Adam Carroll: Vikileaker And Former Liberal Staffer Still Too Sick To Appear At Commons Committee

Adam Carroll Vikileaks

First Posted: 03/14/2012 3:04 pm Updated: 03/16/2012 9:22 am

OTTAWA - A former Liberal party staffer who quit after posting a cabinet minister's divorce details online is again putting off an appearance before a House of Commons committee.

Adam Carroll had been expected to testify before the ethics committee Thursday about his role in the Twitter account Vikileaks.

He was supposed to appear earlier this week but was ill and the committee decided they'd issue a summons for his return.

But in a letter to committee members, his lawyer says Carroll is still too sick to attend.

The letter says Carroll isn't refusing an invitation to appear before MPs and will eventually testify, as he wants to bring the issue to a close.

"However, this appearance will be by invitation, not compulsion," said the letter from lawyer Paul Champ.

In the letter, Champ contends the committee had no jurisdiction to formally summon Carroll after he failed to appear earlier this week.

The Tory-dominated committee had called Carroll to testify after an investigation by the House of Commons suggested he was using parliamentary resources to post Public Safety Minister Vic Toews' divorce details via Twitter.

The account was set up in the wake of the introduction of an online surveillance bill that would give authorities expanded powers to gain people's Internet information — drawing the ire of critics who said it was too intrusive.

While the divorce records were already in the public domain, using the Commons computer to distribute them may have violated acceptable-use policies.

Carroll had quit his job once he was identified as the source of the account and Liberal Leader Bob Rae apologized to Toews in the Commons.

As a result, the Speaker of the House of Commons declared the matter closed.

For that reason, the committee has no real authority to be studying the issue, Champ wrote.

"As a consequence of Mr. Rae’s apology and the Speaker’s ruling, the matter of the Vikileaks30 account was found not to be a prima facie violation of privilege and was not referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs for inquiry," the letter says.

"The Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics Committee is clearly attempting to sneak in through the back door an inquiry into Vikileaks30 contrary to the Speaker's ruling on this matter."

Tory MP Dean Del Mastro, who led the charge to have Carroll appear at committee was unavailable to comment.

On Tuesday, Del Mastro had said a doctor's note was required to give Carroll permission not to appear.

The committee's next steps on the matter are unclear. The meeting scheduled for Thursday has now been moved entirely in camera, meaning any discussion of the issue won't be public.

Members could ask the Speaker to issue a warrant to compel Carroll's testimony, if they don't accept the doctor's letter that Champ said he is working to obtain.

But, Champ stressed, Carroll does intend to appear at some point.

"As previously indicated, (Carroll) remains willing to voluntarily appear and respect the invitation that was originally extended to him on March 8, 2012," the letter said.

"Ultimatums and threats without legal foundation are unnecessary, undignified and abusive."

While the Speaker had ruled the Vikileaks account wasn't a breach of privilege, he had declared that a series of videos targeting Toews and posted by activist group Anonymous did constitute a breach.

The videos were part of what Toews had said were a broader campaign of threats against him following the introduction of the Internet surveillance bill.

A different committee in the Commons will begin a discussion of that issue Thursday.

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10:31 PM on 03/14/2012
Exercise one's right to free speech by tweeting embarrassing but factual information about an MP's personal conduct found in public records that are freely accessible to anyone and their dog? "The Liberals are smearing us! We demand an inquiry!" cry the Tories.

