Danielle Smith: Climate Change Science 'Not Settled'

Posted: 04/16/2012 6:09 pm Updated: 04/17/2012 5:57 pm

EDMONTON - The woman leading a front-running party in Alberta's provincial election has cast doubt on the widely accepted scientific theory that human activity is a leading cause of global warming.

Wildrose Leader Danielle Smith made the comment in an online leaders debate organized by two Alberta newspapers.

"We have always said the science isn't settled and we need to continue to monitor the debate," said Smith in response to a direct question from a reader.

"We recognize the world is in a long-term transition away from hydrocarbon fuels. We believe the best way to reduce emissions is through consumer rebates for energy audits, microgeneration and home renovations, as well as broad-based tax breaks for investment in R&D for new environmental technologies."

A Wildrose official confirmed Smith's statement reflects a longtime party policy.

Smith has always been coy about whether she believes carbon dioxide emissions from human activity are altering the Earth's climate.

She declined to respond to Liberal Leader Raj Sherman's question: "Danielle, are you seriously denying climate change?"

But during the debate she said her party believes that not enough is known about climate change.

Progressive Conservative Leader Alison Redford was non-committal on the science.

"Climate change is a real issue on the international stage with respect to energy production, our reputation and ability to export."

But the Tory-led Alberta government has long officially accepted the science behind climate change, as has the federal government. They are joined by the rest of Canada's provincial and territorial governments, the U.S., Mexico, the European Union and the United Nations.

Most scientific bodies, including the Royal Societies of Canada and the U.K., as well as the American Association for the Advancement of Science, also accept that human activity is changing the Earth's climate.

A recent study in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences surveyed 1,372 papers on climate and found at least 97 per cent of the most active climate researchers supported the standard model.

Andrew Weaver, one of Canada's top climate modellers, said the science is firm.

"It's more than firm, it's as solid as a rock," Weaver said from Morocco, where he's helping draft the latest U.N. summary of climate research. "The scientific community has used the word unequivocal.

"There are thousands of scientists working on this problem and if there was an Achilles heel to it, one person would find it. This is lowest common-denominator rhetoric."

Alexander Wolfe, a paleoclimatologist at the University of Alberta, agrees.

He said his research has shown that past periods of glaciation or global warm-up is strongly linked to atmospheric carbon. As well, predictions made by climate models a decade ago that assumed humans were behind climate change have been largely confirmed by real-world data.

Those disputing the data, said Wolfe, tend to be less active in new research. They also tend to be from outside disciplines such as geology.

"The candidate is expressing naivete," said Wolfe. "It's a real problem and it should be acknowledged by any serious political candidate for the premiership."

Andrew Leach, professor of energy economics at the University of Alberta, said Smith's comments may be a way to get the province's environmental and economic issues on the campaign agenda, from where they have been largely absent.

"That's the discussion I'd like to see: 'Here's how my view of both the scientific realities and the global and national political realities feed in to why my policy works,' " he said.

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09:32 PM on 04/19/2012
She stands the chance of becoming premiere of the province that's home to the second largest oil reserve in the world — a position outmatched only by the Sultan of Saudia Arabia. Is it any surprise she rejects science that doesn't suit the interests of the oil industry?
10:50 AM on 04/18/2012
professor of environmental studies at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado at Boulder agrees with her
http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.ca/
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Robert Lee Harrington
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09:26 PM on 04/17/2012
"...When participants in the Brookings study said they believed in climate change, they were asked a follow-up question about what they believed to be the cause. Borick noted that about 75 % of participants said they believed that climate change was human-caused..."
09:30 PM on 04/17/2012
Consensus is not science. Most believed that the sun revolved around the earth. That didn't make it true.
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09:24 PM on 04/17/2012
More Americans now believe in global warming

February 29, 2012

"The newest study from the National Survey of American Public Opinion on Climate Change, which is a biannual survey taken since fall 2008 and organized by the Brookings Institute, shows that 62% of Americans now believe that climate change is occurring..."

