Rae Hits Back Against Tory Attack Ad

First Posted: 03/19/2012 9:05 pm Updated: 03/21/2012 7:26 am


Bob Rae was as much responsible for freeing Nelson Mandela and the end of the Soviet Union as for what happened to Ontario's economy when he was premier, the interim Liberal leader said Monday in response to a new Conservative attack ad.


There was a serious recession in North America when he became Ontario's NDP premier in 1990, Rae said during an interview Monday with Evan Solomon, host of CBC's Power & Politics


"What are [the Conservatives] saying — that somehow there's a serious recession that affects Ontario [and] I'm uniquely responsible for that, but somehow I can't take credit for good things that happen? Nelson Mandela got out of jail, the entire Soviet Union collapsed — why wouldn't they give me credit for that?" Rae said.


"They're laying every single conceivable economic problem at my doorstep. Surely I’m allowed to say, 'well, let's look at some of the good things that happened as well.'


"There are things they omitted. For example, they fail to mention the fact that the Blue Jays won the World Series twice when I was premier. They could have mentioned that," Rae said.


The Conservative Party released two ads online on Monday, the day of a byelection in Toronto-Danforth, which came open when former NDP leader Jack Layton died of cancer in August, 2011. One is the anti-Rae ad; the other is an ad about Prime Minister Stephen Harper's record. They're expected to air on television on Tuesday.


'Change the channel'


Citizenship and Immigration Minister Jason Kenney defended the ads, saying Rae has invited the debate and is acting like he wants to be leader. Kenney said Rae's record as Ontario premier was an unmitigated disaster.


"The political debate doesn't just happen every four years. It happens every single day," he said on Power & Politics With Evan Solomon.


"I don't think it's a perpetual campaign. It is a perpetual democratic debate."


Rae said the ad seems to be meant to "change the channel" away from the controversy over fraudulent election calls in which opposition MPs say the Conservatives launched a co-ordinated campaign to suppress votes across the country.


"The only thing I find interesting is here they’re coming after me — the interim leader of the third party three years before an election starts," Rae said. "So you have to ask yourself the question, why exactly would they be doing that? What exactly are they afraid of at this point in their mandate?"


Rae says the Liberal party will fight back against the attack ad.


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09:23 PM on 03/21/2012
Ok, we all know about 'rea days' (mostly because it rymes) but how did any OTHER provinces do in the early 1990s?
Anyone?
Bueller?

Fact is they ALL lost money and jobs and income because it was a global ressession, not Canada wide and not provincial.

Do we mock the then leaders of Quebec or Alberta for "thier" role in it? of course not! This is a oppertunistic attackat it's worst.- and it'll work.
09:15 PM on 03/21/2012
Bob Rae is to blame for the global crash i nthe 1990's? Sure, why not? Is Harper to blame for the recent world downturn?

Rae kept more people in work then almost anyone else would have and thus migated the damage.
Blame a fireman for not putting out the fire fast enough or the arsonist.

Unfortunitly these kind of attack adds will work because Canadians are dumb.
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10:01 PM on 03/20/2012
I find the attack ads appalling, School tactics grow up people it just shows are leaders are insecure. As a voter Stephen Harper step down not trusted servant. Why wait to the next election to dismiss him, Leave now please
08:42 PM on 03/20/2012
Mr. Rae's statement is worth repeating:

"The only thing I find interesting is here they’re coming after me — the interim leader of the third party three years before an election starts," Rae said. "So you have to ask yourself the question, why exactly would they be doing that? What exactly are they afraid of at this point in their mandate?"
07:16 PM on 03/20/2012
the one and out reformer /conservatives are clearly getting nervous -------

rae is not even the leader yet and he is recognized as a threat ------

but when your government is incompetent ---all opposition is a threat
compro01
Conservatism : Policy-based evidence making
10:38 AM on 03/22/2012
Rae isn't the leader yet and will never be the leader. He's explicitly barred from running for the leadership as part of the agreement he made to become the interim leader.
05:25 PM on 03/20/2012
The video on Youtube had so many "thumbs down" ratings that the CPC disabled ratings for this video. That says it all. If you don't like them, they ignore you.
04:24 PM on 03/20/2012
Simply put - Bob Rae is pathetic.
He lied to his own party about running for the leadership, will he now lie to Canadians about other things? Either way, he has to commit yes/no if he is, as his own party is being held hostage by him.
The party inside fighting is just beginning. Mulcair of the NDP will come out the winner in Quebec, no question.
Support for the NDP in Quebec will drop like a lead balloon, as indications are slowly taking shape as we speak.
By the time the next election takes place, their numbers will be significantly depleted.
And the Liberals - just a faded memory.
The writing is on the wall and opposition parties will be a long time in their present position.
PM Harper ought to be smiling at this point in time.
11:54 PM on 03/20/2012
Brrrrr....getting shilly in here.
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
12:20 AM on 03/21/2012
Harper? Really?