Use a phone number registered under a fake name and address to conduct a massive illegal robocall campaign aimed at suppressing Canadians' constitutional right to vote? "We refuse to call an inquiry! The Liberals are smearing us!" cry the Tories.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
10:57 PM on 03/14/2012
Often known as the old shell game, here being played with rotten coconuts. Really rotten, really nutty, coconuts.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
11:01 PM on 03/14/2012
Otherwise known as the old shell game, though here played with rotten coconuts. Really rotten, really nutty, coconuts. Now you see it, now you don't etc.
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cameron d
Good Guys Win
10:19 PM on 03/14/2012
Everything he "leaked" was a public document. He committed no crime. He resigned. No need to drag him in. It's a waste of time.
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SeanMartin
Everything in moderation.
11:08 PM on 03/14/2012
Ah, but it makes great political theatre — which just happens to be something else the Tories learned from their GOP counterparts across the border.
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cameron d
Good Guys Win
11:20 PM on 03/14/2012
I hope he never shows up.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
08:41 AM on 03/16/2012
a parliamentary committee being used as a kangaroo court is an abuse of the constitution....as Carroll's lawyer has in fact pointed out.
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Ryan L Painter
Activist, friend to labour, blogger, progressive
08:52 PM on 03/14/2012
Just a note for people who might be interested. Head on over to CBC.ca and ready @Kady post wherein she includes the letter from Paul Champ, noted human rights lawyer, regarding the sate of Carroll's health and why the committee seeking to summon Carroll is overstepping it's bounds. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inside-politics-blog/2012/03/vikileaks30-update-mr-carrolls-lawyer-regrets.html
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
05:57 PM on 03/15/2012
Carroll's lawyer says the summons is "unlawful, disrespectful and abusive" - why isn't this given headline space on this rag, or on the other major media?

Why? Conservative-aligned editors, that's why.

Look at the tabloid headlines on the HP or anything else today. All this is being dumbed down and smothered with meaningless pillowtalk-coverage about GARBAGE, including the shirtless boxing pics from Trudeau and Brazeau.

The Canadian people aren't stupid even though our media treat them that way...and it's WHY they watch and read other media than our own; there's nothing of use in ours. Nothing with a sense of proportion, only one spin-doctoring spew of punditry after another.

"unlawful, disrespectful and abusive"

Pretty much sums up the Tory regime, and in many ways the major media, too.
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Ryan L Painter
Activist, friend to labour, blogger, progressive
07:46 PM on 03/15/2012
@HuffPostCanada has been a real disappointment. Look at how progressive and informative it's sister is in the US and yet up north it's nothing more then a Conservative rag, a tabloid, something used to smear progressives. It's really disgusting and shows the lack of coverage news get's up here.
07:38 PM on 03/14/2012
Poor, poor adulterous, pedophaelic, snoopy, lazy Vic Toews. How can such thin skin be stretched across such a thick skull?
08:57 PM on 03/14/2012
Now, now, posterboy.

If a prominent Liberal MP would have been the target and the smear campaign originated in the PMO, you'd have had your hair on fire for weeks.
09:22 PM on 03/14/2012
First of all, Harley, there'd have to actually BE a prominent Liberal MP. lol

I can see how you might come to that conclusion, Harley. To be fair, though, you'd have to agree that in the three weeks or so that I've been here, only one party has really presented itself as a target. I've been outraged with members of each party when warranted. Just not a lot to comment on with the Liberals. Unless you include Justin Trudeau. I don't really think of him as a serious or meaningful influence on things Parliament, neither within nor outside the party, though. In other words, when he starts to matter, I'll likely have something to say. 'Til then, well, why would I bother?

Just be patient, Harley. You'll eventually see me stomp along with you when the time comes.