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/29/local/la-me-gs-more-americans-now-believe-in-global-warming-20120229
10:53 AM on 04/18/2012
I dont put much weight on polls since the questions can drive the answer, anyway here is another, and I think later one
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/17/gallup-worries-about-the-environment-at-all-time-lows
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Henk Bos
08:48 PM on 04/17/2012
It is time that we as a rational and as a sane society, we need to
put this global warming hysteria and fraud in the grave yard of human "liberal" folly.

Now that the COP17 in Durban has run it's course and is history. There is almost universal consensus that Clinmate Change talks have slide off the precipice insanity and into oblivion.

Typical of the Climate Religion proponents are the journalist drones and propagandists who are claiming that most of the worlds population is irrational and suffering from dysfunctional neurosis, not to believe in their dogma.

Case in point is that these Global Warming fear mongers and proponents of Earth's demise scenerio, have claimed that 2500 IPCC related scientist agreed witht the 2007 UN IPCC report. It was discovered that the actual number of scientist who actually agreed withthe IPCC report was only 25.

The real consensus of who agrees with Climate Religion is 1 %. If Anthropogenic Global Warming is real, then how come 99% of scientist disagree.
09:31 PM on 04/17/2012
Excellent!!
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09:45 PM on 04/17/2012
I have been a AOL subscriber for 10 years and since the Huffington Post purchased AOL recently it's editorials and commentaries are just left of Pravda.
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Donnerskinde
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07:16 PM on 04/18/2012
Then why do 97% of studies show clear support for Anthropogenic climate change. The fact of the matter is that the science isn't at all disputed and that just like the religious right people like you are on the wrong side of history. So in order to counteract your increasing irrelevance, you spew more and more erroneous facts to support the lie you tell yourself.
I ask once again what is the downside in cleaning up our technology. Increased air quality, less environmental destruction and polution, a better furture for your kids, what is the downside.
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Henk Bos
07:46 PM on 04/18/2012
You are making a claim with out supportive evidence.
Example is Al Gore's infamous movie "Inconvienient Truth" was challenged on it's facts and data in the British High Court in 2007. The conclusion was by the High Court was propoganda, inacurrate information and sentimental mush. But Al Gore has made $ billions from the lemings that inhabit our communities.
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Jesse Wright
04:22 PM on 04/17/2012
My favourite/most enraging part about most christian conservatives (notice how I put Christian there - I don't want to offend all Conservatives) are skeptical about "unsettled" science but hold blind faith in the Bible...weird huh?
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Henk Bos
09:46 PM on 04/17/2012
So what do you believe in ? Must be weird huh!
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02:45 PM on 04/22/2012
It's not a case of believing in anything. It is a case of observing with certainty that there is a major problem and not being satisfied with the smug, self satisfied answers that seem to be flying around the room.
10:57 AM on 04/18/2012
Many of the warmers
are skeptical about the bible but hold blind faith in the Global Warming...weird huh?

I think it is that some people need a religion, something to believe in, and people being a varied bunch find all kinds of things, of course on the surface (no pun intended) Global Warming seems like a most noble cause.
I will even bet there are many religious bible believers who also believe in Global Warming, some people cant get too much religion
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03:32 PM on 04/17/2012
Lemme see. 28 here yesterday and the norm is 12, 5 weeks of snowmobiling this year and the norm is 11, no ice on the major rivers this winter and ice out is usually mid April, Fields harrowed and planted already and the norm is early to mid May, Gee, doesn't look like the climate is changing to me either Danielle. IT ALREADY HAS DUMMY!
08:40 PM on 04/17/2012
And Europe had an unusually cold winter. What's your point? Weather is not climate.
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08:58 AM on 04/18/2012
The prevailing conditions here have been in effect for over a decade with each winter about a week shorter on average and winter temperatures slightly warmer. Winter here 20 years ago started with the first major snow in early dec. Now we are lucky if it comes before new years. We had snow until late march, now late Feb. Ice formed in Dec and left mid April, now it may not form at all and if it does it is gone by mid to late march. Seasonal temperatures are .5 to 1.5 C above traditional norms and major summer storms now are more frequent and are stronger. Birds that were rare here are now common, migrating species arrive a month earlier and leave a month later. Funny how weather alone has caused all this eh?
11:00 AM on 04/18/2012
The jet stream moved north this year, making it warmer in Cont USA and colder in Europe.

