Gary Webster, TTC Manager, Fired

Gary Webster

The Huffington Post Canada   First Posted: 02/21/2012 5:24 pm Updated: 02/21/2012 9:46 pm

The battle between Toronto mayor Rob Ford and the city's transit chief has reportedly ended with Gary Webster being fired.

His dismissal comes on the heels of publicly resisting the mayor's bid to construct subway lines on key Toronto routes, such as Eglinton and Sheppard Aves.

Instead, the Toronto Transit Commission's general manager had championed above-ground routes.

The ongoing public feud culminated Tuesday with a closed-door meeting of the TTC's nine commissioners -- five of them reportedly Ford allies.

The resolution to sack Webster passed by a vote of 5-4.

"This was not how I expected this to end — certainly not how I wanted it to end," Webster told CBC News after the meeting. "But clearly the choice has been made to replace me as chief general manager and I accept that."

Ironically, just nine days earlier, Toronto city council seemed to side with Webster's vision of urban transit -- voting 25 to 18 in favour of light rail over Ford's subway plan.

After Tuesday's meeting, TTC chair and staunch Webster supporter Karen Stintz thanked her colleague for his year of service.

Hours before the pivotal vote, she had told reporters Webster didn't deserve to be fired.

"At the meeting of council, the general manager gave his professional advice to council; council chose to accept that advice and now we are presented with a special meeting of the commission to potentially replace him," she said.

Stintz also warned that firing Webster could cost the city some half a million dollars in severance.

“There is no cause to fire Gary Webster," she told the National Post. "So if we wish to have a replacement before his contract ends, we need to pay him out."

Not only that, but reports suggest replacing the 35-year TTC veteran will be no easy task.

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty also weighed in on the transit spat before the meeting, telling The Canadian Press the "time for talk is coming close to an end".

Tuesday's vote went along predictable lines. Ford allies Norm Kelly, Cesar Palacio, Vince Crisanti, Frank DiGiorgio and Denzil Minnan-Wong voted to dismiss Webster 'without cause'.

Stintz, along with commissioners Maria Augimeri, Peter Milczyn, and John Parker voted against the proposal.

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12:56 PM on 02/22/2012
Just a reminder to all ! TTC stands for TAKE THE CAR ! I suggest remove all perks for city workers,and you will save More than enough money to build new subways!
01:05 PM on 02/22/2012
Really? Golly gee whilackers, those guys at KPMG are a bunch of incompetents, aren't they? They could find only 10-15 million in waste, and now you're saying that **only** in perks for city workers we could find **a thousand times** that amount?
02:28 PM on 02/28/2012
Not to mention that we had to pay 3 million for that "study".
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02:21 PM on 02/22/2012
Perks. Like dental? Family health benefits? Most benefits have been scaled back in successive contract neogtiations and the union has offered a no pay increase to protect the benefits that they have.

I don't own a car. I suppose its a miracle that I get to work everyday, on time. Funnily enough, most of the executives in my company drive and are frewquently late. Take The Car stands for egotistical self-importance and some sort of vanity that I've never understood. If, by conservative estimate 50% of TTC users have a drivers license, it means the only thing that separates those that drive to work and those that take the TTC is the cost of driving in. I've never understood why driving equates to a certain sense of self-importance. If everyone is doing it, why does it make you so special?
10:24 AM on 02/22/2012
Ford should just be more specific. Yeah, Webster is experienced on the whole transit management thing, but he lacks on the "being the Mayor's mouthpiece" aspect of his job.
09:51 AM on 02/22/2012
The TTC has a culture that does not appreciate taxpayers and riders.
Chair Stintz fosters this and does not understand the problems of TTC users.
Imagine standing alongside a TTC stop and watch full buses pass you by during winter and wet weather.
Only then do you know that the subways are the only solution for both road users and commuters.

Gary Webster failed.
He failed miserably in his responsibilities.
There should be no compensation.
We should stop this nonsense - he is fired. Fired. Tell him to "Go home".
10:08 AM on 02/22/2012
There is a fully funded plan for LRT.
Do you have a fully funded plan for subways? If you do, give a call to the mayors, they need help right now.
11:11 AM on 02/22/2012
If you say so Rob, or is it Doug.
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06:56 AM on 02/22/2012
Subways are better long term. Pay now or pay more later.

Love the fact this guy got turfed. That's accountability.
08:08 AM on 02/22/2012
Pay now? Gee, if you have the funds, give Ford a call, he could surely use it...
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09:50 AM on 02/22/2012
Just needs to fire a few more of those high priced nobodies to get the shovel in the ground.
09:35 AM on 02/22/2012
Did you send in your pennies?
06:43 AM on 02/22/2012
I like how everyone is a transit expert.
01:06 PM on 02/22/2012
That's a good thing, Ford would get mad at us if we were experts
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Good to know
12:39 AM on 02/22/2012
This whole Ford episode reads like a sit-com.
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07:52 AM on 02/22/2012
a badly-written one starring Al Waxman as Ford; and Bruno Gerusi as Webster.
12:22 AM on 02/22/2012
i always figured if you fired someone without cause they could sue you or be entitled to a very generous financial package. I find the mayor's behaviour childish.
08:09 AM on 02/22/2012
Respect for Taxpayers!
09:36 AM on 02/22/2012
Childish, is an understatement.
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11:25 PM on 02/21/2012
Hey, anyone got any transit executives with 35 years experience lying around? We could really use one. Nah, let's just hire some private sector guy who will run the TTC "like a business" and "find efficiencies." The we can find some "third party contractors" to take over the "operational side" of the business and find a "pot of gold" at the "end of a rainbow" to make the capital problem go away.
12:44 AM on 02/22/2012
Thirty-five years of experience doesn't equate to expertise. In any case it should have told him that publicly disagreeing with your political masters leads to only one conclusion, your ouster. No politician, regardless of stripe is going to let a bureaucrat dictate to them publicly.
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06:59 AM on 02/22/2012
Ford's experience and expertise is? (extreme jaw flapping isn't expertise)

