Omnibus Crime Bill: Tory Bill Would Make Canada More Dangerous, Victims' Advocate, Judges Say

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First Posted: 02/23/2012 1:02 pm Updated: 02/23/2012 5:40 pm

OTTAWA - A group including a victims' advocate, two retired judges and a former Conservative MP say Canadians will be more fearful and less safe five years from now under criminal justice changes being made by the Harper government.

"I think fear is at the basis of much of the government's work here," said David Daubney, former chair of the House of Commons justice committee under the Mulroney Conservatives in the mid-1980s.

"What it's going to do, unfortunately, is make Canadians more fearful and less safe ... and it's all being done in the name of victims," he told a news conference Thursday.

Daubney spent the last two decades working for Justice Canada, most recently until his retirement last year as the federal co-ordinator of sentencing reform.

Steve Sullivan, the former federal ombudsman for victims of crime, joined Daubney on Parliament Hill in saying victims seldom feel they find justice in the courts, and that won't change with tough new sentences under Bill C-10.

"It's being sold as a bill that's going to benefit victims of crime," Sullivan said. "In fact, we're concerned it's going to be the opposite."

Their comments came as a massive crime bill that includes nine separate pieces of legislation works its way through the Conservative-dominated Senate.

A Senate committee was hearing from some of those crime victims in an adjacent parliamentary building Thursday, and the emotional gut wallop of their testimony helps illustrate the popular appeal of the Conservative crime agenda.

Sandra Dion, a Quebec police officer who was brutally assaulted in 2002 by a mentally ill sex offender, told the Senate justice committee that the legislation represents "the dawn of a new era."

Dion, flanked by two other sexual assault victims, spoke of "the beginning of the pendulum swinging back and finding the balance between the rights of victims and the rights of offenders."

But advocates with a broader view of the criminal landscape argue these traumatized and well-meaning women will not find salvation in tough-on-crime policies.

Provincial Crown prosecutors say their caseload is already at the breaking point and they'll be overwhelmed by the new laws, said Sullivan, meaning more charges are stayed and more plea bargains on lesser charges.

"That's not an agenda that benefits victims of crime who turn to the system for justice," argued the former Stephen Harper appointee.

The prime minister, speaking Thursday in Iqaluit, maintained his majority government has been given the green light to act.

"We're acting on a clear mandate of the people and I think people expect that we will make sure that society and victims do not bear all the costs of crime in this country," Harper said in response to a question about provincial and territorial costs associated with Bill C-10.

But cost and effectiveness are the heart of the critique of so-called "tough-on-crime" policies.

Barry Stuart, the retired chief judge of the Yukon Territorial Court, said judges and the public must remember that every person jailed for a year costs the public purse $100,000 — money he says could be better spent on rehabilitation, education, poverty reduction or health care.

"I'm a judge. I have to make my decisions on the best evidence," said Stuart. "I haven't seen the best evidence for spending this incredible amount of money on something we know doesn't work."

In fact, said Stuart, "we spend more best-evidence testing on what military plane we're going to buy than we do on this huge expenditure that's going to affect every community and every street."

"I'd like the same test applied to the justice system."

In the absence of cost-benefit analysis, crime policies are based on "gut feeling," said Sullivan.

It's a powerful driver.

At the Senate committee, witness Diane Tremblay, another victim of violence who supports the new tougher sentences, was asked by a Liberal senator what flaw she saw in the justice system in her sad experience.

"I wasn't heard by the court, I wasn't believed — not until there was another victim," said Tremblay, whose rapist received a two-year conditional sentence.

She argued that if her rapist hadn't been given a conditional sentence, his next victim would not have happened.

It's a compelling story, but those who deal continually with offenders say it misses the key point. Unless we lock up all offenders for life, they will emerge back into society. Longer sentences don't result in better citizens coming out the other end. The reverse is true.

"Five years from now we're going to have a lot of people coming back from crowded jails without being rehabilitated, and coming back into communities ... that aren't going to want them because they're going to be worse than when we sent them off," said retired judge Stuart.

Added Don Bayne of the Canadian Criminal Lawyers' Association: "The tragedy here is this is proven failed policy."

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  • Key Measures In Tory Crime Bill

    The bill, known as the Safe Streets and Communities Act, includes the following measures: <em>With files from The Canadian Press</em> (CP/Alamy)

  • Child Sex Offences

    Heftier penalties for sexual offences against children. The bill also creates two new offences aimed at conduct that could facilitate or enable the commission of a sexual offence against a child. (MANAN VATSYAYANA/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Drugs

    Tougher sentences for the production and possession of illicit drugs for the purposes of trafficking. (NICOLAS ASFOURI/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Violent And Young Offenders

    Tougher penalties for violent and repeat young offenders. (JOHN MACDOUGALL/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Conditional Sentences

    An end to the use of conditional sentences, or house arrest, for serious and violent crimes (GEOFF ROBINS/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Parole Hearings

    Allowing victims to participate in parole hearings. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Adrian Wyld)

  • Pardons

    Extending ineligibility periods for applications for pardons to five years from three for summary-conviction offences and to 10 years from five for indictable offences. (Flickr: haven't the slightest)

  • Transferring Canadian Offenders

    Expanding the criteria that the public safety minister can consider when deciding whether to allow the transfer of a Canadian offender back to Canada to serve a sentence. (JOEL ROBINE/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Terror Victims

    Allowing terrorism victims to sue terrorists and their supporters, including listed foreign states, for losses or damages resulting from an act of terrorism committed anywhere in the world.(STRDEL/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Human Trafficking

