Elections Canada: Conservatives Relent, Agree To New Audit Powers Suggested By NDP

First Posted: 03/ 7/2012 4:24 pm Updated: 03/ 8/2012 2:42 pm

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The Conservative government has reversed course and now says it will support an NDP motion to give Elections Canada increased audit powers.

OTTAWA - The Conservative government reversed course Wednesday and now says it will support an NDP motion to give Elections Canada increased audit powers.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who has battled the federal elections watchdog for much of his political career, told the House of Commons his government will support new legislation within six months — as proposed by the official Opposition.

"We are not opposed at all to that proposal," Harper, speaking French, responded to NDP interim Leader Nicole Turmel.

The prime minister's casual concession — a day after he'd repeatedly sidestepped the question — appeared to catch the opposition off-guard, as both New Democrat and Liberal MPs subsequent questions continued to rail about Conservative intransigence.

A spokesman in the Prime Minister's Office confirmed the government's about-face after the daily question period.

New Democrats and Liberals have been making hay of the fact a Conservative-dominated committee last month formally turned down a recommendation by the chief electoral officer for new investigative powers. The rejection followed almost two years of committee deliberation on the issue, much of it behind closed doors.

"Are the wheels beginning to fall off their wagon?" a non-plussed NDP critic David Christopherson asked outside the Commons.

"Are they finally getting some oxygen and realizing what the right thing is to do?"

The Conservative committee rejection has been used by opposition critics as damning evidence against the government in the context of Elections Canada's growing investigation into fraudulent election phone calls during the 2011 campaign.

However the connection is circumstantial, not direct. Mayrand initially asked for improved audit powers following the 2008 election, and not in the context of his current robocalls inquiry.

"I am unaware of Elections Canada claiming they do not have the authority or resources to investigate this matter as they should," Harper dryly noted Wednesday in the Commons.

Christopherson will formally introduce a voteable NDP motion Thursday calling for legislation, within six months, giving Elections Canada the power to compel supporting documents on parties' financial claims.

The motion also proposes that telecommunications companies who do voter contact work during elections must register with Elections Canada, and would impose tighter regulations on robocall clients.

For a prime minister who has long fought Elections Canada, Harper's agreement to new powers may reflect the political toll the robocall scandal is taking on his government.

Bob Rae, the interim Liberal leader, noted that as head of the right-wing National Citizens Coalition, Harper battled the elections watchdog all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada before losing in 2004 on his constitutional challenge of third-party advertising limits during election campaigns.

In the course of that challenge, Harper publicly derided Elections Canada officials as "jackasses."

"We also have to understand, everything in Mr. Harper's background makes him dislike Elections Canada," said Rae.

Harper and the Conservative party just spent five years fighting Elections Canada over illegally exceeding their spending limit in the 2006 campaign that brought them to power. Last November, the party and its fundraising arm both pleaded guilty to two counts each of violating the Elections Act and paid the maximum $52,000 fine.

And late Tuesday night, the Conservatives dropped a related challenge to the Supreme Court and agreed to repay $230,198 in 2006 election rebates to candidates who weren't eligible because of the fudged party books.

"They were found guilty. They were found that they did something wrong. They appealed the ruling. They lost," said NDP MP Pat Martin.

"Now they're going to cough up."

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okgranny
Egalitarian by birth
11:54 AM on 03/08/2012
According to an Angus Reid poll done on March 6, - 4 out of 5 Canadians want an independent investigation to find out who was behind misleading robocalls made in the 2011 federal election. There are 30,000+ complaints to Election Canada indicating possible electoral fraud.

These are extremely serious allegations and our response will determine the type of society we, as Canadian are willing to accept. I believe the "dumb" on Crime Bill and the "warrantless" Internet Surveillance Bill are harmful to our society, if not downright wicked. Unprecedented numbers of international experts have warned the government that the crime bill alone will cost billions and not make us any safer.

Since when did Canadians trade Justice for Security? This is the mantra of Totalitarian regimes, along with, "Why are you afraid if you have nothing to hide?" As a grandparent, I urge everyone to think very hard about what we want for our children and grandchildren. How much of their freedoms are we willing to trade for a false sense of security from phantom fears. Do we really want a Police State accompanied by it's rampant abuses? Our decisions to act or to not act now will determine their future.

