Liberal Robocalls In Guelph Let Tories Go On Offensive

First Posted: 03/12/2012 5:29 pm Updated: 05/12/2012 5:12 am


Conservative MPs have seized an opportunity to push back on the robocalls controversy after a Liberal MP admitted his campaign made an automated call of its own that didn't identify who paid for it.


Frank Valeriote, who was re-elected in Guelph, Ont., May 2, 2011, confirmed that one of his campaign volunteers made a robocall before the election that told people to vote Liberal because the Conservative candidate was anti-abortion. Valeriote said he approved the call and admitted the volunteer who placed the call gave a fake name.


Conservative MP Dean Del Mastro said in question period Monday that the calls were dishonest.


"We now know that the member for Guelph, Mr. Speaker, in fact paid for illegal robocalls that concealed the fact that the calls came from his Liberal campaign. They used a bogus number, Mr. Speaker, a fictitious character, they broke the CRTC regulations, they broke Elections Canada laws," said Del Mastro, parliamentary secretary to Prime Minister Stephen Harper.


Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre, responding to a question by interim NDP Leader Nycole Turmel, demanded Valeriote apologize.


Campaign advertising


According to the Elections Act, campaigns must identify who paid for advertising. The law doesn't specifically mention robocalls, but a spokesman for Elections Canada, asked whether the Valeriote campaign call was legal, pointed to the rules for campaign advertising.


The Liberals say Elections Canada has interpreted robocalls differently in the past. In a news release, the party said the agency last spring said on its website that live or automated messages sent to specific phone numbers and email addresses don't count as advertising.


Valeriote says the call doesn't qualify as advertising because it was clarifying his pro-choice position.


"This was a legal, issue-based called directed to a certain group of people who have been misinformed throughout Guelph about my position on abortion over a number of days, leading up to the call on Saturday," he said after question period.


He also said the call isn't advertising because it tells people to vote strategically, not to vote Liberal.


"Not at all, it was issue based, setting out where [Conservative candidate Marty Burke] stood on the issue and yes, common with the theme I carried throughout the campaign, vote strategically. I was encouraging people to vote, but that’s not advertising. It’s an issue," Valeriote said.


A recording of the call, made available by a Conservative supporter last Friday, features a woman saying Burke "believes that under absolutely no circumstance should a woman have the right to choose."


"The race in Guelph is very close. Vote strategically on Monday to protect our hard-earned rights from the Conservatives and Marty's extreme views," the voice said.


Guelph was also the target of illegal calls on May 2 claiming to be from Elections Canada. The calls redirected voters to the wrong polling station. An Elections Canada investigator has traced the calls to the campaign of Conservative candidate Marty Burke, according to documents filed in court.


Opposition demands inquiry, royal commission


Elections Canada also announced Monday that the majority of the 31,000 contacts they received from the public over election calls came from automated forms like those on the website of LeadNow, which is calling for a public inquiry.


The agency doesn't yet have hard numbers on how many of the contacts were complaints of illegal calls. A spokesman for Elections Canada said the contacts were variously from voters submitting complaints, messages expressing concern and questions about the issue, while others were following up previous complaints.


Meanwhile, the NDP kept up demands for a public inquiry and interim Liberal Leader Bob Rae called for a royal commission to look into allegations of voter suppression.


NDP MP David Christopherson said the number of specific complaints doesn't diminish the issue's importance.


"Is it any less shocking if the headline was 15,000 people may have had a phoney call?" he said. "Would that make it any less serious if it was only 15,000? I don’t think so. This is fraud. This is our electoral system."


Defending the calls made by Valeriote's campaign, Rae said a royal commission could look at how technology like robocalls, or automated dialing, are used in election campaigns.


"There is nothing inappropriate in giving a vigorous response or in having a robocall that gives a vigorous response with respect to a specific issue like abortion or like capital punishment," Rae said.


Draws distinction


He also drew a distinction between the Liberal call that didn't identify the caller or who paid for it, and the voter suppression calls.


"Let’s not try to establish some kind of moral equivalence between these two things because there is none. And let’s be clear about that," Rae said.


MPs voted 283-0 Monday night to approve a non-binding motion to support giving Elections Canada more power to investigate campaign spending. The motion calls on the government to bring in legislation in the next six months to let the election agency demand receipts from political parties for election spending. Right now, candidates have to provide receipts but parties don't.


The motion also calls for telecommunications centres that do voter identification to register with Elections Canada.


Now it's up to the government to follow up with legislation to implement the motion's objectives.


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ProgressiveCDN
A Progressive Moderate
11:45 AM on 03/13/2012
The symbolic vote is unanimous... Let's wait and see how far the actual legislation goes.
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
09:40 AM on 03/13/2012
Del Mastro's been put on the line to block suspicion from getting through to Harper.

That should tell you who's really behind the Conservative attacks on Canadian voters.

Why is the control freak himself not willing to be up front on this subject?
09:38 AM on 03/13/2012
Interesting how conservatives are up in arms about this. It's as though they are too dense to realize the more noise they make about this, the worse their much bigger scandal looks.
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hg wells
09:27 AM on 03/13/2012
robocalls are perfectly legal as long as they provide accurate information.
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
08:52 AM on 03/13/2012
Muddy the Waters Del Mastro is the King of Insincerity.

Only the stupidest of the stupid would not realize it was conservatives who lied on their robocalls when they said they were Elections Canada. And tried to direct Liberal supporters to non existant polling stations.

Elections Canada has actually filed documents in court saying the Guelph campaign of conservative Marty Burke did exactly that.
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Nathan Ottenson
The Christian Right are neither
02:53 AM on 03/13/2012
The Conservative party of Canada exploit stupidity.

