Election Call Tapes Being Reviewed By Conservatives


First Posted: 03/ 1/2012 3:28 pm Updated: 03/ 2/2012 8:28 pm


The Conservative Party is reviewing tapes of every call made by the Responsive Marketing Group call centre in Thunder Bay, Ont., in the last election before Elections Canada investigators arrive next week, CBC News has learned.


Investigators are planning to interview the centre's staff, which the Conservative Party hired to make phone calls to identify and rally supporters in the 2011 federal election.


Conservative Party spokesman Fred Delorey denied that Conservative officials are reviewing the tapes.


"The Conservative Party is not reviewing tapes from the last election," he said in an email to CBC News.


And election commissioner William Corbett has assigned veteran investigator Ronald Lamothe, who was the lead on the in-and-out probe into 2006 election spending, to head inquiries in Thunder Bay, the Toronto Star reported.


The commissioner of Canada elections ensures compliance with election laws.


On Thursday, Conservative MPs' counterattack backfired after they accused the Liberals of being behind mysterious election calls — but mixed up two similarly named call companies, naming the wrong one as the smoking gun.


After a week of denials over the role the Conservative Party and a campaign team played in phone calls directing voters to the wrong polling station, and opposition party allegations over harassing calls in other ridings, Prime Minister Stephen Harper pushed back in question period.


The Liberals, Harper said in the House, have said people got misleading phone calls from numbers in the United States. But when two of his MPs tried to offer more details, they named a U.S.-based company that the Liberals have never used.


Interim Liberal Leader Bob Rae said Harper was smearing thousands of Canadians complaining about the calls.


"The prime minister and his colleagues have remarkable ability to turn themselves into victims," Rae said.


"The prime minister cannot deny the fact that two of the companies that are involved with respect to [campaign] activities are now under serious investigation. Nor can he deny the fact that there is an RCMP investigation ongoing with respect to what happened in Guelph."


Elections Canada is investigating automated robocalls in Guelph, Ont., that tried to send voters to the wrong polling station on election day.


Opposition MPs say they have reports of robocalls or strange, harassing live calls from more than 45 ridings in the lead-up to the May 2, 2011, election. They allege the Conservative campaigns made the rude calls, claiming to be the Liberals, in an attempt to make the Liberal campaigns look bad. Harper says the opposition parties didn't report the calls at the time and are acting like sore losers.


Conservatives mix-up companies


But the counterattack backfired when Conservative MPs mixed up two companies with the same name.


Pierre Poilievre and Dean Del Mastro pointed in question period to Liberal candidates who, they said, used a company based in North Dakota to make calls soliciting support.


"The opposition parties said that [their supporters] received calls from a telephone firm with offices in North Dakota. But the only party who hired a firm with offices in North Dakota was the Liberal Party," Poilievre said.


NDP MP Charlie Angus, who spoke right after Poilievre, pointed out that was incorrect.


"Mr. Speaker, they're going to need to get some better researchers, because there is a firm in North Dakota with the same name, but it actually doesn't work for the Liberal Party," he said.


The confusion centred on three call companies with similar names, including Prime Contact Group, based in Canada, and Prime Contact Inc., based in North Dakota.


A spokesman for Prime Contact Inc. told CBC News that the company has never worked for a Canadian political party or candidate and is not affiliated in any way with Prime Contact Group.


Harper said a third company, First Contact, routed its calls through the U.S. A number of Liberal campaigns used First Contact for calls during the 2011 election and in at least one previous election.


But First Contact owner Mike O'Neill told the CBC's Dave Seglins last April that someone was "spoofing" First Contact's numbers — projecting a fake caller ID — to impersonate his company.


Bogus caller IDs and phone numbers


CBC News conducted its own experiment and found dozens of online companies and services that allow users to create bogus caller IDs and faked display phone numbers. It takes just seconds and can be done for just pennies per call.


A spokesman for Harper says First Contact's servers are in the U.S., so the phone number will appear as a U.S. number.


But O'Neill told Evan Solomon, host of the CBC's Power & Politics, on Thursday afternoon that First Contact does not route calls through the U.S.


"All of our live calls are made from centres in Canada under our direct supervision. All of our data and servers are hosted in Canada. We have never engaged a U.S.-based call centre and we have no links to any businesses operating in North Dakota," O'Neill wrote in an email.


First Contact provided services to more than 80 Liberal candidates in the 2011 election, O'Neill said.


He explained that when companies like his and political parties want to conduct telephone town halls, they are limited "to a handful of telephone town hall providers and their proprietary technology, and all are U.S.-based." The hosts, program moderators and guests are still located in Canada, O'Neill said.


Liberal MP Frank Valeriote, the MP for Guelph, said on Power & Politics while on a panel with Del Mastro that, "it is ridiculous to think that Liberals would try and suppress their own voters from coming out to vote."


"That is just absurd," he said, adding that he thinks it shows the Conservatives are desperate to deflect the accusations.


NDP MP Pat Martin, following question period, said the Conservatives are trying to "muddy the waters" by saying that the Liberals made harassing phone calls to their own supporters.


He also put forward a theory about why Conservatives would allegedly try to suppress the vote in ridings where they were headed for clear victories.


"I'm telling you why, because they're trying to starve their political opponents for resources. Every vote that they divert from the polling station for our party is $2 less per year over four years," he said, referring to the per-vote subsidy that parties receive.


Elections Canada not reporting on investigations


Earlier in the day, a democracy watchdog group urged MPs to demand more from Elections Canada when it comes to reporting on how the agency follows up on complaints.


A spokesman for Democracy Watch says 2,300 complaints were submitted to Elections Canada between 2004 and 2011, but the agency didn't report on whether it investigated or what it found.