Harper, Bush, and George Leo Strauss http://goo.gl/Yy9w

The Tyee/Suspicious calls http://goo.gl/LcAFj

Racknine “Adding final servers for the political super-weapon.” http://goo.gl/biFeU

Front Porch Pres in Fantino's office. http://goo.gl/89TwE

Del Mastro makes robocalls http://goo.gl/JC7e9

CBC reports:voter suppression traced to CPC http://goo.gl/FNKCO

Wikipedia/ArrowDebreu http://goo.gl/pLxWE

Robo-calls warrant ‘huge investigation,’ former Harper aide says http://goo.gl/yebjd

CPC CIMS database
http://tinyurl.com/76ggfly
http://tinyurl.com/84fj9vc
http://tinyurl.com/73s9bk4

Oh yeah …

“Here's the article on the CPC's voter suppression training. http://goo.gl/837yI

It is the nature of priveliged position that it develops its own political justification and often the economic and social doctrine that serves it best. John Kenneth Galbraith, 1996
georgee2
My Canada Includes Everyone
02:37 PM on 03/20/2012
And the Harris government was a thing of beauty??? What a crock from the Conservatives. The usual from J. Edger (where's my most wanted list) Kenny.
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
02:27 PM on 03/20/2012
Canadians should know what they're up aginst so in the national interest …

http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2005/11/29/HarperBush/ http://goo.gl/Yy9w

http://soundcloud.com/post-hypnotic-press/lawrence-martin-harperland-the-politics-of-control-ready-by-michael-puttonen

http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articles/the-man-behind-stephen-harper-tom-flanagan/

and some related to Harper/CPC.

The Tyee/Suspicious calls http://goo.gl/LcAFj

Racknine “Adding final servers for the political super-weapon.” http://goo.gl/biFeU

Front Porch Pres in Fantino's office. http://goo.gl/89TwE

Del Mastro makes robocalls http://goo.gl/JC7e9

CBC reports:voter suppression traced to CPC http://goo.gl/FNKCO

Wikipedia/ArrowDebreu http://goo.gl/pLxWE

Robo-calls warrant ‘huge investigation,’ former Harper aide says http://goo.gl/yebjd

CPC CIMS database
http://tinyurl.com/76ggfly
http://tinyurl.com/84fj9vc
http://tinyurl.com/73s9bk4

“Here's the article on the CPC's voter suppression training. http://goo.gl/837yI

yup. they lost the IN/OUT thing. http://goo.gl/LZAla
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Egotism is a weakness
03:39 PM on 03/20/2012
That's all well and good, but who's supposed to do better than the Conservatives right now? The listless and leaderless NDP, or the battered and beaten Liberals who still fight among their inner ranks?

Not a lot of choice on my end, less so since I live in a Conservative entrenched riding. Frankly I'll probably be throwing my vote at the Green party for all it's worth (Hint it's worth nothing thanks to First Past the Post)
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freeSpeakr
I stand on the shoulders of giants
10:30 PM on 03/20/2012
Better get out there and let people who Mr. Harper Really is and who he Really represents.

FYI
Harper, Bush, and Strauss http://goo.gl/Yy9w
“Here's the article on the CPC's voter suppression training. http://goo.gl/837yI
George with The Truth http://goo.gl/95x0c
http://soundcloud.com/post-hypnotic-press/lawrence-martin-harperland-the-politics-of-control-ready-by-michael-puttonen
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Irazu
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02:13 PM on 03/20/2012
I like the Tory quote: "It's not a perpetual campaign - it's a perpetual debate"

And yet, in the place where Canadian politicans go to "debate", the Tories don't care much for debate at all. Tune into question period sometime and see just how much the Tories like to "debate".

The fact is, the Tories are frightened of Bob Rae. Scared. Terrified. Otherwise, why spend millions on ads, millions that could be saved to help rig the next election?

So, think of this whenever a Tory supporter demeans or attacks Bob Rae: they attack because they are frightened, because they fear that Bob Rae, the leader of the THIRD party, will present a real threat to them come the next election. And he isn't even the official leader of the THIRD party!

