NDP Leadership Debate: Candidates Call Out Thomas Mulcair Over Critical Remarks

First Posted: 03/11/2012 7:43 pm Updated: 03/12/2012 8:43 am

VANCOUVER — NDP leadership contender Thomas Mulcair was accused by his fellow competitors Sunday of turning his back on his party for trying to reach out and appeal to new voters.

The Quebec MP was the subject of most of the attacks from other leadership candidates during the NDP's last official debate in Vancouver before it convenes on March 23 and 24 in Toronto to elect a new leader.

“You’ve attacked our opposition to unfair trade deals, our links with the labour movement, our championing of ordinary people, you’ve said that we’re one of the only social democratic parties not to renew itself,” Manitoba MP Niki Ashton told Mulcair.

“Would it not make more sense to go after Stephen Harper’s policies than to criticize our own party?” she said.

Ashton, former party president Brian Topp, and Ontario MPs Peggy Nash and Paul Dewar were all after Mulcair to come clean about the direction in which he would take the party.

"What direction will it take our party in, because so far you’ve refused to say,” Nash said.

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“I think you have been very critical of our party,” Topp chimed in after. “Tom, instead of saying our party is the problem, (shouldn't) we be attacking unfair taxes, climate change and inequality, the issues our party was funded to fight?”

Dewar suggested Mulcair was ill-fitted to lead a party he didn't fully support.

“How can you inspire people to vote for our party when you don’t seem to be inspired by our party?” Dewar asked.

Mulcair told the estimated audience of 1,000 -- 500 of whom were watching in two overflow rooms -- that what he wanted to do was mimic the NDP’s success in Quebec in other areas of the country by changing and adapting the language used in party communications to different regions.

“Our boilerplate, our way of connecting with people has often been ‘Here’s the central campaign, stick our candidate’s face here.’ What I’ve been hearing from across Canada is that people want us to adapt exactly as we did in Quebec. There was no contradiction between the Quebec campaign and the general campaign; we adapted and we won 59 seats. That’s what I want,” Muclair said.

The NDP’s Quebec election campaign used different messaging focused on throwing out the provinces’ ineffective politicians who barked at each other and taking a chance on a new party instead.

If the NDP didn’t change, Mulcair suggested, it would never be able to obtain power.

“We have to be cognizant of the fact that between the Ontario border and the B.C. border we now hold a grand total of three seats. So if we don’t do something differently the next time around, it is guaranteed we will get the same result," he said.

After the debate, the candidates said they were unsatisfied with Mulcair’s answers.

Mulcair hadn’t been “clear” enough Topp said, while Dewar stated the Quebec MP hadn’t provided “enough detail.”

“These aren’t just about superficial language or local issues, this is about the foundation of who we are,” Ashton said.

Nash, who told reporters she believes she will be on the final ballot with Mulcair on March 24, suggested he was holding a secret agenda.

“I think that’s a fundamental question as a leadership candidate that he needs to answer, what direction is he taking the party, and I don’t think we got a clear response,” she said.

“As New Democrats start to vote, they need to know where each candidate would take the party,” Nash said. “It is really a fundamental question about which way our party will be going in the future,” she added, saying she planned to raise it as she continues meeting with New Democrats ahead of the Toronto convention.

But B.C. MP Nathan Cullen, the hometown boy who charmed the crowd Sunday and who has suggested working with the Liberals and Greens to elect more progressive parliamentarians, told reporters he wasn’t sure what the other candidates were fishing for from Mulcair.

“This talk and notion of betrayal and these ‘Some New Democrats are good New Democrats and others need to be pass some other kind of test’ is offensive to me. I think it’s wedge politics, but done within the family,” Cullen said.

“Some of those same accusations have been levelled towards me… so I more than take offense, I reject any of these notions,” he added. “It’s wrong and offensive.”

Mulcair told reporters he thinks the other candidates are coming after him because he’s the frontrunner.

“When you get people coming at you with that question, what they are essentially saying is that they realize that your campaign is doing well,” he said.

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01:29 AM on 03/14/2012
finally the media is listening to people and not just the media. to suggest he's the front runner because people in the party think he's too right or centre, is missing the point. many in the party see him as a liberal, and always will and therefore won't, and never will, vote for him.
08:17 PM on 03/12/2012
Mulcair has a long sympathized with the separatist movement in Quebec. Keep him away from the leader's chair or he'll steer the party and our country into another kiss Quebec's..........frenzy.
03:46 AM on 03/15/2012
Mulcair, by eliminating the alternative to the Harper regime, will help grease the skids to Quebec separatism which will be the long-term result of unchecked Harperism.
09:17 AM on 03/15/2012
Regretfully, many in our country do not see that aspect of the equation. Good call.
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03:52 PM on 03/12/2012
Nobody ever won an election by moving "to the center." You win elections by moving the center to you.
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02:32 PM on 03/12/2012
Great piece, Althia. With the NDP's preferential balloting system (something that hasn't been suggested to my knowledge in the whole election reform discussion federally, but is used in other countries' runoff elections), it will be fascinating to see how it all shakes up if/when bottom-tier candidates start dropping off and endorsing others.