"Our MPs have kind of dropped the ball here because what they should have been doing is asking for this information, not only from Elections Canada but from every single watchdog," Tyler Sommers said.


Elections Canada has refused to confirm its investigation in Guelph, although the RCMP has confirmed it is assisting in the investigation.


"It’s likely that the robocall issue is only the tip of the iceberg and that, because Elections Canada hasn’t been disclosing information like they should, there are going to be some serious questions about whether our elections have been fair since 2004," Sommers said.


He said reports of automated calls directing voters to the wrong polling station in Guelph, Ont., in the last federal election are "very disturbing."


Sommers said Democracy Watch will push MPs to demand information about any investigations Elections Canada leads.


"It's very simple. Elections are the cornerstone of any democracy," he said. "Without faith in elections, you can’t have faith in the rest of our democratic institutions."


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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
04:28 PM on 03/03/2012
Why are the suspects in a crime being allowed access to evidence before the police arrive?
04:14 PM on 03/03/2012
The Conservatives should not be allowed to go into that robo-calling place and have the chance to clear up anything incriminating before Election Canada gets there. Here's what needs to happen to get justice from this mess: http://nickfillmore.blogspot.com/2012/03/big-robo-calling-question-will-anyone.html
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
08:48 PM on 03/03/2012
Even with adequate funding, given the record of the agency-in-question, I don't give this one much chance … depressing

http://www.canada.com/Elections+Canada+falling+down+electoral+fraud+Democracy+Watch/6228790/story.html
03:47 PM on 03/03/2012
"Review" means destroy what they can, get started on the spin to deal with the rest.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
03:14 PM on 03/03/2012
So now ask yourselves. Do you trust this government to read your emails and view your movements online in real time? Follow you where you go? Listen in to your calls? To be unaccountable? To tell the truth? To run a clean government? To be honest and fair minded? To obey the laws? No? Well then your outside of the REFORM/THEOCRACY bubble. Your in reality land!!! Where facts count.
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Another Pesky Canadian
Talk - action = 0
11:13 AM on 03/03/2012
Re: "Tapes Being Reviewed By Conservatives"

"Reviewed"?
So that's what they're calling it now....as in: "my car was hit by a speeding Bus and it's totally Reviewed now."
08:41 PM on 03/02/2012
CBC is now reporting that RackNine is suing Pat Martin and the NDP for $50 million for defamation.
Gee...I wonder who put them up to that?
04:04 PM on 03/02/2012
good grief,sounds like my best friend telling the cops i'm a bad guy,hmmmmm
03:44 PM on 03/02/2012
Suggest everyone sign this petition.
http://www.avaaz.org/en/election_fraud//?cl=1636523611&v=12998
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canobserv
10:25 AM on 03/03/2012
although I appreciate this...it doesn't do much....over 100,00 people signed a petition in regards to Proroging........didn't so anything.....however thousands of snail mail to the MP's and GG..even the Queen :) would be noticed.........
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murphyj87
03:01 PM on 03/02/2012
The RCMP Forensics Unit will be able to tell when these Conservative newly altered tapes are submitted to Elections Canada, and on to the RCMP to be tested for altering. Any altering will be immediately considered by the People of Canada as proof of Conservative guilt in altering, and of attempting to hide their election fraud.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
03:05 PM on 03/03/2012
Like Nixon
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lulex
Made in Canada
02:45 PM on 03/02/2012
Tories admitted they were responsible for phone calls around Kitchener Waterloo area that misled folks to wrong polls. Follow the articles as published in the KW Record. Here they are:
Article 1: http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/641986--mp-albrecht-pledges-investigation-after-crank-election-calls-traced-to-tory-office
Article 2: http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/642172--phone-number-behind-misleading-call-disconnected
And the doozy, titled, "Tories say misleading phone call was a mistake" aka Article 3: http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/642815--tories-say-misleading-phone-call-was-a-mistake
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Irazu
I have nothing to declare
07:43 PM on 03/02/2012
Thanks for posting links.

How much more damning can this get?

No wonder Elections Canada is giving the Tories a one-week head start on collecting evidence.
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All Seeing Guy
Center of the storm
02:17 PM on 03/02/2012
"This is an opposition slur! We are categorically, absolutely not behind this!!!"

*"Psst, hey, go and make sure we're not behind this"*
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Another Pesky Canadian
Talk - action = 0
03:18 PM on 03/02/2012
More like: "make sure this doesn't get back to us"
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
03:06 PM on 03/03/2012
Watch for people to go missing
02:08 PM on 03/02/2012
Those phone records should have been immediately seized by the RCMP. Why would you give a political party time to review and delete any potential evidence.
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King Stevie Harper
03:08 PM on 03/02/2012
absolutely, Carpe Diem seize the tapes today!
before the crooked so-called conservatives delete them
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
03:07 PM on 03/03/2012
When the R and the C stand for Reform Controlled
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
01:49 PM on 03/02/2012
make some noise where ever you may be in your local city square on March 30th from 6pm. RoboHarper's birthday. He's fired

Hey hey ho ho RoboHarper s got to go
01:43 PM on 03/02/2012
For any of those "Conservative" MP's left in this bunch of theocons, you had better stand up for Canada and renounce the travesty which has turned into the CPC. Become independent, cross the floor, do anything to show those of us in the real world that some of you still have ethics.
Show us that some of you still understand the responsilibity you have to us, the Canadian people.
We amy take a while to warm up, but the fire has been lit, and you will not survive another election under the name of the CPC.
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Another Pesky Canadian
Talk - action = 0
03:19 PM on 03/02/2012
Conservative Party motto: "Ethics, we don't need no stinkin' ethics!"