Ontario Budget 2012: McGuinty Says Freezing Welfare, Social Assistance Included In Tuesday's Budget

Mcguinty Ontario Budget Welfare Freeze

First Posted: 03/25/2012 3:12 pm Updated: 03/25/2012 4:54 pm

TORONTO - Ontario's cash-strapped Liberals are freezing welfare and delaying planned increases to the Ontario Child Benefit in Tuesday's budget to help slay a $16-billion deficit.

Social assistance, which includes Ontario Works and the Ontario Disability Support Program, will be frozen for a year, Premier Dalton McGuinty announced Sunday.

The child benefit was supposed to rise from the current $1,100 a year per child to $1,310 a year in July 2013. Instead, it will be increased more gradually — "in a more affordable way" — to $1,210 in 2013 and $1,310 in 2014, McGuinty said.

The one-year delay will save about $90 million next year, according to the government.

"Others would make different choices," McGuinty said, noting that the previous Progressive Conservative government cut welfare by 22 per cent.

"We are not prepared to balance this budget on the backs of families who may find themselves in difficult circumstances for the time being, or on the backs of our children."

But that's exactly what the minority Liberals are doing, both opposition parties said.

The New Democrats, who oppose the measures, wouldn't say whether it's a dealbreaker for them. NDP support for the budget is crucial for the minority Liberals to avoid an election, as the Progressive Conservatives have already signalled that they'll oppose the budget.

"We're going to have to really look at everything that this government is proposing and making that decision as a caucus," said New Democrat Michael Mantha.

"Basically, we want to see life being a little bit more affordable for everyday families, and this is going to make it that much harder for them to meet those bills at the end of the month."

McGuinty said he hopes the NDP will still support the budget, which will contain other measures that the third party will be able to support.

"This has been my toughest budget by far, because it confronts a deficit which we must necessarily eliminate over time for all the right reasons," he said.

If McGuinty isn't going to follow through with economist Don Drummond's advice to freeze the child benefit, he needs to put something else on the chopping block, which he hasn't done, said Tory finance critic Peter Shurman.

"If he's serious about actually wanting to attack the deficit, stop the drip, drip, drip, drip," Shurman said. "Stop sitting on the backs of people who are the least capable of defending themselves and man up."

On Friday, the Liberals announced plans to wind down the Ontario Northland Transportation Commission — a move that could affect hundreds of workers in the north — and sell eight government buildings to free up more cash.

They also shut down slot machines at racetracks in Fort Erie, Sarnia and Windsor, throwing 560 people out of work.

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TORONTO - Ontario's cash-strapped Liberals are freezing welfare and delaying planned increases to the Ontario Child Benefit in Tuesday's budget to help slay a $16-billion deficit.Social assistance, wh...
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04:32 PM on 03/27/2012
"The one-year delay will save about $90 million next year, according to the government."

