Crime Bill Returns To Commons With Senate Amendments

First Posted: 03/ 6/2012 9:33 am Updated: 03/ 7/2012 2:28 pm

Omnibus Crime Bill
The Conservatives' omnibus crime bill is back in the House of Commons Tuesday after it was amended last week in the Senate. (CP/Jupiter Images)


The government's omnibus crime bill was back in the House of Commons Tuesday after it was amended last week in the Senate and it could be one day away from becoming law.


Members of Parliament debated Bill C-10 — the safe streets and communities act — but NDP MP Jack Harris dominated most of the time allotted by talking about the bill for more than two hours.


Debate will continue Wednesday afternoon and Harris indicated he would be prepared to keep talking, but told reporters he wasn't sure how long he would continue his speech.


Late Tuesday, Government House Leader Peter Van Loan gave notice of a time allocation motion to limit further debate on this final step for the legislation. That motion could be debated and pass Wednesday afternoon.


A vote on the bill could be held Wednesday evening, subject to the success of the government's effort to limit debate.


If the time allocation motion passes, it will be the third time the government has used such a motion to speed passage of this legislation in the House of Commons. In addition, the government stepped in to limit debate during the justice committee's review of the bill.


Justice Minister Rob Nicholson had opened debate on the bill by saying Canada needs legislation that is responsive to what is happening on the country's streets and meets Canadians' expectations.


"It's our job as parliamentarians to deal with criminals, to protect society and do whatever we can to deter crime," he said.


Child pornography warrants lengthy and serious sentences, he said, and Canadians are also concerned about the drug trade.


"No Canadian wants to live next door to a grow-op," said Nicholson.


The justice minister went on to justify all of the bill's measures and said the reforms send a message to criminals that they will be held accountable for their actions.


The Senate's legal and constitutional affairs committee, as expected, amended the part of the bill that allows Canadians to sue perpetrators of terrorism, and their supporters, in Canadian courts.


Controversial amendments


The six amendments have been a source of some controversy because Liberal MP Irwin Cotler tried to propose similar ones when the bill was before the House of Commons justice committee. The Conservatives voted against the amendments and then tried to introduce virtually the same ones under their own name at the next stage of the bill.


The Conservatives found themselves accused of rejecting the amendments purely for partisan purposes. They voted against all amendments proposed by the Liberals and NDP.


The government was not allowed to introduce the terrorism-related amendments at the report stage, according to procedural rules, and instead had to bring them in when the bill landed in the Senate.


The bill as originally drafted allowed Canadians to sue proxy groups for terrorism, but not states themselves. That was changed in order to allow states to be held responsible. Other tweaks to language were also made.


Cotler said in a statement Tuesday that while he is glad the government adopted the terrorism-related measures, the bill is still a poor one.


The Liberals said the bill repeats the mistakes of "discredited American crime policy" because of the mandatory minimum sentences while straining federal-provincial relations.


"At the end of the day, C-10 will give us more crime and less justice, and at increased cost to taxpayers," said Cotler.


The NDP also expressed its opposition to the safe streets act, calling it a "wrong-headed" approach to justice.


Senate urges alternative treatment options


The Senate report on the bill contained a number of recommendations based on testimony the committee heard from a range of witnesses. It said a consistent concern related to the challenges faced by the corrections system in dealing with offenders with mental illnesses.


The senators urged the government to consider alternative treatment options, particularly for female offenders who have a higher incidence of mental illness than male offenders. They also want attention paid to the over-representation of aboriginal Canadians in the justice system, both as offenders and victims.


The omnibus crime bill has nine major components to it that combined bills from previous sessions in Parliament that never passed. It makes significant changes to the justice and corrections systems, including the introduction of new mandatory minimum sentences for certain drug crimes, increasing maximum penalties for certain offences, restricting the use of conditional sentences, and changes to the youth criminal justice system.


The reforms are expected to increase the number of people behind bars. The provinces have balked at paying for the added costs for a federal piece of legislation.


The government has said the price tag for the legislation is worthwhile because the cost of crime to society exceeds the cost of enforcing the laws.


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  • Key Measures In Tory Crime Bill

    The bill, known as the Safe Streets and Communities Act, includes the following measures: <em>With files from The Canadian Press</em> (CP/Alamy)

  • Child Sex Offences

    Heftier penalties for sexual offences against children. The bill also creates two new offences aimed at conduct that could facilitate or enable the commission of a sexual offence against a child. (MANAN VATSYAYANA/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Drugs

    Tougher sentences for the production and possession of illicit drugs for the purposes of trafficking. (NICOLAS ASFOURI/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Violent And Young Offenders

    Tougher penalties for violent and repeat young offenders. (JOHN MACDOUGALL/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Conditional Sentences

    An end to the use of conditional sentences, or house arrest, for serious and violent crimes (GEOFF ROBINS/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Parole Hearings

    Allowing victims to participate in parole hearings. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Adrian Wyld)

  • Pardons

    Extending ineligibility periods for applications for pardons to five years from three for summary-conviction offences and to 10 years from five for indictable offences. (Flickr: haven't the slightest)

