Oil Sands: Dalton McGuinty Dismisses Alberta Premier's Call To Defend Development

First Posted: 02/27/2012 11:36 am Updated: 02/29/2012 10:39 am

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Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty is rejecting calls from his Alberta counterpart to do more to publicly defend the oil sands. (CP)

TORONTO - Alberta Premier Alison Redford says Ontario counterpart Dalton McGuinty is being simplistic for suggesting a booming oilsands is bad news for Ontario.

Redford disputed McGuinty's comments Monday that a strong oilsands industry means a high Canadian dollar, which hurts Ontario's wellspring manufacturing and export sectors.

"This is a false paradigm," Redford said in a conference call from Chicago, where she is meeting with business leaders.

"We know how the value of the dollar works. It's in relation to an overall national economy. The reason the Canadian dollar is high is partly because the United States has been going through some economic difficulties.

"It's a very simplistic approach."

Redford also said the remarks caught her by surprise because McGuinty had not raised the issue previously.

Earlier Monday, McGuinty rejected calls from Redford for him to do more to publicly defend the oilsands. He said Ontario would prefer a lower dollar over a growing oil and gas industry in Western Canada.

"The only reason the dollar is high, it’s a petro dollar, driven by the global demand for oil and gas to be sourced in Western Canada," McGuinty said.

"If I had my preferences as to whether we have a rapidly growing oil and gas sector in the West or a lower dollar benefiting Ontario, I stand with the lower dollar."

During the weekend, Redford called on Ontario and Quebec to speak out in favour of the oilsands and the Keystone pipeline linking Canada to Texas. She said it's not enough for her to talk about the importance of the resource.

Since becoming Alberta's premier almost five months ago, she has also urged the provinces, territories, and the federal government to work as one to better market natural resources abroad.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has said he wants more details.

Redford said that despite McGuinty's concerns, she'll continue to pursue the plan.

"(I'm) a little disappointed, but we'll carry on."

She pointed out that McGuinty's remarks clash with a study by the Canadian Energy Research Institute, which says Ontario enjoys the lion's share of oilsands benefits outside Alberta.

The Calgary-based think-tank suggests the oilsands will create $63 billion in economic spinoffs in Ontario and create 65,000 jobs over 25 years. It also points to smaller economic benefits for and thousands of jobs created in British Columbia and Quebec.

More than 350 Ontario-based companies are suppliers to the oilsands, according to the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers.

However, any oilsands benefits to Ontario are more than offset by the soaring loonie, which went from 63 cents when his government was first elected in 2003 to hovering around parity with the U.S. dollar, said McGuinty.

"That represents about a 50 per cent increase in the value of the dollar, and that has knocked the wind out of exporters and manufacturing in particular," he said.

"I cannot believe that any success that we might enjoy here in Ontario (from the oilsands) is greater than the detriment that we are experiencing as a result of the high dollar."

Ontario's Progressive Conservatives called the oilsands a "national treasure" and said McGuinty should stop blaming other provinces for the fact his government's spending created a $16-billion deficit.

"We’ve got a jobs crisis in our province, and calling the oilsands an embarrassment as Dalton McGuinty’s government has done is wrong," said Opposition Leader Tim Hudak.

"Let’s support it. Let’s create jobs."

The federal government helps fund the oilsands and energy projects in other provinces such as Newfoundland and Labrador, but won't provide financial help for Ontario's move into wind and solar power, said provincial Energy Minister Chris Bentley.

"It’s long been our observation that federal governments over the years have been quite intent on investing in power projects around the country," said Bentley.

"We have launched a very ambitious move to clean, green energy, but we have not sensed the same financial support from the federal government for many years."

Ontario plans to turn off the last of its coal-fired electrical generating stations in 2014, but the Liberal government has come under fire for promising generous guaranteed returns to wind and solar power producers, especially when demand for electricity is falling.

— With files from Dean Bennett in Edmonton

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04:48 PM on 02/29/2012
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There are many criticisms, of the oil sands and we must put it in perspective. We should say that side benefits,and in tax income distributed throughout the country it does many canadiand
across the country benefit. However,it is an albertan resource,and it is really their say what
they want to do with it? Certainly they will listen, but they have proposed developing this resource as a benefit for their province,which is their right? The petro dollar is a problem,
especially since large corporations in the future will be exporting world wide not only here but
asia and south america,that is the trend. So the problem is not just canadian...what are the value of those other currencies? I understand the problems in eastern canada,and i'm sure the west does...but they are not likely to put offf their development..a high dollar has its high and low points
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10:22 AM on 02/29/2012
Lets not kid ourselves. TransCanada said it clearly "The Calgary-based pipeline company (TSX:TRP) said Monday the Cushing, Okla., to Gulf Coast leg — meant to relieve a supply glut of oil in the middle of the U.S. and boost prices and producers' bottom lines"
The key section is "boost prices and producers' bottom lines". Yes, it means the price of oil will go UP if the pipeline is extended. Nothing about the Tar Sands helps the people of Canada. It makes a small group of very wealthy people wealthier, but Canada as a nation will reap none of the benefits, but carry the burden of the higher dollar. With a lower dollar, our manufactured goods are much more attractive and makes us a better place for manufacturing. But its all about strengthening big oil.
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Kenneth T Tellis
09:13 AM on 02/29/2012
Why is everyone paying attention to what premier Dalton McGuilty says about Alberta's Tar Sands? I for one treat anyting that Dalton says as a JOKE, because he is more comedian than politician. But there is room for him on the unemployment line, where he really belongs.
11:31 AM on 02/28/2012
Bad move McGuinty.

