Inky Mark: Voter ID System Triggered Misgivings, Says Former Tory MP


First Posted: 03/15/2012 3:58 pm Updated: 05/15/2012 5:12 am

OTTAWA - Inky Mark was always a bit of an outsider inside the Conservative caucus.

The former Manitoba MP, popular in his riding, wasn't interested in abiding by the party's message control and usually kept a low profile, sometimes not even attending caucus.

Mark now says he also opted out of the party's controversial voter identification system, or CIMS, out of similar concerns about the power the party wielded at the local level.

"If they get mad at you and don't want you to access your own data, you're done," Mark said.

"I figured that out right off the bat and said I don't want to be under their control, so I just quit basically."

The selection of Canadians for phone calls that misdirected them to erroneous or non-existent polling stations during the last election is a key element of the voter-suppression affair.

There's no evidence the Conservatives or any other party was engaged in voter suppression, but questions have been raised about the systems they use for pinpointing and contacting voters.

Mark says every time he or his staff would meet a constituent and get their phone number, they were expected to log the information and any pertinent details, including the individual's political leanings and personal interests.

He says the party had control over the entire, nationwide database. An MP and his staff were at the mercy of headquarters, Mark says, because they had the power to allocate and revoke database passwords.

"I always have thought independently, even with (election) signage at home," Mark says.

"I always knew that I had to do my own thing, because ... they can control you 100 per cent, and that's exactly what happened with CIMS."

A young Conservative staffer has recently been fighting suggestions that he's behind misleading calls placed in a Guelph, Ont., riding during last spring's election. Michael Sona, who worked on the local Conservative campaign, has said he had nothing to do with the calls.

The opposition has suggested Sona could not have had the level of technological sophistication and authority to pull off a series of robocalls.

Mark has been in retirement since losing a mayoralty race in Dauphin, Man., in October 2010. He caused some waves when a short time afterward he suggested the Conservative party was handling the nomination process in his riding in an undemocratic way.

He said he ran his campaigns in a fairly traditional fashion, choosing not to make use of CIMS.

"I always believed you live and die by your track record."

The Conservative party did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
12:55 PM on 03/18/2012
The server has logs and shows who logged in and did what. If these logs are tampered with then its just like Richard Nixons missing 15 minutes. It denotes guilt at a very high level in the Harper Reform Party.
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Warren Yuill
Jesus Built My Hot-Rod
06:45 PM on 03/16/2012
Occidentaly tic-tac.
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Tyler Austin
Women = people. Corperations ≠ people.
11:45 AM on 03/16/2012
In the mafia there's levels of control too. The guys at the top give the orders, broadly, and the underlins give more specific ones and the next down and so on. It means that the only specifics given are to the lowest level soilders who cannot point the figner at anyone more then a single level above them.
Harper and his cabniet are telling the truth when they say they don't know *how* this happened, technicly they're correct. But when they say they had no idea it wa, or was about to, happen they're lying through thier teeth.

But we can't prove it unless someone in the PMO grows a conscious. Considering that Policitcs in Canada is more like a hockey game with a single blind Linesman and palyed more out of distaste for your 'enemies' rather then the good of us all I really doubt anyone will ever be punished for these crimes.
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
11:58 AM on 03/16/2012
Harper's economic and statistical training would give him plenty of ideas how to achieve this. Your cogent analysis provides a clearer picture of the command structure and flow of ideas.

This will sink Harper and the CPC.

Conscience?

Racknine “Adding final servers for the political super-weapon.” http://goo.gl/biFeU

Front Porch Pres in Fantino's office. http://goo.gl/89TwE

Del Mastro makes robocalls http://goo.gl/JC7e9

Wikipedia/ArrowDebreu http://goo.gl/pLxWE
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4evercanadian
Still my guitar gently weeps
10:11 AM on 03/16/2012
This isn't the first time this database has been in the news. And there are a number of good articles that can be found by googling "CIMS voter database":

http://tinyurl.com/76ggfly
http://tinyurl.com/84fj9vc
http://tinyurl.com/73s9bk4
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
01:19 PM on 03/18/2012
Excellent links to finding out about Harper's evil database. These guys are creeps, predators, and sick. Is it any wonder that they want to be able to read everyone's emails, listen to their conversations, and track everyone's movements without warrants or cause.

Canada has clearly slipped to a second rate democracy or worse. In the next election we need independant international observers to monitor as the authorities can no longer be trusted.
07:58 AM on 03/16/2012
At least some people are talking and not protecting the corrupted as this always leads to trouble in lotusland.
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Liz Wilson 2
“a small group can change the world
07:32 AM on 03/17/2012
still amazed by all those who will not speak. I wonder if the denial of access to their own data base is one of the reasons
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
11:55 AM on 03/18/2012
or threats to their post-politics livelihood should they speak up/quit.
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Liz Wilson 2
“a small group can change the world
05:20 AM on 03/16/2012
I suspect that great pains will be taken to protect the database.