As Rick Mercer recently said about the robocall scandal, "It's not a left thing or a right thing, it's a 'thing' and concerns all Canadians". Insist on a judicial inquiry. Demand answers. Contact Representatives, join the 60,000+ concerned citizens on Avaaz.org. Talk to your family and friends.
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famullar
11:35 AM on 03/08/2012
We have all the facilities to enhance out IT and brains but with THE SUPER TUESDAY, I have no idea where this word comes from anyway, we have problems all over the world and to say that we can/will do better is a hard to digest for now. May be the next years will be better I hope but I foresee no change un till we are in 2014 I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA
11:01 AM on 03/08/2012
ConservatismKills
11:20 AM on 03/08/2012
Liberalism is self-destructive.

Always giving people what they want, not what they need.
11:22 AM on 03/08/2012
conservatives need a kick in the butt ---lots of liberals would step up for that duty
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
11:57 AM on 03/08/2012
A Town Without Poverty?
Canada's only experiment in guaranteed income finally gets reckoning

Whitehorse, Yukon - Try to imagine a town where the government paid each of the residents a living income, regardless of who they were and what they did, and a Soviet hamlet in the early 1980s may come to mind.

But this experiment happened much closer to home. For a four-year period in the '70s, the poorest families in Dauphin, Manitoba, were granted a guaranteed minimum income by the federal and provincial governments. Thirty-five years later all that remains of the experiment are 2,000 boxes of documents that have gathered dust in the Canadian archives building in Winnipeg.

"...If a guaranteed income program can target more people and is more efficient than other social assistance programs, then why doesn't Canada have such a program in place already? Perhaps the biggest barrier is the prevalence of negative stereotypes about poor people..."

http://www.dominionpaper.ca/articles/4100
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Irazu
I have nothing to declare
10:30 AM on 03/08/2012
Dramatic Tory reversal on allowing Elections Canada to look at their FUTURE books...

This has nothing to do with emerging accusations that the riding of Eglinton-Lawrence registered 2,700 voters without bothering to check their identities or register their addresses! The winner of that contest is now the Minister of Natural Resources.

When a "welfare queen", so villified by the Tory supporters, is caught attempting to defraud the Canadian taxpayer of more than $200,000, paying the money back is just the first part of her punishment - the Tories will demand jail time and a minimum sentence. However, when the Conservative Parrty of Canada tries the same thing, the bobble-heads insist that they only violated a "regulation" and no jail time is warranted.

The Canadian public is being played for suckers.
11:34 AM on 03/08/2012
Normally, when a corporation or an organization is found to be in violation of a regulation, only fines are levied, as personal culpability is almost impossible to prove.

For example, union leaders are rarely held responsible for the illegal antics that inevitably occur during most every strike.

However, when a specific person is found guilty of blatant theft from the public purse, prison time is still highly unlikely, but easier to justify.
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Irazu
I have nothing to declare
11:46 AM on 03/08/2012
Hi Harley - you are right, of course.

But I had a long argument with a Tory supporter recently who insisted that "regualtions" are not the same as "laws" and thus .... what? So, while the fire and brimstone Tories, so tough on law and order, insist on minimum sentences for all kinds of transgressions, they don't seem to mind it all when their own party is caught with their hand in the cookie jar... instead of standing on their hind legs and insisting that the full weight of the law be applied, as they would if the fraud involved a welfare claimant, they fall back on the weak distinction between "regulations" and "laws".
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
10:29 AM on 03/08/2012
Please everybody, you need to read this article, it is 3 short pages long but it reveals how the CONS trained the campaign managers to suppress voters. This article is VERY revealing and should remove all doubts about what happened. Please send it to your local newspaper or TV station and demand they do a story on it. I've already asked Huff po to look into it and maybe do an interview with Mr. Fryer.

Titled: Inside the Conservatives' voter suppression school

"...In the wake of the robo-call scandal, John Fryer penned a letter to major newspapers describing his experience attending at the Conservative-aligned Manning Centre for Democracy Campaign School. Here's a deeper look at the key players at his training...".

