Vic Toews: Divorce Information Laws Under Debate After Minister's Split Splashed Across Twitter

Vic Toews Divorce

First Posted: 03/11/2012 10:57 am Updated: 03/13/2012 4:09 pm

OTTAWA - When details of Vic Toews' difficult divorce were splashed across Twitter, many Canadians shared a commiserating shudder with the public safety minister.

Those who've been through an ugly split involving litigation know some of the most intimate details of their lives are often contained in publicly accessible records.

That includes not just bitter affidavits but social insurance numbers, tax returns, mortgage statements, investment details — the list goes on. Even if a case is settled prior to going before a judge, the files remain.

Some family law and privacy experts suggest the time has come to change the way divorce records are handled.

Toews last week obtained a court order to see who had accessed his divorce file — parties to the litigation and journalists would not be listed. But that didn't change the public nature of the file itself.

Toronto-area lawyer Andrew Feldstein says one of his clients was ostracized by many friends after a divorce. Feldstein heard through the grapevine many of the couple's acquaintances went to take a look at the court filings.

"It also gives one side a very large advantage in the negotiation of the matrimonial dispute, because when you put something in a court file, it's subject to absolute privilege," Feldstein says.

"When the media goes and reads a court file, the media can say these are allegations contained in the court file. ... That means there's no ability to sue for slander or libel at the end of the day."

Fareen Jamal, another Toronto-area lawyer, says the openness of family court has roots in the years when individuals who committed a "marital offence," such as adultery, were essentially shamed through the process.

Until 1968, Canadians had to petition Parliament for a divorce, a very public and often embarrassing process.

Jamal says there's a school of thought that family law isn't even appropriate for the courts, where the openness is treated essentially the same as a criminal or civil case.

"It concerns me, because you're infringing on privacy rights. I think about the children," says Jamal.

"From a child's perspective, you've got these children, who will grow up and ... nobody asked them if they wanted their information public."

There's also the threat of identity theft with all that personal data accessible. In the United States, more court filings are going online, making it even easier to snoop.

Both Jamal and Feldstein say the identities of Canadians in family law cases should be protected, with letters or numbers assigned to their cases.

But other critics warn that would only undermine the concept of the open legal system, where the public — and the media by extension — is entitled to know what is going on.

Chris Waddell, director of Carleton University's School of Journalism and Communication, says the value of having the records remain public clearly outweighs the few times a couple's divorce files are perused.

"One thing that's important about politicians is their character. It's in the voter's interest to know the character of politicians, and this might be information that would help you determine the character of a politician," Waddell offers as an example.

Still, David Fewer of the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic at the University of Ottawa says a balance could be struck that provides a certain degree of anonymity to the litigants.

Fewer refers to the "practical obscurity" concept, that is, making it difficult to examine records by not putting them online, for example.

The centre is currently an intervener in a Supreme Court case where a minor allegedly defamed online is arguing for his or her identity to be protected.

"The default ought to be the open court principle, but you ought to be able to avail yourself of the anonymity test right away," Fewer says.

"So you file a statement of claim and you file with it a request to treat the matter anonymously, and here's the reasons why."

The tweets referring to Toews' divorce file were from an anonymous Twitter account. The Liberals eventually admitted that a staffer, Adam Carroll, was responsible for the Twitter revelations.

But the only person listed at the Winnipeg courthouse as having looked at the file was a provincial NDP employee who had a peek after the "Vikileaks" controversy broke.

The initial tweets were posted as a sort of retaliation for a new Conservative bill that would give law enforcement officials easier access to Internet records. Toews drew much public ire by suggesting those who opposed the bill stood with child pornographers.

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  • What's In Online-Snooping Bill

    Like similar legislation introduced in the past by both Conservative and Liberal governments, the new bill includes provisions that would: <em>With files from CBC</em> (Shutterstock)

  • Warantless Online Info

    Require telecommunications and internet providers to give subscriber data to police, national security agencies and the Competition Bureau without a warrant, including names, phone numbers and IP addresses. (CP)

  • Back Door Access

    Force internet providers and other makers of technology to provide a "back door" to make communications accessible to police. (Getty)

  • Location, Location, Location

    Allow police to get warrants to obtain information transmitted over the internet and data related to its transmission, including locations of individuals and transactions. (Alamy)

  • Preserve Data

    Allow courts to compel other parties to preserve electronic evidence. (Alamy)

  • New Bill Is Different

    However, unlike the most recent previous version of the bill, the new legislation: (Alamy)

  • Less Data

    Requires telecommunications providers to disclose, without a warrant, just six types of identifiers from subscriber data instead of 11. (Alamy)

  • Oversight

    Provides for an internal audit of warrantless requests that will go to a government minister and oversight review body. Minister of Public Safety Vic Toews is pictured. (CP)

  • Review After 5 Years

    Includes a provision for a review after five years. (Alamy)

  • More Time To Implement

    Allows telecommunications service providers to take 18 months instead of 12 months to buy equipment that would allow police to intercept communications. (Alamy)

  • Expanded Definitions

    Changes the definition of hate propaganda to include communication targeting sex, age and gender. (Alamy)

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walkerhds
11:19 AM on 03/13/2012
ok.. I can see redacting things like income figures and ID #s for the purpose of preventing ID theft. But the rest of it... If Vic wants unfettered access private computer files w/out probable cause and a warrant... his data is data just like anyone else's. and to quote the right wing, "if you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about"
11:51 PM on 03/12/2012
what about the children? are you serious? what a bunch of drool.
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01:04 PM on 03/12/2012
One can only hope Anon tears is life open. Sunlight is not terrorism. Get over yourself Toews. Your party is a criminal organisation and should be treated just like the mafia. You get zero empathy from me and hopeful none from every other Canadian you've been trying to rape digitally.
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01:03 PM on 03/12/2012
Toews wants to strip EVERY SINGLE canadian of their privacy rights. If he doesn't like it, tough.