Here's my live blog from the NDP final debate yesterday: http://www.vancouverobserver.com/politics/2012/03/11/ndp-leadership-debate-vancouver-live-blog
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01:52 PM on 03/12/2012
The Party is already sliding to far to that comfortable middle class right,which is not to equate it to the Conservative wing nut right but is not were I would be supportive.
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12:54 PM on 03/12/2012
The ideals of the NDP are the ideals of it's members. That will never change. Let's not fall into the pit of "more idealistic than thou" and focus on getting the job done. Progressive socialist policies are sound policies which will benefit the majority of Canadians.

Conservatives are implementing failed neo-con US policies because they are being well rewarded to do so. These policies are very lucrative for the corporate elite but are destroying the quality of life for the working class. The NDP must present itself as the best choice for the average Canadian.

Thomas Mulcair fell off the progressive end of the Liberal Party. He is extremely valuable as a link to Quebec. He is also a dynamic and practical political strategist. To get our policies in place the NDP must win seats. Let's win some elections and get something done! Solidarity for Peace and Prosperity!
12:44 PM on 03/12/2012
The question is do you want to win seats or do you want to be orange, you can't have it both ways. If you are happy at the sideline twiddling your thumbs in the opposition like you are now, then go with being orange. If you want to win seats, move to the centre. How hard is that?

Assuming that you want to win seats, start by taking up the fiscal conservative talking point. It has merits, it resonates with voters, and it is NOT in conflict with social-liberalism. Best of all, it is 80% of the PC's talking point, so by taking it up, the PC has to fight for what is traditionally their base. Even better, the PCs has proved that they are pathetic at being fiscally responsible. Choose your battleground. Its not hard at all.
12:14 PM on 03/12/2012
Poor guy, he actually would like to see the NDP elected as the governing Party someday.
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11:54 AM on 03/12/2012
"If the NDP didn’t change, Mulcair suggested, it would never be able to obtain power."

Mulclair's 100% correct, for the NDP to be relevant to "ordinary" Canadians they need to find new ways to connect to "the people". Jack knew that, it was because he was able to connect on a personal level that the NDP did so well in the last election.

Change is good!
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peter sfikas
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12:15 AM on 03/12/2012
Only Brian Topp can be counted on, to keep the true course of what the NDP is all about. Let's not dilute the ideals the NDP stands for. Don't let the "others" turn the NDP into a Liberal clone. It's Brian Topp and NDP's big ideas; that our beloved Jack so well formulated, and that we should all work to bring to fruition! We have the MOMENTUM! Any change will only dilute NDP's value, and diminish our chances to form the next Government!
11:51 PM on 03/11/2012
The NDP, like the liberal-democrats, are the greatest gift for which the conservatives could ask. Mexico, Canada and Britain all find themselves under conservative rule as the center and left vote are split allowing the right to win control.

Sorry, but in countries without proportional voting systems a united front is needed to stop the regressives, like Stephen Harper, from winning.
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03:54 PM on 03/12/2012
Well, since the NDP now has the most seats, isn't it up to the Liberals to work with them?
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06:34 PM on 03/13/2012
It's just easier to take their Quebec seats than to try and deal with that orange ego.
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Kenneth T Tellis
11:08 PM on 03/11/2012
In what direction do you think the NDP will go if Thomas Mulcaire wins at the Leadership Convention? Why of course in the very same direction as the Bloc Kebecois, which means down the DRAIN!
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More speech. Less Flagging.
10:45 PM on 03/11/2012
The old guard cling to the fantastic notion that if they double down on the purity they'll somehow impress more than 20% of the electorate that sometimes actually votes for them. I can't think of anything more helpful to Stephen Harper and that, my friend, IS the definition of insanity.
10:40 PM on 03/11/2012
Cullen. He's the only one who can beat harper, vote any of the rest of them in and the cons will be in power for a very long time.
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10:55 PM on 03/11/2012
I agree.

Cullen has some brilliant ideas about how to unite the vote on the left and get rid of the ideologues.
01:31 AM on 03/14/2012
Agree.
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10:29 PM on 03/11/2012
We don't need someone who thinks that he should change his values just to get elected. If the NDP are unable to to be elected by sticking to their values then maybe its the messenger and not the message. Jack Layton was doing a wonderful and moral job before his death lets get someone who can do the same.