FWIW, looks like glaciers increasing and sea levels dropping, guess all those folks can start moving back to the Maldaves(hope they give back the $500million they got for the 1 inch a decade sealevel drop)
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/18/ice-capades-some-himalayan-glaciers-growing-study-suggests-a-negative-sea-level-rise-adjustment/#more-61552
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01:01 PM on 04/18/2012
I once believed that global climate change was a natural cycle and we had little effect on it. Sorry, not any longer. When you live your life outdoors like I do,, you see the changes year over year and over the last 20 it has changed dramaticaly. No one in their right mind can deny the visible changes taking place right before our eyes unless that person lives in a city or is blind. Are we doing it? I don't know but it is happening and it is happening quickly in our area. You also might consider that this whole climate shift was coincidental in timing with the warnings about cutting down the rain forests. They were probably the second largest weather maker next to the oceans and they have been decimated over the last 40 years. That could be the deciding factor which imbalances traditional climate models but regardless, the times they are a changing.
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02:05 AM on 04/19/2012
WUWT is hardly a peer reviewed journal but even then you obviously didn't read the article you posted the link to. It in fact states that only a very small part of the Himalaya's glaciers seem to be increasing in size while the rest are decreasing albeit at a slower rate than predicted. Nice try though. Sea levels are not dropping either but are rising at a rate of approximately 0.04 mm per annum but keep spreading the bovine excrement
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12:54 PM on 04/17/2012
Just when we need real leadership on dealing with the pollution coming from the oilsands and this is what we get.

It would be really funny if they split the conservative vote, the NDP took Edmonton and the Liberals took Calgary and we had an NDP/Liberal minority government.

They would be spitting out their chew from Three Hills to Cold Lake.
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12:22 PM on 04/17/2012
Hey Robbie Anders you sleepy puppy you... yes you are!!

Be a lamby pie and pry my poodle off your leg long enough to get that cranky old turducken Link Byfield to do some conscience courting and then toss a few more gays in the lake of fire k?

And Tommy can you please get Ezra to send another news-majiggy out about what an icky elite floppy thing Alison is? Just stick in "she throws like a girl" too... that's a dear!

I sure wish she liked Alberta enough to not change it like me!!

By the way find out from Ezra should I say all sciencey stuff is unsettling? Just climate science? Oh I see just for now. Gotcha.

Jeez not knowing better than they and them do, is fun and easy too!

Rob I thought I told you to stop it with my puppy... all the excitement will make him shed!!
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12:34 PM on 04/17/2012
What a weird rant...
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12:54 PM on 04/17/2012
Not as weird as the guys in Danielle's war room or their plans but thanks for eyeball.
11:27 AM on 04/17/2012
Conservatives know what they know because they know. They don't need facts, they know.
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12:36 PM on 04/17/2012
They never met an inconvenient fact that they couldn't pay someone to dispute. With these folks there's no big lie, just a million medium sized and an army of dunces to repeat them at the behest of the detestables like SUN and FOX.
11:16 AM on 04/17/2012
When our political leaders deny science when it's convenient for them, we're all in trouble.
08:41 PM on 04/17/2012
Consensus is not science. Most scientists usded to believe the earth was the center of the universe. It only took one scientist to be right.
09:53 PM on 04/17/2012
Any legitimate scientific claim is falsifiable. When a hypothesis is validated through experiment, it becomes a theory, but this is only good until a better explanation comes along. This isn't the same as saying "we don't really know anything because it could become disproven some day".