Canada needs the oil sands, needs the energy. Without it we are even more dependent on over seas oil supplies.
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09:29 AM on 02/28/2012
NO, Nobel Prize here?
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07:06 PM on 02/27/2012
Who in their right mind would put any stock in Dalton McGuinty's economic assesments.
The guy holding Ontario's purse strings for the last 10 years had to hire an consultant to tell him where the money went.
Commodities are high.
So is the dollar.
It's always been this way.
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05:56 PM on 02/27/2012
We do have lot of winds, you know better then anybody?
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05:52 PM on 02/27/2012
Too bad we do not have oil sands in Ontario, Dalton?
EH?
05:14 PM on 02/27/2012
Can anyone explain the 63 billion in spinoffs to Ontario? Or are we just going to accept that as gospel because the Canadian energy research instutes says so?
05:10 PM on 02/27/2012
I'm not a big fan of Dalton, but he's absolutely right in this case. Here's ontario manufacturing jobs vs. the value of the dollar.
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceskills/labour_market_information/bulletins/on/on-lmb-2011fall.pdf

And here's the link between the canadian dollar and oil prices.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/06/CommodityCurrencies.asp#axzz1ncfKcsq3

Harper has turned us into just another gulf petrostate sheikdom dependant on a single natural resource. This is a terrible arrangement for our country for the long term. Only a diverse economy can stay stable and continue growing.
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Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
04:30 PM on 02/27/2012
Why isn't Canada building an oil pipeline from Alberta to Thunder Bay? Starting right now!!

It's ludicrous for Ontario and Quebec to buy foreign oil.
04:00 PM on 02/27/2012
Dolton giving advice,LOL!
03:36 PM on 02/27/2012
Our only chance of survival is to elect Conservatives to power and to stick with them come hell or high oil.
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Liz Wilson 2
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04:40 PM on 02/27/2012
yes that is the message they are trying to get people to buy into. Unfortunatley, at some point and in the relatively near future oil will be gone but we will be left with a lot of foreign ownership include massive agreements with the Chinese that prevent Canada from value added processing facilities etc.

Very short term thinking and because so many people are only interested in the now they follow the sparkly thing dangled before them. Sad really
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08:21 PM on 02/27/2012
Hudak?
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Jay from Ottawa
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02:31 PM on 02/27/2012
"Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty is rejecting calls from his Alberta counterpart to do more to publicly defend the oilsands."

To my knowledges Ontario and Quebec are still buying foreign oil because it's cheaper even though it needs to be tanked across the atlantic.

Want Quebec and Ontario to promote oilsands ? Here's a simply solution: Offer Ontario and Quebec Albertan oil at the same price (if not ever so slightly cheaper) than their current stock of foriegn oil. Ontario gets to save some money and send its payment to another province instead of another country. Do that, and you'll quickly find two more oilsand backers.
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03:54 PM on 02/27/2012
No they are buying foreign oil because this are few oil pipelines connecting eastern and western Canada. Alberta sells its oil at the market price, like everyone else.
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Jay from Ottawa
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04:10 PM on 02/27/2012
"No they are buying foreign oil because this are few oil pipelines connecting eastern and western Canada."

So why then are we only talking about piping south (to the USA) or westwards (to China) when Ontario and Quebec are sending money outside of our country ? But the pipes have nothing to do with refined oil and have everything to do with crude because 1- Texas refineries are running under capacity ever since the BP accident and 2- China is more than happy to refine our crude and make top dollar on the final product.

This pipeline BS is nothing more than a option between shipping jobs to the USA or China, along with the oils final market value.

Refine the stuff in Canada, sell it to Canadian provinces, sell the surplus to the USA.

The USA has been talking about energy security for decades. Harpers Canada on the other hand, doesn't care about energy security, it'll do whatever the free market wants it to do, even if it goes against our own interests.

In the meantime, Ontario and Quebec are sending their oil money to Africa and the middle east, once again, against Canadas best interest.
02:09 PM on 02/27/2012
Dalton McGuinty, what a winner this man is. !! Firstly, the spin off manufacturing jobs in Ontario alone is a good reason to support the oilsands. Secondly, as a "have not " province , Ontario already benefits from equalization payments, largely financed by Alberta.
Thirdly, please get over your envy of Alberta's resources, one can rest assured that if the oilsands were located in Ontario, McGuinty would change his position 180 degrees, in a heartbeat. !!
Ontario's electricity consumers are doing so well currently financing solar and wind projects that another leader, Germany, has labelled a threat to their economy.
" The gang that could not shoot straight " would have more luck than this poor excuse for a provincial government !!!
04:01 PM on 02/27/2012
Keep seeing more and more Ontario voters every day, I live in Saskatchewan