at last month's convention, reaffirming women's right to reproductive health services. The resolution noted many publicly funded health institutions refuse to perform abortions and urged the federal government to financially penalize provinces that fail to ensure access.

Bennett also questioned the legality of the name Liberals for Life.

"We will speak to the leader and to the party but I don't think (Liberals for Life) should be able to portray themselves as an official branch of the party, that's for sure," she said in an interview.

Rae maintained the Liberal party has always been pro-choice and he expects all Liberal MPs to toe that line.

"There's not going to be any change and I expect every member of the caucus to support the position that the caucus and the party, frankly, has always taken."

However, there has been a relatively strong contingent of pro-life Liberals in the caucus for decades and the party has typically allowed them to vote according to their consciences on abortion questions.

An attempt by former leader Michael Ignatieff to flush out the Harper government on its refusal to fund abortions in poor countries ended up backfiring in 2010, with three Liberals voting against their party's own motion and 13, mostly pro-life Liberal MPs, failing to show up for the vote.

Toronto MP Jim Karygiannis, one of the few remaining pro-life Liberals after last May's election, said he's given some advice to Haitas about contesting the nomination. But he said he knows nothing about any revival of Liberals for Life and questioned how useful such an endorsement would be in a riding accustomed to the pro-choice stance of Layton.

"As far as I know, they don't exist," he said.

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04:26 PM on 02/10/2012
Haitas did not receive the nomination for the Toronto riding in question. The candidate that will be running is Grant Gordon a resident of the area and in my opinion the best choice. Liberal for Life will not get a foothold in my party!!!
06:43 PM on 02/09/2012
On issues like this where anti-choice radicals are trying to take over the party they need to set a firm pro-choice position to be a member of the party and to run for it.

Up to and including throwing out of caucus the one remaining anti-abortionist MP Jim Karygiannis and to either get someone new for this riding or to just not run a candidate if it's too late to replace him.
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GOP Motto: If you can't beat em cheat em.
12:47 PM on 02/09/2012
I love the parliamentary Democracies because elections are more swift and if a elected official is not doing their job and is so unpopular, you can call for new elections. The US tends to do everything differently from the rest of the world, and look where we are? What we spend in elections could easily pay off our national debt.
11:36 AM on 02/09/2012
What a pathetic attempt to grasp at straws. If the Libs adopt this line of thinking they are signing their own death warrant.

And a little message to Haitas and those who support mandatory prolife legislation:

We are Legion.
We do not Forgive.
We do not Forget.
Expect Us.
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Jay from Ottawa
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10:27 AM on 02/09/2012
Wow, well this would certainly put the Liberals six feet under.

"Haitas said he respects the Liberal party's position that the debate should not be reopened."

That's a bold face lie, because the electronic message this group is spamming about like a vengeful autocaller mentions three things; Haitas, pro-life, Liberal"

They wouldn't stick the 'pro-life' in there if his intentions are to respect the liberal position and never reopening the issue.

What a croc.
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10:00 AM on 02/09/2012
"I'm alive today because both my parents are pro-life. My grandparents didn't want me to be born."
Grandparents cannot force an abortion in a pro-choice scenario, and your mom made a CHOICE which is why you are here today.
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
09:52 AM on 02/09/2012
Maybe the Liberals should have this type of nomination process???:

"...On the constituency level, potential candidates have complained of undemocratic treatment and “smear” campaigns against non-Harper-endorsed contenders. Former Conservative MP Inky Mark recently sent the following letter to Manitoba newspapers, alleging there was no democracy in the riding of Dauphin-Swan River-Marquette: “The Conservative Party nomination process again is a sham. There was no real open nomination to elect a real representative for the membership in the riding. For the second time Bob Sopuck has avoided an open and fair nomination process … to represent the party in the next general election. Brian Chita, current president of the riding is only a rubber stamp for the party. When will the 700 members of the Conservative Party in the riding get to choose their own representative? One must ask the question: What value is there having a membership in a party that doesn’t respects it’s membership? This lack of democracy at the local level is wrong. It has taken western society 700 years to take the power away from the crown and put it in the hands of the commoner. Today we have a system where the MP is appointed by the leader of the party, not the members of the party …”

http://whystopharper.blogspot.com/

Discuss among yourselves.
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07:14 AM on 02/09/2012
A little bit ironic how the sentiment over a conservative backbencher pushing a private member's bill to define when life starts was all "See! Look! Harper's hidden agenda!" despite Harper continually saying that the debate is closed, and that he doesn't endorse a renewed debate on abortion.

Yet when the pro-life element starts slipping into the Liberal party it's all "Oh, these are not true Liberals!" Would almost seem like a double standard if not for the reality that religion is the main driving force behind the sentiment in the first place, and unfortunately still has a grip in Canadian politics. Thankfully the grip is pretty paltry and weak in Canada, as opposed to the stranglehold it has in the USA.
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
09:19 AM on 02/09/2012
"...Their fears have been stoked by the apparent re-emergence of a group calling itself Liberals for Life, which is promoting Trifon Haitas's bid to represent the party in a March 19 by-election in Toronto-Danforth...".

They are, at most, a fringe element (Toronto MP Carolyn Bennett, chair of the Liberal women's caucus even "...questioned the legality of the name Liberals for Life...") He is not elected, un-like PC MP Woodsworth and can't bring a private members bill into the house.

This was Jack Layton's riding, the Liberals don't have a prayer of winning it, esp. if this guy wins the nomination. This guy got his 15 minutes of fame and a month from now we won't even remember his name. It is hardly the "pro-life" element. On the other hand, Harper doesn't let anything into the media that he isn't seriously contemplating. So we have every right to believe he has a hidden agenda. If it walks like a duck...
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10:23 AM on 02/09/2012
some random person running in a riding he surely won't win claiming to be pro-life is not indicative of the actual Liberal Party of Canada. Unlike the backbencher who shares the views of a majority of his caucus in the Conservative Party. The only reason they won't reopen the debate is because King Harper has muzzled them... and rightfully so.
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05:41 AM on 02/09/2012
The day the Liberals support this kind of crap..............is the day they die as a Party
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hollace
I told you I was sick
02:00 AM on 02/09/2012
It's always amazing..Men too old to fight want to start wars,,and women too old to haave kids waant to turn younger women into human crock pots..... I didn't live through the fifties to return to it...
01:54 AM on 02/09/2012
worst headline writer ever?
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
09:24 AM on 02/09/2012
It should have read: "Wannabe Politician, Desperate for Attention Will Try Anything to Get Nominated"
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10:31 AM on 02/09/2012
no kidding.
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hollace
I told you I was sick
01:41 AM on 02/09/2012
.hope all their voters are too pregnant to get out for the next election....
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Warpde
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12:18 AM on 02/09/2012
I'm neither pro-choice or pro-life.
I'm more of a pro-let people make their own decision.

So, I guess I lean both ways.
12:09 PM on 02/09/2012
Actually, that is pro-choice. Embrace it.
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12:03 AM on 02/09/2012
I cannot stand these people who expect to get elected on these fringe issues!
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
11:29 PM on 02/08/2012
Any Liberal that runs on this plank can stuff their chances of getting re-elected in this country.