There's a strong likelihood that our current climate models will be refined with time, but the basic assumption that we're rapidly accelerating baseline climate change by releasing greenhouse gases into the atmosphere has been validated by the scientific community again and again.
11:11 AM on 04/17/2012
So some still believe that climate change is just a natural cycle , that it's just a coincidence that the earth is warming just after the human race has spewed tons of Co2 into the atmosphere . Right or wrong the only problem that doesn't seem to be looked at is that in the past there was double the amount of forest cover . We have cut down over half the worlds forests . And what do forest do, they remove Co2 from the atmosphere . We are in trouble and unless we all put forth effort to do something , anything , our children and grandchildren will pay the price .
08:43 PM on 04/17/2012
The earth used to be warmer, before " the human race has spewed tons of Co2 into the atmosphere.
08:34 AM on 04/18/2012
There may have been a natural release of Co2 in the past raising temperatures , but there was also twice as much forest cover to lower the Co2 and therefore lower temperatures . Good luck today with that . A natural release of Co2 today like there may have been in the past with the addition of what we have released and the forests that we have removed . Well something to consider . As long as there are many of us out there with " the earth used to be warmer attitude " not much will be done about it .
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07:26 PM on 04/18/2012
Except for the ice ages, more of the inhabitable land used to be warmer, back when it was all 1 big continent and prior to the ice ages yes indeed, however the globe as a whole was cooler. 2nd the ice ages certainly were not a wamer period. 3rd the average temperature changes used to occur over cycles of 10's of thousands of years, now its hundreds. So please stop making things up.
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10:50 AM on 04/17/2012
Why can't a conservative in Canada be a rational, reasonable, person with intellect who looks at the facts and merely takes a different political bent on them than a liberal. Why must the current crop of conservatives fashion themselves after the numnuts in the US who deny reality to advance a policy that the corporation is king and that any economic effects always flow down, and so the government should never do anything to restrain corporate behaviour.

There used to be rational conservatives in Canada. Where have they all gone?
12:18 PM on 04/17/2012
They are out there. Unfortunately they are not active in party politics. In Alberta where there are no pensions for MLA's it is difficult to recruit people to enter into politics. Also political parties are now forced to be so homogenous that we no longer have any discourse within the party regarding differing views. Also political parties are seemingly forced to be the pawns of interest groups because of the money needed to fight an election campaign. Individuals are not contributing to the political parties the way they did 30 years ago. As an Albertan I can say the some of the people getting nominated to as conservative candidates have not been the "Party's" choice but an interest group that swarmed the nomination meeting. Obviously in a democracy this is permitted. Unfortunately the rational, reasonable , intelligent conservatives you are searching for have not organized themselves behind a like minded candidate. It is my belief that it will get worse before it gets better at least on the provincial level in Alberta, but don't feel smug Canada you share the responsibility for Ottawa.
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03:43 PM on 04/17/2012
Absolutely right and it is not only Alberta or just the Conservatives. Special interest and corporate groups have invested in obtaining influence in all 3 major parties and a lot of voters have become disenchanted with all of them. Hence the 40% who no longer give a damn. I suspect that next election it will move up to 43 or 45% because there is no one left who truly represents the traditional and reasonble middle of the road compromise that allowed this country to function prior to the Trudeau era. As for the last reasonable Conservative, we sent him to purgatory years and years ago. His name was Robert Stanfield and we found him too boring. God hindsight is 20/20 and brutal eh?
10:50 AM on 04/17/2012
Regardless of whose science is right or wrong wouldn't it be rational to err on the side of caution and reduce green house gases. Any conservative should be able to agree with that opinion one would think.
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05:17 PM on 04/17/2012
I hear you.

Somehow, the idea that, yeah, maybe we could put some of the "Heritage Fund" into creating cutting edge innovation in alternative energy and simultaneously create a manufacturing base that would ensure jobs into the next couple of generations seems just too difficult for Albertans to consider.

I don't think their children are going to thank them for handing off a miniscule, government-controlled bank balance that will be spent in a week, in exchange for their economic futures, but hey - they (WR and PC voters both) are probably assuming they'll all be dead and buried (or living in luxury in Beijing) by the time the reckoning comes due.

Depressingly enough for them, it appears that climate change is accelerating exponentially, and they quite likely will still be here when their kids decide to hold them to account.
08:46 PM on 04/17/2012
It's too expensive. I'm considered middle class and I couldn't afford solar panels. I looked at geothermal energy, but, again, I couldn't afford it.
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10:45 AM on 04/17/2012
The difference between skeptics and realists when it comes to global warming:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticsvRealistsv3.gif