Besides, I'm bald. ;)
10:05 PM on 03/14/2012
I might be angry if a smear campaign was directed at a Liberal, yes. This, however, was not a smear campaign. This was in bad taste, yes, but the information posted was not private, or untrue, or even that big a deal for that matter. So Vic got divorced, why should I care? It doesn't affect me. What does affect me, however, was the bill Vic was proposing. Considering he wanted to know how much porn I watch in the privacy of my own home, what's the big deal with us knowing a few things about him?
05:53 PM on 03/14/2012
this is almost a public inquiry ------where is the public inquiry the public wants -----
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Hal Wood
05:48 PM on 03/14/2012
This may be the first time he was caught , I think the big story is the Tamils voting fraud to elect an NDP , apparently the people hired at the polling stations were complicent, People with party alliances usually get these jobs.
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
06:49 PM on 03/14/2012
Wrong scandal. This is the Viki leaks not the Robo calls.
05:44 PM on 03/14/2012
make them forward their questions to you in writing ---and respond in kind
05:48 PM on 03/14/2012
or better still have them tweet you
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Nathan Ottenson
The Christian Right are neither
05:42 PM on 03/14/2012
Could we possibly quit spending our tax dollars investigating this non issue. Adam Carroll may have shown some poor judgement but he did not commit any crime and has already resigned. What exactly are we expected to gain from a further investigation? Couldn't the people we've elected to lead this country go back to dealing with issues that matter to Canadians?
10:06 PM on 03/14/2012
Amen. Couldn't say it any better or clearer.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
12:09 AM on 03/16/2012
Adam Carroll showed only poor judgement in not heading to a web cafe to tweet.......what he did, politically, was on-target, and had the desired effect. Shaming Toews into backing down, and exposing him for the hypocritical fraud he is.....

I imagine he used his own phone, also; he could have turned off the WIFI and just used 3G, so not used the parliamentary network.

How many of the posts that show up here come from parliamentary servers, I wonder? We know in BC, from bloggers who keep track of IP origins, that many posts on forums there came from BC government offices in the basement of the Leg...but misuse of public resources is stock-in-trade in Canada; witness the propagandistic tones of the economic policy commercials and things like the Olympics, paid for by the public dime...
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turkeylurky
Just keepin it real........
05:30 PM on 03/14/2012
If he were to testify, he may be compelled to point to higher ups in the Party who may have been involved in this - and it's better for his health to be "sick" than to name one or more of the Liberal clan's capofamiglias..
You can be pretty sure that Rae (aka the "consigliere") has had a chat with him.
05:51 PM on 03/14/2012
did he do anything illegal
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Ryan L Painter
Activist, friend to labour, blogger, progressive
08:54 PM on 03/14/2012
He didn't and the Speaker has already ruled the issue closed as Bob Rae came forward and took responsibility AND apologized. Of course, the CPC are hungry for SOMETHING to divert attention from Robocon. Also, remember when government ministers were going to present themselves to committee and not staffers? Guess this only applied to #CPC.
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
06:52 PM on 03/14/2012
But... nothign he did was illegal. Or even hard... or bright.
Scummy, sure. Unethical, probally. But every bit of information he realeased over twitter was public knowlage and already on record.

If the Liberal wanted Viks dirty laundry aired in public they'd just go and have the Toronto Star publish it.

Are you thinking of the other scandal in Ottawa now prehaps?
05:19 PM on 03/14/2012
This is a red herring, intended to distract from the larger robocall issue.

Nothing Mr. Carroll tweeted was untrue. He resigned his position, not only for the political faux pas, but also for breaching Commons use of computurs policies.

On princi;e, I'd like the see the Liberal Party fund a legal challenge to the summons, as it is bully tactics designed solely for political theatre.
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05:10 PM on 03/14/2012
Don't shoot the messenger.
I say summon the babysitter to see if this Carroll guy was accurate. Then bring in the judge he promoted to see if Anonymous got the details right. I see a possible mini-series here.
I'm sure Vic would go for that....
05:04 PM on 03/14/2012
My friend and I play this game where we see how many hot-button terrorist keywords we can randomly say on our cellphones in a conversation. The winner is the one whose door gets kicked in first by the government goon squad. Bonus points if you get tasered or make the evening news.
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turkeylurky
Just keepin it real........
05:19 PM on 03/14/2012
Hope you win - we're rooting for you....
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
04:44 PM on 03/14/2012
I was referring to Toes
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
04:41 PM on 03/14/2012
Sick? Disgusting is more accurate...
04:26 PM on 03/14/2012
Hmm...might be considering some revelations about high-up influence and guidance in the Liberal Party?

Helloooooo....Mr. Rae.
08:14 PM on 03/14/2012
i hope you didnt take a saw with you, way out on that limb
08:23 PM on 03/14/2012
Couldn't be a bigger or sharper one than you guys are using on the robo-call deal.