If you can't tell the difference between these robocalls your stupid, and therefore this strategy might actually work.
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TonyOnly
Truth matters.
08:55 AM on 03/13/2012
If it works, the spelling of our name should be forever changed to Canaduh.
10:56 PM on 03/12/2012
If anyone is under the impression that the CPC are not the focus of the Elections Canada investigation, they must read the investigator's sworn affidavit, available at:

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/321511-robocall-search-warrant-1-003.html#document/p1

Please refer to paragraph 64, which includes the following:

“... I think it is reasonable to believe that some sort of customer relationship existed between the Marty Burke Conservative campaign in Guelph for the 41st general election and Racknine Inc., or between certain Burke campaign workers and Racknine Inc.; that this relationship was related to the general election campaign in Guelph; and that the relationship related to the misleading calls made to Guelph area electors which they perceived as coming from the phone number 450-760-7746.”

No, this is not proof. But if you read the preceding pages in that document, you will see that the investigator has done his homework. If his facts are correct, I would be very surprised if electon fraud charges against the CPC do not arise from this investigation.
10:55 PM on 03/12/2012
ww
10:38 PM on 03/12/2012
Del Mastro is obviously a despicable character. It's because of scub-bags like him that I no longer watch parliament in action - he disgusts me.
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BUTCHER99
10:20 PM on 03/12/2012
another attempt to deflect. The Liberal calls have already been declared above board. Although for some reason the members name was left off the calls the were not illegal.
Nice try Cons.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
09:01 PM on 03/12/2012
10:26 pm Newfoundland Standard Time....still no word on Pierre Poutine, just more recycling of the rebranding of this outrage as "Robocalls Scandal" - allowing the Tories to play word/definition games - and not calling it what it is - the Electoral Fraud Scandal, the Voter Suppression Scandal. The more HuffPo and the rest of the Establishment Media continue to pretend this is only about robocalls, and not what those robocalls WERE DOING.

The Tory pretense is that a fatal hit and run is the same thing as a speeding ticket. And now I've heard the recording, the woman speaking identifies HERSELF and her perspective before asking people to not vote for Marty Burke. I's not like it was "hey Tory voter, your polling station has been relocated to the other side of the riding".

CBC's endless series of deflectionary talkshows claimed that "political traction" on this has dropped since last week - well, no wonder, given the degree the media have soft-soaped it in the course of delivery the misleading Tory message over and over again, without critical comments to put those lies in their place (the garbage can).

Robocalls aren't the problem Robojournalism IS....now, anyway.
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
09:44 PM on 03/12/2012
Very well said. This is a smoke/mirrors/blustery obfuscation/talking point in lieu of argument. As events unfold we may actually see just how the CPC discussions on dirty tricks at the Manning Centre were manifested into action.
08:33 PM on 03/12/2012
Robocalls?
The Dalek Khan did not authorize this contact with the human species!!
Exterminate! Exterminate!
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Jason Bullock
08:32 PM on 03/12/2012
So saying thatthe Cons are against abortion is dishonest? What about directing people to fake polling stations?

What am I thinking...? These are the Cons, masters of the double standard, and skewed reality.
10:48 PM on 03/12/2012
From what I gathered, the "message" wasn't illegal... hiding who was behind the "message" was...

Ho well, then they will act all surprise when the turn out at the next election is even lower... and they'll get upset over Canadians be cynical about politic!
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The Canadian
Stop Harper
08:02 PM on 03/12/2012
I don't approve of Mr. Valeriote's campaign using illegal robocalls, if the allegations are true. So it is proper for the Conservatives to be upset about it and call for an investigation by Elections Canada.

BUT.

Given this, then why are the Conservatives doing everything humanly possible to stop an Elections Canada and RCMP investigation into the robocalls involving their party?

Let's not lose sight of one hugely important fact in the Conservative's bluster about Mr. Valeriote's so-called scandal: these robocall violations are NOT equivalent, not be a mile. Calling Mr' Valeriote's calls equivalent to those that might have been done by the Conservatives is like saying that someone who committed vandalism by breaking a window is guilty of the same crime as someone who tried to burn down the entire neighbourhood.

The people of Canada want their elections run cleanly. No monkey business by either side. But if the Conservatives want Elections Canada to come down hard on the Liberals for Mr. Valeriote's actions during the campaign, then they have absolutely no reason or right to deny an investigation into the robocalls that tried to subvert our election in their favour.
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
09:50 PM on 03/12/2012
The differences seem to be that the Liberal robocall was legitimate, and so not illegal, according to ElexCda. The actions of the Libs were legit.

The CPC's DurdeeTrix™ Brand Robocalls were not.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
07:56 PM on 03/12/2012
So the Harper Reform Party has grabbed an old Goebbels trick! Make it a big lie and repeat over and over again.

Also, like in the past, use a big pompous...to take the lead in delivering the message. Goering did it in his time, Bairds done it before, now Del Mastro gets his chance at the big party role.

Funny the Liberals have been admitting their mistakes. EC has even cleared them of these calls that Harper Reform keep espousing as serious election fraud - its not serious and not fraud, its a minor offense in comparison. The calls did not suppress one citizen unlike Peirre Poutine who suppressed thousands of Canadians.

So Harper, how about those robocalls that were used to commit felony fraud by denying Canadian citizens their lawful right to cast votes for the QUEENS LOYAL opposition? Got something to hide? Already know the answers? Seems like it.

Royal Commission NOW!

Do not let freedom and good government fall in Canada!

V of Victory!!