If 35 years of experience doesn't equate to expertise, Toronto won't have to pay him for wrongful dismissal... I'll bet they have to pay... a lot. I'll also bet that Webster explained, discussed and disagreed behind closed doors long before he was called on to give his findings at a public meeting. Politicians often ignore advice from bureaucrats and it's actually very common for senior management to give advice and information politicians don't want to hear... It's their job to give the FACTS and as a taxpayer, I'm glad they do. This wasn't a case of a bureaucrat disagreeing with a politician, it was a case of the facts and numbers disagreeing with a politician and Webster was just the bearer of bad news gathered from multiple city sources.
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07:56 AM on 02/22/2012
care to explain the logic of your first sentence? It does seem to be contrary to facts, as Webster is recognized as an expert; and 35 years experience probably lends some weight to his opinion compared to that of Ford. Sure, if it comes to wife-beating; slapping fish out of the Don during spawning runs; or leeching off the old man's fortune, Rob is my bet for expertise. Transit, especially in GTO, he's not the guy.
12:42 PM on 02/22/2012
"Hey, anyone got any transit executives with 35 years experience lying around?"
It depends, experience on what? Fudging reports to make things that aren't viable look viable? No, I haven't got anyone like that.
11:20 PM on 02/21/2012
Let's start a recall petition, then pass a law to enforce it. We can't wait to get rid of them, the brothers Ford.
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09:03 AM on 02/22/2012
Can we do a reverse recall for Gary Webster?
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10:42 PM on 02/21/2012
Ford was ELECTED by the people of Toronto to build subways. The GM should obey the mayor because that's what people who voted have decided. Average Joe had enough brain to figure out subways are the only ways to solve the commute in Toronto. The argument that it is expensive does not fly. In principle: there will never be enough money for anything ..is like one will never be prepared to have a child but still …
If some Bozos in some Council are clearly non-rational, driven by politics only, and worse, ignoring the will of the majority then this is another issue. As GM he should have known better
10:53 PM on 02/21/2012
So, what taxes would you pay to fund the subway? Inner-city tolls? The vehicle registration tax back?
11:12 PM on 02/21/2012
I don’t think it’s really a money issue here. It’s how one manages the money : Example : It took 3 ½ years to add an extra line of traffic on Hwy 7 over a few kilometers only in an NON-populated area. I could have done it myself with a plastic toy shovel on weeks ends only as a hobby. The public servant in Toronto/ GTA (including TTC) is over grossly paid and is a disgrace to efficiency. What is needed it's a will to change, NOT more money.
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11:21 PM on 02/21/2012
That's not how our municipal system works. We elect a Mayor to lead council, but he has no decision making power without it. Municipal employees and executives are not hired to obey, they are hired to research the policies as suggested by council and provide their expert opinion on decisions before council as a whole. And municipal employees are not beholden to voters. They are beholden to rational metric based analyses of council policy proposals and decisions as decided in council meetings. The Mayor has a mandate to bring his platform to council for decision. "As GM he should have known better." What? He was doing his job like many managers before him and currently in other divisions in the city.

As for your "he was voted in to build subways" argument, if he was building subways I would agree with you. He is not. His plan is to spend an extra 2 billion dollars to bury an LRT line underground (sub, but not a subway) that could be used to fund the sheppard extention he is currently unable to generate revenue for.

Your ignoraaance on all issues is astounding.
12:00 AM on 02/22/2012
If that's not how our municipal system works, then clearly is totaly dysfunctional. You might be very eloquent in this system but to not avail I’m afraid … it’s just idle rhetoric . Sadly, this is indeed the face of our municipal system.. a huge waste and idle talking.
About ignorance : The fact that you are fluent in Ancient Greek (and therefore NOT ignorant) is not going to help you understanding Lagrange theorem .
01:04 AM on 02/22/2012
City employees are beholding to their employers, the residents of the city their elected representatives. City employees should give their best recommendatios when asked for and then, as has been the case for hundreds of years in the civil service, follow the directions of their political masters.

You assumption that anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant is ignorant.
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10:26 PM on 02/21/2012
Anyone who saw him storm out on the press when he did not loose any weight last week gets a glimpse of the way he handles himself when he is angry, like a 5 year old.
10:40 PM on 02/21/2012
I know a few 5 year olds who have better manners than Mr. Ford.
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10:19 PM on 02/21/2012
I'm so glad Toronto and not Calgary has this clown as a mayor,stay in the east !
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09:54 PM on 02/21/2012
Hey, Huffpo? You did't take my comment from 9:14pm and use it for a banner, did you? If so it