He is a public figure who is proposing a law that would give the government the rights he is demanding be preserved just for him.
01:12 PM on 03/12/2012
Typical Con attitude: "Do as I say, not as I do."
11:49 AM on 03/12/2012
Can we go through just one issue without someone dragging out the tired excuse of "Won't someone think of the children"?

No, this isn't about the children. This is about you saving embarassment from your own dirty laundry being dragged out publicly.

That's already a valid enough reason to ask for this change, (and to ask for better protection when it comes to ALL personal privacy issues), but don't try and say you're doing it for someone else.
11:17 AM on 03/12/2012
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10:57 AM on 03/12/2012
Vic Teows got what he deserved for introducing bill C-30 which is about as diametrically opposed to conservatism as you can get. He got a taste of his own medicine and he's not man enough to take it. Now he's having a little tantrum that the details of his pathetic personal life are being shared with others without his knowledge or consent and without any sort of probable cause or judicial oversight.

Where in the last last election campaign did the Tories state that they intend to eviscerate the Charter of Rights?

Vic Teows thinks it's fine for the government to snoop the private lives of citizens, share the information between agencies, and make secret lists. All behind our backs and without the oversight of a judge issued warrant.

Suddenly you are not allowed to fly. Perhaps it was some keyword in an email or a "bad" website that you visited. Under Vic Teows great plan you will never know or have any chance for redress. Guilty guilty guilty - all behind your back. Vic Teows basically wants to set the Charter of Rights on fire.

My response to Vic Toews is this: Either you cherish the charter of rights or you are a closet totalitarian dictator.
07:55 AM on 03/13/2012
He and the other Harperites aren't closet dictators. They are quite open about their intent to rule as dictators.
10:16 AM on 03/12/2012
This is simply an illustration of what the government wants to be able to do to everyone. Not just this government, but EVERY government; past, present and future. Vic Toews would never have been able to comprehend the dangers of this legislation without a personal, and embarrassing example. Now he knows what access to personal information, without cause, is all about.
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walkerhds
11:21 AM on 03/13/2012
sadly, it doesn't look like he learned from the experience and drew the same conclusion you did.
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grizzly bear55
King of the forest
07:15 AM on 03/12/2012
People are not very smart, they attack the Public safety minister who will make sure that the records are sealed from now on.

I do not care why the man divorced and I am not interested in revenge, but knowing the conservatives, there are heads that will be rolling and a price to be pay for this act.

I hope he will take legal action against all the people involved.

I do not know anything about Mr. Toews, or what he did in his job to annoy some people, but to go after him in this fashion is quite low and making me wanting to vote for the conservatives yet I never vote in any election.
08:21 AM on 03/12/2012
You're joking, right? Must be. Gawd, it's so easy to miss humour sometimes. You ARE joking, though, right?

Yeah, you must be.

Whew! Almost gave a serious reply. How embarrassing that would have been.
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grizzly bear55
King of the forest
08:23 AM on 03/12/2012
You're a boy and I am a man, that is the difference.
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Taylor Jay
I don't align myself with any political party.
01:39 AM on 03/12/2012
over 80,000 facebook likes on openmedia.ca petition asking for vic toew to apologize to the people of canada. So there must be more than 100,000 actual signatures, whereis our apology Mr Toews
01:28 AM on 03/12/2012
Canadians commiserate with Grandpa Vic? Only the old geezers who chase teenage girls; the rest of us thought he was a pathetic hypocrite.
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Marg Wood
Peace
09:38 AM on 03/12/2012
When a politician enters public life, I for one would like to know what kind of a person he is! I would not vote for a person who thinks it's OK to cheat on his wife with the babysitter! He has no credibility! I would never vote conservative either!
12:15 AM on 03/12/2012
What a good idea, shield those that would lead from anyone seeing the real person.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
12:05 AM on 03/12/2012
"""When details of Vic Toews' difficult divorce were splashed across Twitter, many Canadians shared a commiserating shudder with the public safety minister."""

Don't be ridiculous. He was pounding Canadians to share ALL their information or else we were child pornographers, then ALL information was outed on him and he was outed as a lame husband and Arnold devotee. It's called poetic justice... right to the "Justice" minister's face.

Missed that huh?
03:56 AM on 03/12/2012
Arnold didn't target a 21 year old. He also didn't use his office to appoint a former lover as a judge.
yer
Stop the Alberta Taliban
07:28 PM on 03/12/2012
agreed. Toews is much worse
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Whistlejackett
Hey stop doing that
08:57 PM on 03/11/2012
This man is attempting to change Canadians lives beyond recognition and so he should be scrutinized from bottom to top. He needs to stop whining and defending himself. I actually think he should step down along with his Bill C-30 and others.