Well, here's another 90 Million Dollar handout Mr. McGuinty could have saved Ontarians back in 2007.
http://www.mri.gov.on.ca/english/news/VCF111407.asp
Not only that, but the Ontario Government reduced corporations' capital tax altogether. I'm afraid Ontarians haven't enjoyed the same tax breaks, and have instead sustained the increases without complaint. This economic development plan is far from the only handout give to companies who've failed to produce the growth or jobs they were intended to produce. Cut assistance programs across the board if you like Mr. McGuinty, but the numbers don't lie as to where the largest handouts are truly being exchanged. The Canadian people aren't stupid, we know both Conservatives and Liberal leaders alike depend on Industries' large amounts of cash to launch your campaigns, I mean how could any political party afford television airtime otherwise? We get it, and we can accept it, what we can't accept, or won't accept, is for you to tell us that a hand full of disabled people are weighing down a financial system which is driven by and entirely weighed down by investors, and interest rates.
01:08 PM on 03/27/2012
Not to offend anybody trying to survive on social assistance... as far as I know there is a huge number of people abusing social assistance! You can find "advisors" who will help you to get on Welfare and stay on it for decades, they will teach you on what to say to Social Worker, how to present your apartment, even what kind of dress to ware during an interview... Honestly - everybody knows somebody who should not be on welfare!
I won't have any regrets to cut off ANY welfare for these kind of people.
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04:02 AM on 03/26/2012
Last time they froze welfare rates, which also affects the disabled who survive on ODSP, they gave themselves a large raise the week before Christmas, about $25,000 a year, 5 times what a single welfare recipient takes home regardless of where in the province they live. Poor dears said they couldn't make do on their salaries as it was so expensive to live in Toronto. Tell that the the people on welfare and ODSP who live in Toronto because that's where the hospitals they need are. The NDP voted against it; the Liberals and Conservatives for it. As far as I know, most NDP refused to take the raise and dontated the money to charity.
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11:23 PM on 03/25/2012
McGuinty has a plan for Ontario. Freeze or cut welfare, cut back on social assistance and give public sector employees and politicians a wage increase and a better pension plan.
10:25 PM on 03/25/2012
Canadians/Ontarians ALL need to get out and vote or the public sector employees will continue to carry enough voting power to vote in governments promising big things for them at the expense of everyone else. Why do you think there is nothing in the election platforms of a positive nature for joe average.....they don't want the poor and hard working class voting! Designed only to interest it's vote buying public sector....we are left out on purpose not by accident, but by design.
10:00 PM on 03/25/2012
We'll gladly pay police to arrest the poor, we'll build jails for the poor, we'll take the kids away from poor parents and provide for them at CAS, in a manner the parents evidently cannot. A what point will a cop and CAS worker be disgusted with the way the poor single mothers are raising their children in abject poverty and remove them? Failing to provide the necessities of life! At some point here welfare recipients basics will not sustain even the basics, but again we'll spend big bucks taking the kids away, and we'll pay foster parents 900/month but we would NEVER EVER consider giving that to someone on the system! Makes me ill. The kids end up in the jail system, and there you have it, an industry dependent taking advantage of poor Canadians who cannot defend against the unlimited budget of the state. Sad times for poor families ahead.
09:55 PM on 03/25/2012
Maybe had he not been pandering to public sector unions for their voting power we wouldn't have all this high priced gov't talent. After a premier has 2 terms and the gold pension secured....then he can get tough and get voted out. People who answer phones making 100k, cops heading quickly toward 200k, fire too: perhaps had he not paid these folks all so much he wouldn't have to bend the welfare folks over the barrel....again!.....Still!
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07:57 PM on 03/25/2012
Waste $billions, pander to unions, give all his own people raises, run Hydro thru the roof & on & on & on. Blame anyone else. Ban everything he can & destroy the horse racing industry. Run Ontario into financial ruin. Now cut social services, but keep ($1.5 Billion) junior kindergarden. Too amazed/confused to go on
01:01 PM on 03/27/2012
I agree with you 100%, but... how the hell McGuilty got elected agin, and again?
Nobody to blame but stupidity of Onatians who gave him a chance to get back into his office!
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07:20 PM on 03/27/2012
Cities... teacher & union buddies.
06:30 PM on 03/25/2012
As usual this comes on the backs of the less fortunate and destitute. How pathetic...meanwhile politicians, CEO's, athletes and everyone else at the top is playing cat and mouse with the vulnerable people of Canada.PATHETIC!! Let's cut some corners starting from the top down. Seems like it would be the appropriate thing to do instead of from the bottom up...this is common sense!!
05:16 PM on 03/25/2012
20% pay cut from MPP salaries would contribute fairly to balancing the budget don't you think Mr. McGuinty?
05:07 PM on 03/25/2012
Hey, "LetsKeepitSimple" .. Are you some kind of simplton yourself..? Just wondering since you THINK it's so "easy" living on OW or ODSP.
Not EVERYONE can "afford" to eat out every darn day and night! Or.. EVER.
Not EVERYONE can even "afford" a phone and cable. Though, a phone is pretty much a neccessity, for someone disabled, like me! Yeah, I have a "phone". However, is is so basic, (costs about $10.00 per month) has no "features", I can't "afford" them.. Cable..? Nope, can't afford it! I have to use an antenea and pray I get one good channel in when I am wanting to watch.
Your comment about living in "abject poverty", is spot on. Seriously, get over yourself and MOVE on.
FYI: Sounds to me like your "sister" is living in low income housing. They gear the rent toward your earnings. However, I am sure she has utilities too to pay for as well. So, that will eat into a good chunk of her money. Her ordering out every day, is not "typical" of any anyone receiving ODSP!! Why..? Cuz we can't afford it!!! Your sister's smokes..? Well, you can ONLY thank our great "GOVERNMENT" and health care system for THAT! Yes, they did a fine and splendid job to and for all those smokers out there. Grow up..
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05:00 PM on 03/25/2012
Our LIBERAL premier Mr. McGuinty, squandered all the money (grants for home improvement, wind power going nowhere, etc) and now WHAT?
OH, CASINOS bonanza.
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08:16 PM on 03/25/2012
Maybe we could forclose on those Toronto cricket fields he wrote the cheque for and then rent them back to those "non traditional immigrant" clubs he bribed with our tax money. Maybe he could write a book on the perils and pitfalls of using political cronies to set up an E-Health record system and sell that to smarter provinces, or, maybe he could just nationalize all those abandoned factories his excessive power rates have created and sell them for high end condos. I am sure there is a way for a skillfull politician to turn an advantage out of this.
04:29 PM on 03/25/2012
From a macroeconomic perspective, this is a bad move. There are those for whom a moral code is more important than is efficient policy and unfortunately this panders to that.
04:02 PM on 03/25/2012
Dont think it will be hard on my siste, she gets 747$ a month and has to pay $125 for her($1700 market value)apartment. Phone and cable and cigs and food.

She always tells me she is living in abject poverty, but she orders take out everyday. smokes and I couldnt afford to pay her (real) rent. Anyway she likes it enough to have been collecting since 1980
07:12 PM on 03/25/2012
if you think this is wrong what would be your solution ----would it work?
10:05 PM on 03/25/2012
People on welfare should have to do something, even if only sit in a waiting room 2 hours a week. At least would stop people who are living outside of Canada and/or those collecting in different cities and provinces. Also it would teach being on time, discipline and remove some sense of entitlement.