    Measures to prevent human trafficking and exploitation. (LOUISA GOULIAMAKI/AFP/Getty Images)

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09:38 AM on 02/24/2012
Why is a senate committee taking input from victims other than to sensationalize the topic? I'm not saying that these people weren't brutalized but rather that the fact that were brutalized is exactly why they shouldn't be involved here. The same way that a cop or judge or lawyer with a personal connection doesn't get that case. It's human nature for driver there to be geared towards revenge and if you said that the bill includes a mandatory punishment of skinning them alive with a carrot peeler you'd be able to find several victims of heinous crimes on board for that as well I'm sure. And on a personal level that's fair enough but deciding on a national bill should be left to a clear and rational intellectual process not sensational victim impact statements.
11:06 PM on 02/23/2012
Why would Haper listen to judges. He listens to god. And god says build those prisons and fill them fast. There's no hope he'll change his mind. Every single police chief in the country wanted the long gu registry to remain but who were they to tell our lord Harper? God knows Harper will do what harper's god wants. Of course that isn't what Christians of the run of the mill want. They want to save taxes and look after the poor and there are a lot of poor we can't help because Harper spent the surplus the Martin gov left and now he has to have new ships and jets and army vehicles and prisons. The jets don't work and the prisons won't work. Hopefully the ships won't sink.
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okgranny
Egalitarian by birth
11:36 AM on 02/24/2012
I trust the judges infinitely more than I would ever trust a politician.
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samseed
We're here for a good time, not a long time
02:02 PM on 02/24/2012
At this point, I trust judges more than politicians. But if we move to a privatized prison industry, I will not trust judges at all. In the US, it has been proven that some Judges are taking money from Private Prisons to keep the convicts coming, with stiff sentences for minimal crime if any.
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Another Pesky Canadian
Talk - action = 0
10:54 PM on 02/23/2012
Dear "group including a victims' advocate, two retired judges and a former Conservative MP": why do you insist on saying things Our Fearless Leader doesn't want to hear?

Are you not grateful that a Glorious New Golden Age is dawning in your Home and Native Land?
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gx5000
Life's too short, be happy..
10:42 AM on 02/24/2012
You're probably only pesky to the State....

Nice comment ;-)
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agsterino
Less stuff . . . more meaning
09:01 PM on 02/23/2012
Letter part 2
Yes, inmates can be educated in prison, but why educate people how to steal better, defraud better, etc. Yes, it would help with social networking with worse offenders (if you don't come in a criminal with skills, prison will educate you to be a higher skilled criminal)and yes, it would allow them and opportunity to be arrested again and return to prison with more experience to teach others more skills, but then the judges and law enforcement would be overworked. Yes, then we could get more tax from overtime or employing more judges and law enforcement, but what if people twig onto the fact that more could become pressured, threatened and influenced by a higher rung of criminals that probably run much of the prison system anyway. Yes, the pharmacutical industry and the alcohol industry will have to rev up the pressure and spend much more money lobbying not to legalize pot (legal marijuana will cut heavily into their profits). Yes, border guards won't have as much fun tryng to control a vast criminal empire if pot was legalized, but less pressure to turn a blind eye, not to mention the risk of being caught. Please border guards, save us from an out of touch group of people who feel they need to be subservient to an oppressive regime that is already rife with private prisons making a few folks very very wealthy, and the pharmacutical industry, and the alcohol industry, cotton industry (hemp) etc.
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agsterino
Less stuff . . . more meaning
08:56 PM on 02/23/2012
Letter to border officials part one:
Please stop the folks who have interests in private prisons from coming into Canada to influence folks. Yes, it is true that with private prisons we could have an extremely cheap labour force that could make some investors rich, but they will just store their money offshore anyway. Yes, there could be huge employment opportunities for building and mainaining new prisons, but again, the majority of the profits go to people at the top or in kickbacks and the employees don't get paid all that well. Yes, they could improve their income with smuggling things in or out of the prisons, but that income is not reported and taxed either. Yes, it would be a good idea to own the prisons and fill them with people who use or grow a little pot because they are much easier to handle than the murderers, gang members and other violent folks, but if you tax them rather than imprison them, more money for government to spend on roads and other infrastructure.
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The Canadian
Stop Harper
06:22 PM on 02/23/2012
The crime bill is designed to fill the privatized prison system that Harper is hoping to establish. It is a huge industry in the USA and their lobbyists have been working hard for years to get a something similar in Canada.

Read about the sickening future Harper wants for Canadians here:
http://www.prairiedogmag.com/archive/?id=467

and here: http://www.lawyersweekly.ca/index.php?section=article&articleid=1573

More links:

http://members.shaw.ca/DavidCharbonneau/kdn11/prison_labour.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/07/19/prison-costs-canada-harper_n_902322.html

Harper must be resisted by Canadians. He simply does not have the well being of Canada in mind. And even a lot of people who voted for Harper are probably regretting it, because they thought they were voting for a good financial manager (a lie, by the way) and not for a total makeover of our political and social systems to suit only Harper's base of voters.
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DirkNeptune
I love raspberry pie, damn it.
07:15 PM on 02/23/2012
Thanks for the links.

They reinforce just how screwed we are with Harper at the helm. I doubt we'll ever recover from the damage he's done and will continue to do over the next three years.
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gx5000
Life's too short, be happy..
10:43 AM on 02/24/2012
Life is a voyage, not a destination, oh please, NOT THAT DESTINATION !

Cheers !
03:06 PM on 02/23/2012
LOCK UP ALL EVARYONE.

I get $2.50 per day per inmate don'tcha know. I have a new luxury yacht to pay for.