Someone, from another pos, suggested that the best way to protect our democracy would be to indicate that you a conservative and then vote for the another party
11:32 AM on 03/16/2012
What a brilliant idea. Let's spread this idea: everybody lie about voting intentions when asked. Frankly, I don't see how anybody benefits from telling pollsters how they intend to exercise their franchise. Parties of all stripes use this information in lieu of proper policy creation. Or they use it to manipulate us.

Let's take away their crutch - make their weapon unuseable. CIMS depends strongly - although hardly completely - on our direct responses to polling questions.

Screw the Conservatives by doing the same thing they do to us: saying that we're behind them and then showing we're not.

Funny how someone who doesn't rely on stats, as Harper has said more than once, relies on CIMS so much. Friggin' liar.

Besides, polling has become somewhat of a substitute for actually listening to constituents. Destroying polling (I know, I know) would necessitate greater personal interaction between representatives and voters.

Maybe a Twitter campaign?
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Add In Canadia
Egotism is a weakness
02:17 AM on 03/16/2012
A little bit more light shed on the subject, looking like whoever has ties or access to this database could be in trouble in the future. Probably is going to require some more conservatives with a conscience to step forward. (Insert obvious dig of "Good luck with that, none of them have a conscience")
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Liz Wilson 2
“a small group can change the world
07:35 AM on 03/16/2012
So far we have found four- maybe five conservatives that have shown real Canadain qualities. The three that resigned from the Fatino executive, Inky has given us some real insight into the control conservative MPs are under. clearly they cannot serve their constituents when they are serving the master instead - (yes, I am looking at you Rob Bruinoogie), and possibly Sona has more ethics than I originally gave him credit for having.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
11:17 PM on 03/15/2012
Sona didn't do it or wasn't involved without the support and direction of some people way above him in the party. In order to pull this off there needed to be people with server/database superuser rights. You see, to any party those voter records are absolute gold and the more current they are the more they are worth. Each record being super valuable they are highly protected from mass dumping and unwarranted usage. That's how business, government and NGO protect them. In the right hands it can be used to get out the voter, make money, get out a legit message, but in the wrong hands its can be used to manipulate, harrass, oppress, and supress. Mr.Sona would need programming skills to make this all work, skills he doesn't have. He also would NOT have access to the system at the level necessay to retrieve the data in mass. I seriously doubt he can querry the database using SQL language and make a mass calling list. He would then have to send that data to to an automated telephone system which makes use of sophisiticated scripts to customize and tailor the message to the three main types of voters: supporters, independants, and the enemy. No this is watergate. Harper do you have a "plumbers group" working in your organization? Look up G. Gordon Liddy folks.
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Skookum1
truth can't be bought, but lies sure can be sold..
12:14 PM on 03/18/2012
The squirming from the sandbaggers on another thread has tried to deflect your points by coming up with complicated ways the data might have been compromised without party involvement. Occam's Razor applies, simplicity is truth - and in politics, optics IS truth. It doesn't matter HOW the data was compromised, it matters that it WAS compromised, and our election with it. IF it was compromised - rather than willfully exploited by party brass, using proxies on a "need to know, deny all" basis......elaborate "explanations" from the Tory claque around here are no better than the wild allegations of some kind of conspiracy by the Liberals or some unknown party. It doesn't matter WHO or HOW, what matters is WHAT HAPPENED.

Which was a compromised election, and which needs to be re-called. Screw an inquiry, dissolve Parliament and start over. This time with international observers.....
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
01:06 PM on 03/18/2012
I agree, the bottom line is this. The election was compromised and therego the results are bogus and a new election is needed no matter who's to blame. In the very least byelections are needed now since we do know that a massive campaign of fraud has occurred accross the country in many ridings.

As it stands Harper is not a legitimate government.
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Spanky McFarlane
ILLEGITIMUS NON CARBORUNDUM.
10:36 PM on 03/15/2012
Inky is spot on. The grassroots in Rob Anders riding were banned from having him 'win' the rtght to run as Tory HQ rammed their choice down their throats saying no one has the right to0 challenge an incumbent.

Welcome to Harperland.
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Liz Wilson 2
“a small group can change the world
07:36 AM on 03/16/2012
I think you are spot on with this comment too. The idea that the candidate needs to be someone loyal to the leader regardless of the will of the constituents.
11:58 AM on 03/16/2012
I realize that this is slightly off from where the conversation is headed but, Liz, wondering about the fact that most Canadians tend to vote based on the leader and party as opposed to the individual candidate. In that case, wouldn't such loyalty be somewhat appropriate? Personally, it's a difficult and certainly not clear, area to me.