  • Transferring Canadian Offenders

    Expanding the criteria that the public safety minister can consider when deciding whether to allow the transfer of a Canadian offender back to Canada to serve a sentence. (JOEL ROBINE/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Terror Victims

    Allowing terrorism victims to sue terrorists and their supporters, including listed foreign states, for losses or damages resulting from an act of terrorism committed anywhere in the world.(STRDEL/AFP/Getty Images)

  • Human Trafficking

    Measures to prevent human trafficking and exploitation. (LOUISA GOULIAMAKI/AFP/Getty Images)

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03:52 PM on 03/07/2012
"No Canadian wants to live next door to a grow-op," said Nicholson.
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I am Canadian and I have no problem living next to a marijuana growing facility, however I would definitely prefer that all growing facilities be allowed to operate legally, safely and if they are selling product, to operate at a certain legislated standard. There is little difference in growing tomatoes vs pot except that one is forced to be done underground and hidden and can create incredible profits for criminal elements.
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I don't align myself with any political party.
02:54 PM on 03/07/2012
The government has said the price tag for the legislation is worthwhile because the cost of crime to society exceeds the cost of enforcing the laws."

The government wants us to be in debt so that people generate cash off canada! without doing a damn thing.!!! its how people make money off the most powerful nation in the world america... through the federal reserve.

Before the conservatives we weren't in a national debt.
now with stephen harper we will never see our way out of one. and they want this.

harper has said at the G20 that there is a world economy, and hes setting us up to ally with london & the states,

War with with Iran will b ww3, and if u dont support it sounds like your gonna be put in jail in canada! because 25% of canadians smoke pot..... so your taxes are going up because that sweet old neighbor lady of yours is now in jail for lighting up a spliff.

stephen harper banker buddies make money.

people in jail get HIV/ other STIS, Stephen harpers pharmaceutical friends make money

the people of Canada Lose alot of money / friends / workforce and so for the people who stay outta jail have to pick up the slack, and the other people's taxes and 88,000$ a year inprisonment cost... which is more then the average canadian makes a year,
ya the system was just screwed into total complacency for a world agenda.
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
10:39 AM on 03/07/2012
Blind Ideology and pandering to the base:

"...Kevin Page, the independent budgetary watchdog appointed by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, suggested the government doesn't actually have any firm research as a counter argument to his office's report.

Neither Correctional Service Canada nor the parole board provided data for the study, said Page.

And when Page's researchers went to Statistics Canada and the provinces for data, "we didn't get any sense that federal bureaucrats or the government actually had done the costing."

"We were going to the original source of the data and finding we were the first people asking these questions."

The report concludes that about 3,800 additional offenders would face jail time under Criminal Code changes to conditional sentences in Bill C-10, but that 650 would simply walk free after opting for trials they won.

And the cost per offender to Canadian taxpayers would increase to $41,000 from the current $2,600 — a 16-fold increase..."

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/02/28/omnibus-crime-bill-costs-conditional-sentences_n_1306528.html?ref=omnibus-crime-bill
06:03 PM on 03/06/2012
I hope there are long long mandatory minimums for voter fraud. I want to see Harper's and his goons' mugs behind those bars by this time next year.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
06:19 PM on 03/06/2012
Five years and/or a $5000 fine. I'd say that fine should be x100, if not more.
11:28 PM on 03/06/2012
I would definitely prefer they get lots of jail time. They need to be taught a lesson - don't mess with our votes.
05:40 PM on 03/06/2012
The beginning of the end.
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Glass Cannon
Let every eye negotiate for itself.
05:22 PM on 03/06/2012
Insurance companies are very conservative. The computer calculates risk and the insurance companies tell the Prime Minister and his cabinet what they want done to decrease their potential risk. At least that's a theory. And the computer doesn't care how much money it costs someone else, it just cares how much it costs the insurance company.
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05:22 PM on 03/06/2012
From a conservative viewpoint, this is welfare for the prison industry. Locking up more undesirables is just a bonus.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
05:11 PM on 03/06/2012
NOTICE: Supreme Court injunction needed to suspend enactment of this legislation until questions surrounding the legitimacy of the current government's majority status have been resolved.

Thank you for your attention. You may now return to your hockey game and cooking show and talkshows.
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working onit
Stop Harper
05:02 PM on 03/06/2012
Save Canada. STOP this CRAP government.
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stanschurman
04:36 PM on 03/06/2012
Is the photo that of Harper trying out the prison bars in case he's convicted of election tampering? But of course that'll never happen. Stevie Boy will always be sure to insulate himself with several layers of fall-guys to toss under the bus.
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04:01 PM on 03/06/2012
No Canadian wants to live next door to a grow-op," said Nicholson.

right rob ---they are lined up down the street and around the corner to complain about that one --
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Werd
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03:58 PM on 03/06/2012
"No Canadian wants to live next door to a grow-op," - judging by the stats i've seen, most people don't care. small scale legal grow-ops (or outdoor gardens) would prevent the sketchy hydro set-ups that cause fires.
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
10:46 AM on 03/07/2012
...and steal power.
03:55 PM on 03/06/2012
I believe crime rates have falled mainly because no on breaks into houses anymore to steal
camera's, cell phones, tv's etc etc
or too busy playng video games...