"...The conversation that followed was deeply disturbing to Fryer. In a question and answer session, attendees discussed voter suppression tactics. They talked about posing as a member of another party, and about making rude calls at inconvenient times as a strategy to get the supporter of another party to not go out and vote for their candidate. The instructors detailed different kinds of suppression calls, and how these tactics are borrowed from the U.S. Republican Party..."

http://goo.gl/837yI
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ProgressiveCDN
A Progressive Moderate
10:14 AM on 03/08/2012
I want to see the actual legislation and see Harper and his cronies actually vote for these audit powers... until then, it's just hollow platitudes.
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Winterseeker
For the trees...we need them, not vice versa.
09:53 AM on 03/08/2012
Who knows? Maybe if enough sense kicks into this Conservative Party Harper may just realize he has enraged to the point of no return virtually the entire Canadian populace in this short few months of office as a majority government. Looks like the bigger the party is, the harder it falls. Flat on its face.
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Ukridge
“If there’s a bustle in your hedgerow, don’t
09:38 AM on 03/08/2012
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09:09 AM on 03/08/2012
The United States of Canada... I used to like what made Canada different from the U.S. I see that difference disappearing faster than you can say Stephen Harper. Is that what we want?
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
09:42 PM on 03/08/2012
the difference is that in the States there are Congress and the Supreme Court and something other than a lap-dog media who are out to get the Executive Branch. Not the same thing at all as in Canada where all are in the business of kissing the PMO's you-know-what.
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
08:55 AM on 03/08/2012
It will be up to the people to enforce their will for a just and fair society. To do nothing plays into the CPC's hand.

We must come together as Canadians to define the kind of country, what kind of society, indeed, what kind of world we want to live in.

We can either, through Harper's policies, descend to the lowest levels of third world thuggery or advance to a new paradigm. It's up to us.
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mravka
The world has gone completely mad.
09:11 AM on 03/08/2012
Hear, hear.
12:10 PM on 03/08/2012
Faved & fanned. Well said.
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
08:15 PM on 03/08/2012
Thank you.
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canobserv
08:35 AM on 03/08/2012
http://www.vancouverobserver.com/politics/2012/03/07/robo-call-scandal-origins-inside-conservatives%E2%80%99-voter-suppression-school?page=0,0

disturbing to say the least
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
09:19 AM on 03/08/2012
this too. http://goo.gl/837yI (the link above got me a 404.)
Dinsdale Pirahna
"lookin' out the 'ole in the wall"
10:07 AM on 03/08/2012
You have the right link for the above article. Get this link into as many posts as you can, I requested Huff Po look into this further and maybe interview Mr Fryer. Haven't heard anything back on it yet. Leadnow.ca sent me this info. This information may finally wake up the people of Canada to what really happened.
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canobserv
12:50 PM on 03/08/2012
Thank you!
06:31 AM on 03/08/2012
harpies campaigned on transparency ----

they are being dragged kicking and screaming by an opposition motion to take the first tiny step -----

we shall see if they take the next steps voluntarily
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
08:57 AM on 03/08/2012
They shall not. We will be forced pinch our noses and carry these rancid gopher-taints over the line.
04:58 AM on 03/08/2012
One of the smartest things they've ever done was to call themselves "Conservatives", instead of who they really are: C.R.A.P. - Conservative Reform Alliance Party
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
03:40 AM on 03/08/2012
The NDP are actually, once again, doing the Conservatives a favour by giving them time to let the situation diffuse and allowing them the opportunity to make it appear as though they're cooperating.

The HarperCons get elected by using their considerable war chest to confuse the electorate, attack the oppostion, and pull any sort of trick they can think of.
In election campaigns where 3 political parties split the opposing vote.

So don't expect the HarperCons agreeing to debate the NDP motion, to ever become law in the way it's intended.
01:04 AM on 03/08/2012
Come on 6 months, really. Ur let the media tire of it, stay in power and out of jail for another six months....do it now if you are so certsin it was the opposition doing it....