Money is the one measure that conservatives value above all else - if they're spending money to attack Rae, you can be sure that there's a darn good reason for it. And it certainly isn't the "Public Good", because that's the thing they're trying to ignore in Parliament, as well.
09:18 PM on 03/21/2012
"Perpetual debate" only takes palce when both sides are allowed to speak :/
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10:28 AM on 04/29/2012
So just out of curiousity: do you think the conservatives are "terrified" of Bob Rae because they fear they will lose to him, or because they feel he would be the most horrifying thing to ever happen to the PM's office. Rae may not have been responsible for the Global downturn in 1990, but he is responsible for the problems we are STILL facing fiscally in Ontario. He threw good money after bad trying to make it look like he was doing a good job. People on welfare were making MORE money in most cases than people on minimum wage. People whose businesses were failing because of shoddy workmanship and/or fiscal mismanagement were being propped up by the government (OUR tax dollars at work!). Our children were being taken out of school 12 extra days a school year to "save money", despite teachers being salaried, and janitorial staff still being there (meaning there were no savings in teachers wages, no savings in electricity, just the loss of educational days and savings on the 2-4 hours of bussing). He is a model of mismanagement, both fiscally and managerically. The very fact that his party is infighting so much is a fairly clear indicator of how "great" a leader he is.
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01:21 PM on 03/20/2012
Bobby managed to grow a less than $1B deficit to $17B in four years - he planned to spend Ontario rich. He is depending on short memories to soon do the same for Canada. These ads will remind all Canadians of his legacy. Just because he has changed his colour from orange to red doesn't mean that he has changed his spots.
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01:53 PM on 03/20/2012
He is, Ontario RICH.....
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02:16 PM on 03/20/2012
If true, the expenditure of a lot of money on dirty attack ads is a big waste of money.

You should ask for some of your contributions back!
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02:30 PM on 03/20/2012
Irazu: Money well spent if it jogs the memories of Canadians or if it brings new information to some that weren't in Ontario at that time.
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01:02 PM on 03/20/2012
I don't think the metaphor he used was all that effective. Cause the way he phrased it makes me want to think "He freed Mandela and cause the Soviet Union to collapse? Really? That the Blue Jays winning the World Series was his doing? Huh?" It hurts my head, mostly because he didn't connect his metaphor to anything tangible on his end.

The economy certainly wouldn't be all his fault, but if he's going to list the positives of his run as Premier, he should... list his posistives... metaphorizing up world events that really has nothing to do with him on the other hand leaves me with nothing. Even with the economy thing not his fault, he could have stated cases of what he was doing to fix the problem.

Just my view on it, but I don't think he really hit back on the attack ad, so much as is on the ground flailing uncontrollably. I would think this would be a good opportunity to have the public learn a bit more about the man, but I learned nothing.

EDIT: I should also note that I have not bothered to watch the attack ad itself, but I have the suspicion that if I did I would learn more about Bob (and I'm pretty sure none of what I learned would be positive)
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02:19 PM on 03/20/2012
I'm sure that you've seen enough US-style attack ads to know that you can't "learn more" from them. The very nature of an attack ad is to replace what you "know" with "what they tell you".
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02:36 PM on 03/20/2012
Canada has much, much tougher legislation on defamation than in the USA. In the US you can get away with saying pretty much anything, the same isn't true for Canada. The false equivalency between US and Canadian politics is frankly a trap that the Liberals keep falling into.

In other words, I'm pretty sure whatever is contained in the ads are factually true; if they weren't the Liberals would be suing. Besides, when it comes to replacing what you know, with what they tell you; I'd argue the Liberals are far more guilty of that considering how much they tried to frame Harper as a danger to Canada. There's been consistently a lack of any substance from the Liberal message for years now, and that's reflected in the response to this attack ad: There's nothing.

I do my best to keep an open mind about these things, and I was looking for the Liberals to frame the situation in a better light than what the Conservatives are doing, but all I got was a metaphor that went no where.
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12:59 PM on 03/20/2012
Got to read this first, Mandela, Soviet Union, I guess he was dealing with President Regan,
Pope John, Gorbacev, and more.
WHAT a politician, what a brave man.
01:17 PM on 03/20/2012
I think he was saying he was no more responsible for the state of the economy than for Mr. Mandela's freedom or the collapse of the USSR. Meaning, he did not CAUSE what the Cons are accusing him of.
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02:02 PM on 03/20/2012
You missed the snark.
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11:51 AM on 03/20/2012
Bob should say " I was never elected by fraudulent means, how many Conservatives can honestly say the same thing?"
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Truth matters.
11:43 AM on 03/20/2012
" Kenney said Rae's record as Ontario premier was an unmitigated disaster."

Actually, by every economic measurement, Harper's record as Cdn PM has been much worse.